Ford Fiesta Thread: MK8 ST with 200 BHP 3cyl EcoBoost
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I disagree. Until Ford gets around to unifying their global stuff, or better yet, builds in car in North America, its still an "import" to me. Sure, all the money still gets sent to Dearborn, but I'd still call it English by nature.
When they all finally get around to operating like the global companies that they are, it should be interesting to see how we end up viewing some of the cars as "American" or "German" or "Korean" or whatever...
When they all finally get around to operating like the global companies that they are, it should be interesting to see how we end up viewing some of the cars as "American" or "German" or "Korean" or whatever...
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That's funny, because the Contour was significantly altered from the Mondeo (Especially out back) for the North American Market.
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The money doesn't all go to Dearborn, Ford Europe takes a profit for itself. As far as I'm aware ford Europe funds itself, ofcourse it's still an umbrella under Ford Motor Co so some money naturally goes to the main business but not all, or most, they let us keep enough to not need funding. At least that's how I've heared the setup works.
Ford Europe and Ford America have been virtually two seperate compaines as you know (at one time Ford UK and Ford Europe were two seperate companies offering seperate model line ups), it'll be interesting to see how these globalisation plans work out when it comes to the business structure.
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^ And also don't forget Ford Australia.
-> I've always consider Ford to be four or five seperate entities from the start (N. America, Europe, S. America, Australia, Asia or S. Africa). As you guys (if you) saw my infamous wish list, you can see that there are so many different types of Fords globally (I think I got 250 cars just from FORD in general).
-> I've always consider Ford to be four or five seperate entities from the start (N. America, Europe, S. America, Australia, Asia or S. Africa). As you guys (if you) saw my infamous wish list, you can see that there are so many different types of Fords globally (I think I got 250 cars just from FORD in general).
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I did not know that. 👍
If different rear fascia makes it feel American to you, more power to ya.
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Well, we never got the hatchback version here, only the sedan. I have no idea if there was even a regular "saloon" version sold in the UK of the first gen. I know Mondeo mk2 had one, and I'm positive the new 3rd edition doesn't.
Not at all surprising that Ford UK makes a tidy profit every year, while North America blows billions.
Not at all surprising that Ford UK makes a tidy profit every year, while North America blows billions.
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That reminds me of the Civic interior. The waistline is a bit high, but I'll take it.
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Hrrm... I'm not sure on it. I mean it looks okay, it's quite a radical design... but it isn't nearly as cohesive as the Mazda 2 on which it's based:
My also worry is the size of the headlights - it's a small car, so it'll be mainly used for local journeys. The occasional crunch isn't out of the question, and those headlights would cost an absolute bomb to replace (the Mazda also suffers this but I prefer the looks of the Mazda)
My also worry is the size of the headlights - it's a small car, so it'll be mainly used for local journeys. The occasional crunch isn't out of the question, and those headlights would cost an absolute bomb to replace (the Mazda also suffers this but I prefer the looks of the Mazda)
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I think that new fiesta zetec-s doesnt look as purposeful as the last gen one. The interior is improved over the last one but Im not sure if I like it. Also how do you stick in a aftermarket headunit? So far it appears to me that the corsa is the better vehicle.
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To be fair to the Fiesta you could ask that question of a lot of modern cars, it's just the way things are going. Many cars now have integrated stereo controls. It's the price you pay for design and security (try nicking the stereo in a car when it's all built into the dash...).
That said, in my experience Fords have decent stereos anyway, so maybe you'd find room for improvement just by changing the speakers. I'm not a big audio person in cars so I don't really care about fancy headunits etc.
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Yay! America gets Euro-car as well! Naturally, of course, we'll get a slightly weaker version, due to emissions regulations, and probably less exciting features, due to lawyers' protests, but this is definitely a great thing!
As far as I can tell, Ford of Europe is a brilliant car manufacturer, and it's about time we finally get a Euro-Ford. This Fiesta, also, is a great thing to come back with, beacause it's a high-mileage vehicle. That means that the sensible people will buy it (and there's way too many of them here), the patriotic people will buy it for the badge, the trendy people will buy it for the size and style, and that means that it will sell well enough that Ford will want to give us more of their better cars.
It's working!
As far as I can tell, Ford of Europe is a brilliant car manufacturer, and it's about time we finally get a Euro-Ford. This Fiesta, also, is a great thing to come back with, beacause it's a high-mileage vehicle. That means that the sensible people will buy it (and there's way too many of them here), the patriotic people will buy it for the badge, the trendy people will buy it for the size and style, and that means that it will sell well enough that Ford will want to give us more of their better cars.
