Ford Blames US Government for V8 Discontinuation

[Slash]

Ford is saying that V8's are on their last legs and they are doing everything they can to save the Mustang's engine, but the very near future is that they'll be all gone. And their words: "You can thank the government for that."

http://horsepowerkings.com/sources-ford-to-discontinue-v8-engines-in-mustang-f150-after-2018/

 

[Joel]

Thanks Obama.

 

[Adamgp]

Looks like horsepowerkings made that rumor up. According to Ford, the V8 will live on.

http://www.carscoops.com/2015/01/ford-official-we-will-not-drop-v8-from.html

 

[Legro]

You can thank the government for that.

This could mean any government. EU government, Egyptian government, North Korean government, who knows?

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Poorly written article is obviously fake.

That site is awful.

 

[Liquid]

This could mean any government. EU government, Egyptian government, North Korean government, who knows?

bt ferd is amerikun

dey takin r v8 tamayta jews away from us

 

[Sanji Himura]

Yeah, there is no way that Ford will discontinue the V8, especially when there are V12 engines out there. It is the only way they could remain competitive against Chevy and their LS series engines.

 

[Dennisch]

I think the first step will be downsizing and turbocharging before they completely dissappear.

 

[GTPorsche]

Only Ford.... right... ok... that's believable...

 

[ClydeYellow]

So, let me get this straight: Ford wants to keep using the V8 design, but the EPA wants to make sure they don't, for the evulz? What are those damn environmentalist wackos going to do next, ban kittens?

Yeah, someone wrapped their tinfoil too tight and is having problems getting blood to the brain. The number of cylinders of an engine has little to do with its emissions - and the 5.0 V8 in the S550 Mustang is sitting comfortably in the Euro 6 standards without using direct injection. Besides, there's plenty of room for downsizing should it come to that.

As for the Ford GT, my guess is that they had that DP engine just lying around, and as it happens, it would also make their car fit to a tee within GT3 rules, so... I'd say it has little to do with environmental regulations and a lot to do with the fact that the old Ford GT was basically useless as race car, and Ford may be willing to amend that this time around.

 

[GTPorsche]

As for the Ford GT, my guess is that they had that DP engine just lying around, and as it happens, it would also make their car fit to a tee within GT3 rules, so... I'd say it has little to do with environmental regulations and a lot to do with the fact that the old Ford GT was basically useless as race car, and Ford may be willing to amend that this time around.

Bingo. Regulations for a turbocharged engine limit it to 4.0L and that 3.5L engine already in use was perfect for it as that saves them the R&D of having to develop an engine that sits exactly on the regulation limits.

 

[Rubencho]

Bingo. Regulations for a turbocharged engine limit it to 4.0L and that 3.5L engine already in use was perfect for it as that saves them the R&D of having to develop an engine that sits exactly on the regulation limits.

that and maybe in the future offer a N/A V8 in the roost

 

[GTPorsche]

that and maybe in the future offer a N/A V8 in the roost

Unlikely.

 

[ClydeYellow]

that and maybe in the future offer a N/A V8 in the roost

Not likely, and in all probability, not possible. Cars such as the new GT are built around the engine - it's a snug fit, and a V8 would require an extensive redesign of the car's subframes, not to mention the change in driving dynamics such a change would bring. Unless you can find a V8 that's as long and weights as much as the Ecoboost V6, in which case, it would just be a major PITA.

 

[mustafur]

The V8 can continue easily anyway, just downsize them to 3L V8s with Bolt ons, the days of 5+ Litre V8s are going to be numbered though(Unless they are mated to a Hybrid system like the 918).

 

[FoRiZon]

Poorly written article is obviously fake.

That site is awful.

So the daily mail of automobiles?

Also Top Gear was also said years ago that the Ford wont even apply the more sophisticated suspension system for cost cutting on a Mustang.

So, money? Os this why we got a V6 Ford GT?

 

[mustafur]

So the daily mail of automobiles?

Also Top Gear was also said years ago that the Ford wont even apply the more sophisticated suspension system for cost cutting on a Mustang.

So, money? Os this why we got a V6 Ford GT?

That is IRS they are talking about, which the current Mustang has.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Yeah, there is no way that Ford will discontinue the V8, especially when there are V12 engines out there. It is the only way they could remain competitive against Chevy and their LS series engines.

What LS series? You mean LT . LS is yesterday's news

 

[McLaren]

Poorly written article is obviously fake.

That site is awful.

They got 1 thing right, even if it is just me.

The lack of a V8 is concerning, especially when discussing such a high profile halo car as the new Ford GT. After all, the entire history of this car revolves around it’s V8 powerplant. Some would argue that it’s the heart and soul of the Ford GT/GT40 legacy, and we would agree.

