Ford GT - Ferrari Killer

[Earth]

People love Ferrari. Look at all the ruckus made over the inclusion of Ferrari in GT5. Well I'm not buying into all that hype. Ferraris are nice glamour cars, but Ford can build a better car for less. I present to you, the Ford GT.

Ford GT
$140,000
0-60 3.3
Top 212 mph

Ferrari F430
$170,000
0-60 3.5
Top 196mph

I already have a Le Mans club, but I can't resist this. I just can't wait to kill Ferraris in GT5 with the Ford GT. I can't wait to see somebody racing their precious Ferrari online thinking it's the fastest thing mankind has ever made only to get smoked by my Ford GT.

So, if you agree with and would like to do the above let me know. Maybe we can get a Team going. Ford GT. The Ferrari Killer. (Not final Name, most likely will be just "Ford GT") I need input etc

Ford GT wins (4)

(2) kjz250 (F430)
(2) m8te (512bb)

Ferrari wins (0)

 

[fordgt150]

I would like to join....once i get a ps3...but you know it will be a few years if gt5 is delayed anything like the psp verison of gran turismo 4

 

[Stevisiov]

People love Ferrari. Look at all the ruckus made over the inclusion of Ferrari in GT5. Well I'm not buying into all that hype. Ferraris are nice glamour cars, but Ford can build a better car for less. I present to you, the Ford GT.

Ford GT
$140,000
0-60 3.3
Top 212 mph

Ferrari F430
$170,000
0-60 3.5
Top 196mph

I already have a Le Mans club, but I can't resist this. I just can't wait to kill Ferraris in GT5 with the Ford GT. I can't wait to see somebody racing their precious Ferrari online thinking it's the fastest thing mankind has ever made only to get smoked by my Ford GT.

So, if you agree with and would like to do the above let me know. Maybe we can get a Team going. Ford GT. The Ferrari Killer. (Not final Name, most likely will be just "Ford GT") I need input etc

You cannot base value in speed and acceleration alone, what about ferrari's fastest supercar, enzo? i think its slightly quicker than fords fastest supercar.

I am not going to join nor am I going to prime my steering wheel ready for an online battle come october time, Personally I would rather challange ford with a porsche supercar...since there is no news on such vehicle being in GT5 then I cannot ask for a challange. But when that day comes, I will come back to this thread.

 

[Eric.]

Motor Trend couldn't choose one over the other. They said that the acceleration was better with the GT, but the Ferrari had a handling edge.

 

[Blake]

Bah, give me the F430 anyday. I’ll be there to challenge you guys when GT5 comes out.

 

[GT40 MKII]

count me in once i gets a ps3... ill tear through any ferrari that gets in my path. Ive been waiting for an opprotunity to do this

 

[McLaren]

Depends on what tracks you'll be racing. Straight way tracks give the Ford a bit of an advantage, but tracks like Suzuka will allow the F430 to get away.

 

[Glanza-V]

Fully tuned supras,skylines etc let alone the GT
will smoke ferraris

as for the team it'll be a while i want the ps3 prices to drop

 

[Muzaffar]

I don't support a Ford GT nor a Ferrari F430. I'll just be watching you guys racing and make a fool of yourself If you want a challange, go and race against a Lamborghini Murcielago at Fuji Speedway or even the elusive Tommy Kaira ZZII at Test Course

 

[GT40 MKII]

ill fly the colors..... proudly

 

[the Interceptor]

I just can't wait to kill Ferraris in GT5 with the Ford GT. I can't wait to see somebody racing their precious Ferrari online thinking it's the fastest thing mankind has ever made only to get smoked by my Ford GT.

I agree with the general idea of founding a club about a specific car or with a specific goal. However, I don't see how being quicker with a car that most liklely is quicker is an archievement. Apart from that, those who think that their Ferrari is unbeatable are either 12 years old or idiots (or both). Additionally, it is to be proven that a Ford GT is quicker than a F430, let alone a 599 GTB, which basically is a front-engined, luxury Enzo.

