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- MrTKS17
No it isnt you waited me to come and by the way i was lapping you and when i was next to, you desided to crash in me and take me out why??? Any way we had red flag....
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Based on my regretful experience with Toshost yesterday, I would almost put money down that SniperRed's assertions are 100% correct....
Now I don't have a problem with people who dont speak English, heck alot of the people I've raced with over the years are none native English speakers. For me it is absolutely no excuse for behavior, your behavior and your language is not connected.
By the way I am still not convinced that this "series" is not an elaborate hoax or "prank" designed to troll people into attempting to join so they can be kicked out, verbally abused, penalized to no end, or whatever else the pranksters want to do to the poor people who stumble across this thread.
Now I don't have a problem with people who dont speak English, heck alot of the people I've raced with over the years are none native English speakers. For me it is absolutely no excuse for behavior, your behavior and your language is not connected.
By the way I am still not convinced that this "series" is not an elaborate hoax or "prank" designed to troll people into attempting to join so they can be kicked out, verbally abused, penalized to no end, or whatever else the pranksters want to do to the poor people who stumble across this thread.
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You'd lose a bit of money then. Just to make it clear: Yes what happened to you and Scorpio yesterday with the kicking was not cool but Toshost said he got completely confused. I don't see any ill intent.
Also Sniper has a history of blowing his fuse when things don't go his way. This is not the first time he crashed deliberately into people during a race. So he certainly is not some misunderstood gentle flower he tries to portray himself as.
You surely can't be serious.
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- MrTKS17
i can't tell you to trust me if you don't want @pyrates can only say. This series is not a prank i was just confused because i was watching you here on the comment section and you didn't write your PSN and i didn't know that this was you again sorry! I hope i will do better job for Spa thank you!
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In the text I clearly stated my game is bugged could you restart this was before anyone had completed a lap so I.wasn't being an inconvenience. I was third in qualifying (faster than toshost) so it benefit him greatly to not have me race.
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You said your instruments were bugged. That you couldn't see cars was just an excuse that you used after you crashed into Toshost.
Should have the race been restarted after your first message? Yeah, probably would have been the better decision. But it wasn't and after that first lap or 2 you knew it wouldn't. So you then went ahead with spamming the chat to make the race unpleasant for everybody else. Or did you forget the constant messages that went on for about 10 laps? The freaking chat box was displayed almost all the time for 10 laps. I'd call that an inconvenience. In fact the only time when you weren't spamming was about a minute or so before the crash when what I assume was you positioning yourself to take out Toshost.
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Have you yourself ever experienced this glitch? You have no reason or evidence to suggest that I am lying. Toshost's first reaction was to accuse me of lying. This whole thread has been a car crash before the first race we have had multiple incidents
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The instrument glitch I can understand. Might have been really the case. The crash not. That was deliberate to get back at Toshost for not restarting the race. And yes based on your history I have reason to believe that the crash was deliberate. If you want I can remind you of the history.
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The only person here that can bring up my history is mini stiggy he knows what happened that day and he also knows how much I've changed. You did not see the incident and Toshost's recent history (just look through this thread to refresh your mind) is worse than mine. You accuse me of lying because you dislike me. EDIT: can I also remind you there are no extra points for agreeing with the series owner.
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- CodDemon101
@SniperRed3 he does not dislike you, when he thinks points aren't valid he will budge in giving his opinion and experience trying to bring peace to the community
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I'm doing this to inform the community about my experience and sadly many many other people's bad experiences within this series.
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Oh I know what happened, too. I wasn't there but I know the incidents. And I disagree, being disorganized is not worse then deliberately being destructive.
I don't dislike you. Never did. I'm however suspicious when it comes to your on track behaviour for obvious reasons.
I'm defending Toshost because people are coming down on him for mistakes he made even when he apologizes and explains. I'm also trying to shed light on what you post about what happened as they are half-truths at best.
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You are not. By many others you mean Rich and Scorpio who were kicked last night by mistake? As already said, very unfortunate situation and Toshost apologized for it.
Last night the words you chose in the lobby were also a bit different, weren't they? Scorpio came back into the lobby saying that he will not race anymore as he was angry about the kick and that he will rather spend his time watching soccer. Fair enough. You then responded by calling him a fag and ranting about how stupid soccer is.
So please do everybody a favour and stop pretending you are the good guy here.