 

[05XR8]

Remember when this was to keep the Mustang alive?

Remember when this was a threat to end the V8 Mustang?

Remember when this was supposed to replace the Mustang?

No matter what the future may be, Ford wont throw away this history

 

[05XR8]

Delete

 

[Grandea GTR]

Remember when this was to keep the Mustang alive?

Remember when this was a threat to end the V8 Mustang?

Remember when this was supposed to replace the Mustang?

No matter what the future may be, Ford wont throw away this history

It seems that you posted the same thing twice

 

[eran0004]

Ford is saying that V8's are on their last legs and they are doing everything they can to save the Mustang's engine, but the very near future is that they'll be all gone. And their words: "You can thank the government for that."

http://horsepowerkings.com/sources-ford-to-discontinue-v8-engines-in-mustang-f150-after-2018/

Actually Ford isn't saying that. The site claims that there is a source within Ford, not that he/she is speaking on behalf of Ford. Ford is denying the report.

Isn't it odd by the way that this representative whom they claimed to have spoken with said "Gov't" instead of government? There's also a parenthesis in the quote "(near) future", which also belongs to the written language rather than the spoken. Or is the transcript just poorly written?

 

[homeforsummer]

They got 1 thing right, even if it is just me.

The lack of a V8 is concerning, especially when discussing such a high profile halo car as the new Ford GT. After all, the entire history of this car revolves around it’s V8 powerplant. Some would argue that it’s the heart and soul of the Ford GT/GT40 legacy, and we would agree.

I don't really agree.

The entire legacy of the car revolves around its V8? Really?

That seems like hyperbole to me... that the GT's history revolves around its engine and doesn't revolve around its success at Le Mans? It doesn't revolve around its Lola-designed chassis or its styling or kicking Ferrari's ass for several years in the 1960s? I'd say all of that could have been done with more or less any engine - this was a time when pretty much any layout went - flat, vee and inline engines of more or less any cylinder count.

I'd say the V8 is purely incidental to the GT's status. The new engine, on the other hand, is entirely appropriate to the car's mantra too - the GT is no longer a retro pastiche like the previous car was (a car in which the exterior and interior styling were as good as identical to the original) so has no need to hark back to past glories. The GT name is much, much more than just the engine.

Equally, I don't see the V8 disappearing any time soon. If that's what Ford is saying then I worry for them, as it's tantamount to admitting they don't have the capability to make it work in any engineering capacity.

 

[Clark]

I can agree about the Mustang really needing a V8, but as @homeforsummer The GT40 was a race car and it only had a V8 as that was the best engine for the rules.

If it's going to be a race car why use something that won't be the best for the rule set given. If you want a Ford GT with a V8 they made plenty of them last time around.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

The original GT used a modified version of Ford's standard midsize/fullsize passenger car (and truck) engine. At the time, that happened to be a small block (or big block) V8.

The new GT is using a modified version of Ford's standard midsize/fullsize passenger car (and truck) engine. At this time, that happens to be a twin turbocharged V6.

To me, that is the true "blue collar" ethos of the GT. Its not about simply using a V8. Its about using what is available and what works. A V8 doesn't have much relevance for the present landscape at Ford. The TTV6 just makes sense.

 

[Northstar]

That website seems to be rather good at making click bait articles judging by how often they are sourced. Just going off their front page it mostly just seems to be "our sources" type of articles that can easily be attributed to the source if they are wrong, that is if people even remember their claims in the first place.

As for V8's, I can see them ending up like the V10/12 where they aren't widely used, but still get crammed in an engine bay every once in awhile.

 

[DK]

So the daily mail of automobiles?

If the Daily Mail was a tiny local newspaper, then yes. This site only has 557 likes on Facebook!

 

[FoRiZon]

Ford really had to clear this up because dodge has done an exact opposite thing.

If the Daily Mail was a tiny local newspaper, then yes. This site only has 557 likes on Facebook!

Oh man. A much credible website has lost to a pantheon of sensasionalism.

 

[novadave]

I can tell you that there is even more to come on this subject. As a person who works as an Engineer in this industry I know that the regulations are in the process of becoming even more severe. There are already laws in place for the auto industry that effects all manufacturers in all countries. Four cylinders are quickly becoming the norm and as it stands now all manufacturers must have the majority of there vehicles equipped with these motors.
But all in all we have no choice. Eventually we have to accept the fact that there is too much pollution and the price of fuel will continue to rise. All of us are to blame - we like to drive our big suv`s and trucks to the local store just to buy a litre of milk !!!. It sucks but what`s done is done.