 

[GT40 MKII]

well if people tune up their ferraris someones gotta fight back

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Fully tuned supras,skylines etc let alone the GT
will smoke ferraris

modified cars vs stock cars? fair comparison well done

 

[D0wNForc3]

i for one am on the ferrari's side, ill race for team schumacher and fly the red flag. and 4wd cars suck, bloody murcialago (spelling???)

 

[Scaff]

People love Ferrari. Look at all the ruckus made over the inclusion of Ferrari in GT5. Well I'm not buying into all that hype. Ferraris are nice glamour cars, but Ford can build a better car for less. I present to you, the Ford GT.

At a stonking great loss for each and every one of them.

Ferrari only sell sportscars, they do not have a massive range of volume cars that subsidise loss making one-off halo models. A little reality check on this one, Ferrari charge more because they have to make a profit just off sports cars, if Ford had to do the same they would be in a comparable price bracket (just as every manufacturer of just sports cars is).

Ford GT
$140,000
0-60 3.3
Top 212 mph

Ferrari F430
$170,000
0-60 3.5
Top 196mph

I already have a Le Mans club, but I can't resist this. I just can't wait to kill Ferraris in GT5 with the Ford GT. I can't wait to see somebody racing their precious Ferrari online thinking it's the fastest thing mankind has ever made only to get smoked by my Ford GT.

So, if you agree with and would like to do the above let me know. Maybe we can get a Team going. Ford GT. The Ferrari Killer. (Not final Name, most likely will be just "Ford GT") I need input etc

Simple numbers alone do not produce realistic comparisons at all, certainly not just v-max and 0-60 times, the track and driver have as much to do with it as pure numbers. For example I can do this.....

Top Gear Lap Times
Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear spoiler) 1.17.6
Pagani Zonda F 1.18.4
Maserati MC12 1.18.9
Ferrari Enzo 1.19.0
Ariel Atom 1.19.5
Lamborghini LP640 1.19.8
Porsche Carerra GT 1.19.8
Koenigsegg CCX 1.20.4
Ascari KZ1 1.20.7
Mercedes McLaren SLR 1.20.9
Ford GT 1.21.9


...and use it to prove that the Ariel Atom is a 'better' car than the Ford GT for significantly less money. Right now I'm off to form a Ford GT Killer club, that will show them.



Scaff

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

i for one am on the ferrari's side, ill race for team schumacher and fly the red flag. and 4wd cars suck, bloody murcialago (spelling???)

nothing wrong with the murcielago.you wouldnt know it was 4WD(it is mainly RWD anyway) and it hides its weight extremely well on the track.although my mate just sold his for an F430 so hopefully soon i can tell you if thats better!(although somehow i doubt it)

 

[D0wNForc3]

nothing wrong with the murcielago.you wouldnt know it was 4WD(it is mainly RWD anyway) and it hides its weight extremely well on the track.although my mate just sold his for an F430 so hopefully soon i can tell you if thats better!(although somehow i doubt it)

dude, i wish i had mates like yours. though ill back the f430 all the way, mainly because of stubborness.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

ill back the f430 all the way, mainly because of stubborness.

wait till you hear a tubi decatted gallardo going passed you at 130mph at full throttle that will change your mind

 

[Stevisiov]

wait till you hear a tubi decatted gallardo going passed you at 130mph at full throttle that will change your mind

Being a passenger while racing against one at an oulton park track day, I can agree that it may sway you slightly, it is a damn good car 👍

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Being a passenger while racing against one at an oulton park track day, I can agree that it may sway you slightly, it is a damn good car 👍

off topic but what were you in?

i have been in the gallardo round knockhill and in a tuned murcielago being chased but a modified tuscan s with a very fast driver.few of the experience you just never forget!

 

[McLaren]

I agree with the general idea of founding a club about a specific car or with a specific goal. However, I don't see how being quicker with a car that most liklely is quicker is an archievement. Apart from that, those who think that their Ferrari is unbeatable are either 12 years old or idiots (or both). Additionally, it is to be proven that a Ford GT is quicker than a F430, let alone a 599 GTB, which basically is a front-engined, luxury Enzo.