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You state that my posts were half truths at.best then claim you weren't there clearly to determine that my posts were "half truths" you must have received a recollection of events from toshost. You are so confident that his story is the truth you dismiss everything that states otherwise what if I told you that toshost didn't restart when I stated I had technical difficulties so as to.gain an advantage but several laps on in becketts he crashed into me thus losing the advantage he had gained so he restarted for his own benefit.
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When Scorpio said on chat he was going to watch football there was no mention of being kicked from the lobby I then preceded to take the. 🤬 out of him jokingly. Saying go watched the overpaid ponces kick about a ball at the risk of tearing a muscle.
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- CodDemon101
Say that to more than a billion people who resect the sport
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So you jokingly call people fags? Good to know. Quite frankly would that have happened in my lobby you would have been kicked at that point already.
I'm willing to accept your instruments issue which probably should have resulted in a restart - not the crash however. I base my suspicion of the crash on the following:
1) The point at which the crash occurred when there was suddenly chat silence before the crash from you as you were probably busy preparing your move. Except for that time you were constantly using the chat.
2) You suddenly claiming to see no cars after you crashed him while you didn't mention not being able to see cars the whole time before that. Certainly you had plenty of opportunity to mention it seeing how busy you were typing. You only mentioned you had instrument issues at the beginning.
3) Jam confirmed that he saw you crash deliberately into Toshost and said that in the lobby
4) Your history of deciding to ruin everyones race when you have a bad race yourself.
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I never jokingly called anyone a F**
As I clearly said my insuruments/HUD was off I could see no people on the list, thus no cars I don't know how I could plot a maneuver when I didn't know who was where or even if toshost was on track or not. I stated in the chat I couldn't see any cars.
Jam also was allowed after qualifying to change his horsepower to higher than specified in the regulations another failure from toshost EDIT: You also said this about my performance in the only league I've ever raced you in "In fact there is absolutely nothing wrong with your behaviour in the GT3 series, mate."
As I clearly said my insuruments/HUD was off I could see no people on the list, thus no cars I don't know how I could plot a maneuver when I didn't know who was where or even if toshost was on track or not. I stated in the chat I couldn't see any cars.
Jam also was allowed after qualifying to change his horsepower to higher than specified in the regulations another failure from toshost EDIT: You also said this about my performance in the only league I've ever raced you in "In fact there is absolutely nothing wrong with your behaviour in the GT3 series, mate."
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You did call him that, though. You even spaced it "fa g" in the chat to bypass the swear filter. Do you say you didn't?
Untrue. You claimed you had no instruments. You never claimed you couldn't see cars until you caused the crash.
False. He stayed at 480 as specified in OP. I don't know what that would have to do with him seeing you crash into Toshost either.
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At the end of the day Toshost didn't restart a race when he wasn't at a disadvantage, but then proceeded to restart when he was disadvantaged. This shows host bias. He then began to hurl verbal abuse at me. After qualifying jam was instructed to raise his Bhp to 500 by toshost a clear example of fair racing, not. The fact there was no specification check before the race meant that a gt car could quite easliy get away with 558 bhp.
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Nice way to avoid my question about calling him a f**.
Toshost should have restarted the race, yes. But he had to restart it when he did to remove you from the lobby after your actions. It would have been a risk to leave you in the lobby after what you did.
Running in GT3 myself I made sure to check the others specs before the start and everything was correct. This is an argument you now pull to distract from the fact that you were seen by a GT driver doing what I accuse you of.
I don't think there is any sense in discussing the matter further as you will just avoid my points by introducing distracting arguments.
I will also push for banning you from GTWC season 2 based on the events that took place yesterday and the events from WGTC season 1 (log below). We cannot risk you blowing a fuse again in races with full damage.
SniperRed3 has just been given a 2 year FGTA ban due to his behavior at last night's WGTC race, to put it into perspective:
SniperRed3 incident list:
Please can all stewards review and respond with their recommendation
Incident: 1
Lap: 8
Effected driver: TK
Offences: Double move on straight, avoidable contact, Dangerous and Malicious driving
Blocking on pit straight (double move), then what appears to be a brake test - Caused TK damage.
Blocks again - Exit T2
Incident: 2
Lap: 16/17
Effected driver(s): merlin
Offence(s): Ignoring blue flags
Clearly in the middle of the track from T8 Lap 16, merlin has to force a pass into T2 lap 17. After he appears not to give up and attempt to set up a pass, although no chance.