It's working!
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True although in alot of other cars it can be done. You can probably do it in this fiesta also but with alot of modifying.
I wonder what the ST model will be like and if they will make a RS version.
On that note why is there not thread on the focus RS? Word on the grapevine is that ford are also gonna make a cosworth RS with 4wd but I thought Ford no longer hold the rights to the cosworth name?
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That's the bigger issue, most modern cars look awful inside with a new headunit fitted with a blanking plate because they simply aren't designed with that in mind. I'm a big Fiesta mk4/5/Puma fan and I cringe when I see a single din head unit fitted in that curvy dash, looks completely out of place.
The RS won't have 4WD. There's a fair bit of info in the latest Autocar magazine on the car and some great pics of the exterior and interior, info on the trick new suspension for it that apparently eradicates torque steer even though it'll have over 250bhp, the lot.
And it won't be called a Cosworth either, just RS.
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I really like the interior of the Fiesta... and I want one... when do they come out?
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Not necessarily. I'm personally under the impression that the people who will likely end up buying these in the US will be in the 30-50 year old range, looking for fuel economy, and in many cases for it to be "American." But, that being said, I think the automakers are taking a look at what people are sticking in their cars, and in the end, are offering head units that are as good (or better)... Or offering factory units that are on-par with the best equipment made available in the aftermarket.
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Well, you're seeing Bluetooth capability, hard drives...things the Aftermarket couldn't hope to put into an average head unit these days. I'll bet the center stack's all connected together behind there.
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Hmm...Yaris killer?
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I'd bet so. People in the States seem to make a big deal of the Yaris but in Europe it gets swallowed up by a large number of other small cars. The only real advantage it has over here is the reputation for reliability.
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I never said any of that. What I meant is that there will be a focus RS, and then apparently there will be a real strict limited run of 4wd COSWORTH RS's just before the new focus is out.
Leon Cupra drivers have been having 300hp out of their remapped vehicles and I dont see any issues with torque steer so I doubt the focus RS will have any.
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I am very excited for the Fiesta, it's probably the best looking small car I've ever seen. If it drives as well as it looks I will be seriously questioning why I bought the MINI instead of waiting for this. I'm guessing it will be rather inexpensive and feel rather solid. I know I will be taking a test drive when they are available.
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Where did you find this info? Or is it just heresay from people speculating?
The 9th July Autocar that I'm referring to makes absolutely no reference whatsoever to a 4WD "Cosworth", so if one exists it certainly won't be an official Ford, likely more an independant Cosworth model not sold through Ford. But I very much doubt it.
According to the Autocar feature the RS will have 295bhp, do 60 in less than 6 seconds, 155mph, have an LSD, trick front suspension, wider track, Recaro seats similar to those in the Clio 197 Cup (looking at the pictures), and cost less than £25k. More info here: http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/Videos.aspx?AR=233746
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Now that I think of it the Festiva kind of looks like a high-tech Focus.
The Ford Fiesta will not come to the US looking like THAT. It does look awesome, but it wont come here becuase Alan Mullany (Ford GM) wont bring anything over from europe until 2010, first being this, looking completely different, and then in 2011, the new Focus, will come here, on the new platform (THANK GOD). The focus in the US now is a POS. No offense to Ford by the way.
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Actually, it will come to North America "looking like THAT." Ford is moving to a global way in which they will design, build, and sell their cars, and consequently the Fiesta we receive will be identical to that seen in Europe, Asia and South America. There have been rumors that we may not get the Three-Door, but it has been poo-pooed. We're likely to get a Four-Door and the Three-Door, which should be more than enough to keep small car buyers happy.
...And the only reason why Ford has kept the Focus like that is because they make a bazillion dollars on each one they sell, and people keep buying them. Although people with good automotive tastes tend to stay away, you really can't fault the bullet-proof chassis and engine. Problem is, they killed off the Mazda parts they made available in the car, which at least in my opinion, was the last nail in the coffin for the MKI Focus in general...
...And the only reason why Ford has kept the Focus like that is because they make a bazillion dollars on each one they sell, and people keep buying them. Although people with good automotive tastes tend to stay away, you really can't fault the bullet-proof chassis and engine. Problem is, they killed off the Mazda parts they made available in the car, which at least in my opinion, was the last nail in the coffin for the MKI Focus in general...