Incident: 3
Lap: 18
Effected driver(s): roberteOffence(s): Ignoring blue flags, forcing a car off track, Dangerous and Malicious driving
He make a small mistake out of T4, roberte is coming up to lap him and is given a good run at him on the straight, Sniper then moves across on roberte forcing him off track. Sniper then continues to block roberte from lapping him all the way until lap 19, T5.
Incident: 4
Lap: 24
Effected driver(s): Nifty
Offence(s): Ignoring blue flags
Nifty is behind, sniper does not move out the way, nifty then goes off trying not to hit him resulting in damage for nifty.
Incident: 5
Lap: 25
Effected driver(s): Nifty
Offence(s): Ignoring blue flags, avoidable contact
Nifty caught him back up very quickly and had to force his way past, having achieved this Sniper then tries to regain the position back forcing nifty wide and off track.
Incident: 6
Lap: 26
Effected driver(s): Nifty (still)
Offence(s): Avoidable contact
Runs wide into T2, rejoins track straight into the side of Nifty.
Incident: 7
Lap: 27
Effected driver(s): Glen
Offence(s): Ignoring blue flags, avoidable contact
Although Glen managed to squeeze past without contact, Sniper did not give enough room, and then to top it off didn't brake in time for the last corner and made contact with Glen, resulting in Glen getting right rear damage and having to pit.
Incident: 8
Lap: 29
Effected driver(s): GlenOffence(s): Avoidable Contact, Dangerous and Malicious driving
Final turn, Glen has just lapped him again, Sniper doesn't brake at all and contacts Glen, luck Glen got away with it with just a slightly wider line than usual, how the F 🤬
(just comes out the pit lane and drives straight into the wall ahead, then goes to the inside of T1 and seems to leave the car unattended rolling around on the grass
)
Incident: 9
Lap: 30
Effected driver(s): Milan
Offence(s): Avoidable Contact
T3, Milan passes, Sniper seems to turn into the side of Milan.
Incident: 10
Lap: 30
Effected driver(s): TKOffence(s): Weaving on a straight, Ignoring blue flags, Forcing a car off track, Dangerous and Malicious driving
From T4 he starts to weave on the straight so TK could not pass, he then stopped, so TK proceeded past, Sniper the forces TK off track resulting in a spin. He then appears to be waiting (possibly for TK), spins and ends up on the apex of T7 as TK arrived there, TK had to go off to avoid him, although this in itself is does not seem malicious, I think had he have not spun then he would have tried to take TK out.
Incident: 11
Lap: 31
Effected driver(s): Glen
Offence(s):Ignoring blue flags
Glen has to force a pass around the outside of T2, Sniper still tries to defend his position.
Incident: 12
Lap: 32
Effected driver(s): MilanOffence(s): Ignoring blue flags, Blocking, Weaving on a straight,Dangerous driving
Sniper drives from T2 to T4 in 1st and 2nd gear, when Milan turns up, Sniper starts weaving around to stop Milan from passing, this actually results in Sniper going a very long way off track as he doesn't turn in for T4.
Incident: 13
Lap: 33
Effected driver(s): Nifty, Glen
Offence(s): Parking on track, Dangerous and Malicious driving
Sniper 1st stops his car dead in the final turn, then when Nifty and Glen get to him he starts to move to be in an awkward position on the track.
(Lap 34 Parks on inside of T1 then leaves the car rolling around again)
Incident: 14
Lap: 34
Effected driver(s): Glen, Nifty, Caine, TK, Me
Offence(s): Dangerous and Malicious driving
Once he starts to move again he proceeds to slowly drive around the track just simply getting in the way. He Just gets in Glen's and Nifty's way, seems to attempt to cut across the track to take Caine out, waits for TK and attempts to take him out, comes close to taking me out.
Incident: 15
Lap: 35
Effected driver(s): Milan
Offence(s): Dangerous driving, Malicious Driving
He appears to attempt to cross the track to take Milan out, fortunately in this instance he misses.
Incident: 16
Lap: 36
Effected driver(s): Stiggy, TK
Offence(s): Ignoring blue flags, Dangerous and Malicious driving,
1st off he block his own team mate and then as TK comes past he drives straight toward him, again fortunately on this occasion, he missed.
Incident: 17
Lap: 36
Effected driver(s): N/A, no one effected but target was TK
Offence(s): Dangerous and Malicious Driving
Into the final turn he didn't brake an tried to take TK out, again FAIL (Incident reported by TK), he then returned to the pits cutting straight across merlins path.
Incident: 18
Lap: 37
Effected driver(s): Caine
Offence(s): Dangerous Driving, Blocking
He is just bored now I think and trying to take people out, he is not driving at full throttle and then when a car comes close, he is trying to cause an accident and destroy peoples races
1st up this lap Caine, T5, ends up running wide due to Sniper being in the way.
Incident: 19
Lap: 39
Effected driver(s): TK
Offence(s): Blocking,
T2 he moves into TK's way as TK wants to lap him, he the brakes hard and takes the corner slower to slow TK down. He then tries to keep up with TK, comes off trying and then continues to drive slowly around the just generally getting in the way.
Incident: 20
Lap: 41
Effected driver(s): Stiggy, Me
Offence(s): Ignoring blue flags
He just stays right in the way of us fighting for the lead of the race, 1st in Stiggys way, I spot the opportunity and Sniper moves in my way to block us both from him. (continuing at a very slow speed still)
(Lap 41, pulls the handbrake on pit straight)
Incident: 21
Lap: 42
Effected driver(s): Me, stiggy
Offence(s): Dangerous rejoin, Avoidable contact, Ignoring blue flags
On the exit of T2 Sniper goes off track, when he rejoins the track he then continues to cross the track into my path in a close battle for the lead and makes contact with me, resulting in damage for me. He then continues on his path further and blocks Stiggy in T3.
Incident: 22
Lap: 42/43
Effected driver(s): TK (at this point has taken the AM lead, not sure if during pit strategy)
Offence(s): Dangerous and Malicious Driving
TK hesitates to pass after the incidents before, it seems Sniper waits for TK to make his move and then simply rams him off the track. He then follows TK off the track and continues to attempt to push TK to keep him off the track. He then follows TK to the pits and waits on track for TK to exit the pits.
He then pitted, come back out and retired his car on the exit of T1.
Track limits:
Lap 5, Pit entry
Lap 9, Pit exit (marginal)
Lap 13, T6
Lap 16, T6
Lap 18, T6
Lap 22, pit exit.
Lap 23, T6 & 7
Lap 26 - Unsafe pit entry
Lap 34, T6
Lap 34, pit entry
Lap 35, pit exit
Lap 36, pit entry
Add to that:
Using the chat box during the race x2 (even after being told not to by Stiggy)
Parking on Track.I know I asked for your opinion at the top, but after now having seen the footage on this occasion I will be using my power as the race director to Give him a 2 year ban.
I fairly sure you will all agree anyway, but, I will not have this kind of behavior on my track.
In my opinion his behavior drastically changed the final outcome of both the PRO race and the 2 car AM race.
On this occasion I would recommend this covers all FGTA events.
He has been messaged and told of the situation, his ban coveres all FGTA series, please take his name off the OP and offer his space to another driver
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- jakarta
- Y_bear_
Guys...we have better things to do...in few hours i am going to compare car spec that litchi use in fia gt world champ'ship with what we have in op...
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- Nottingham
This FGTA incident happened before the start of GT3 Season 2 they already know about this and If you feel the need to inform GTWC (what ever that is) that I suffered a game breaking glitch and politely asked for a restart. Love to see how you spin that one mate!
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That is not the issue. The crash is. I won't need to spin anything.
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- Nottingham
Ahh yes the crash. The one where I was driving on the right side of becketts slowly and I was hit from the left by toshost. Edit: Btw what is GTWC?
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- MrTKS17
What what are you talking about you hit me if you countinue with this you dont need to drive here.....
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Hahaha, nope you were definetly on the racing line. I almost ran into you twice and I don't think I was the only one. Sucks that you had that glitch, we could've had a tighter battle for LMP1 Class.
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- jakarta
- Y_bear_
Yo tosh...this is what i found after comparing our car spec at the op with litchi's
Our car spec:
RJN : 599 pp
SLS GT3 : 601 pp
Corvette c6 : 562
Litchi's car spec:
RJN : 604
SLS GT3 : 597
Corvette c6 : 569
I think we need to review our car spec...
Our car spec:
RJN : 599 pp
SLS GT3 : 601 pp
Corvette c6 : 562
Litchi's car spec:
RJN : 604
SLS GT3 : 597
Corvette c6 : 569
I think we need to review our car spec...
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- MrTKS17
Yes leave this to mee please now am talking about this and other important things with @CodDemon101
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