In what? Straight line speed? Probably, but there's enough results to show a F430 can have a major advantage. With 70 horses less, it still is a huge match for a GT. There's a reason why Ferrari technology is praised by critics, and the F430 is solid proof with certain tracks being faster than the Ford.

As for the 599GTB, I sooo highly doubt Ford's GT is a match. Nurburging's F599 set a time of 7:47 compared to the GT's 7:52. On Hockenheim Short, the F599 was 2 seconds quicker. The big V12 weighs the 599GTB down a lot, allowing equal QTR miles. And even though the GT is equal in 0-100kph, the 599 GTB's V12 kicks in allowing a faster 0-200 and 0-300kph.

 

[Earth]

fordgt150, GT40MKII, Glanza V, this club will be here when GT5 hits. Hopefully you guys will have your PS3 by then and we get go about doing our business

blake, downforc3, I'll be ready and willing to race Michael Schumacher's Ferraris with the Ford GT. Heck, I think even the new '07 Viper can beat the F430

And scaff, thanks for those times 👍 I've been wondering what the GT's top gear time was. Just 2-3 seconds slower than cars 5-10 times the price. Incredible. A little tuning here and there and it's just as fast as a Ferrari Enzo. Wow.

The atom is a joke of a car lol. The GT has AC and other creature comforts. The atom is an engine, tires and chassis and a seat and steering wheel.

As for this club, I want it to revolve around the GT but it's final name and purpose has not been decided. Help me decide GT fans

 

[the Interceptor]

In what? Straight line speed?

Well, Earth didn't specify in which kind of race he plans to "smoke" the Ferraris with his Ford GT. Anyway, I'm ready and willing to take him on.

 

[Scaff]

And scaff, thanks for those times 👍 I've been wondering what the GT's top gear time was. Just 2-3 seconds slower than cars 5-10 times the price. Incredible. A little tuning here and there and it's just as fast as a Ferrari Enzo. Wow.

To gain 2 - 3 seconds is going to take more than a 'little tuning here and there', on a track as small as the Top Gear one the difference of a few seconds is massive.

Now don't get me wrong I'm not knocking the Ford GT, simply disagreeing with you that Ferraris are over-hyped and over expensive. You seem to have completely overlooked what I said about the GT being a massive loss leader for Ford, they could not have put the car into full production at the sale cost.

The atom is a joke of a car lol. The GT has AC and other creature comforts. The atom is an engine, tires and chassis and a seat and steering wheel.

What else does a car need to be fast? Sorry I thought the criteria here was value for money speed and performance, not the creature comforts. You want fast and cheap then the Atom is far from a joke, hammering the GT and many, many others for a fraction of the price (and a real price not one subsidised by volume car sales).

Regards

Scaff

 

[Stevisiov]

off topic but what were you in?

I was in a modified 206 rally car, based on the WRC version, it produces 550BHP and was tested and recorded doing 0-60 in 3.16 seconds. If you want I can give you a link to the car, it was a great race. The gallardo wasn't really a match for pace, but it was hard to say if that was the drivers pace. Still I would take the gallardo anyday, it sounds awesome, and looks superb.

i have been in the gallardo round knockhill and in a tuned murcielago being chased but a modified tuscan s with a very fast driver.few of the experience you just never forget!

I can imagine that would be one hell of a race. 👍

And scaff, thanks for those times 👍 I've been wondering what the GT's top gear time was. Just 2-3 seconds slower than cars 5-10 times the price. Incredible. A little tuning here and there and it's just as fast as a Ferrari Enzo. Wow.

You still don't appear to understand, you can not value a car on speed alone, if that is the case you might as well buy a radical and be done with it, I think they are 70,000 pounds approx, they will lap far faster than a GT, yet would you say it is better car? A Rolls Royce phantom cost around 250,000 pounds, that should be quicker than a 430 right because it costs more.

Ford can afford to sell a car at a loss just because they can, scaff has covered it. Ferrari cannot. Simple. Don't base value on speed either.

 

[DEMON DRIFTER]

wish i could but when i get a ps3 it wont get hooked up to the net :sad:
great name though i love it and fords :d

 

[Drift260Z]

well Stevisiov90 and Earth, the original poster of this thread was saying that the Ford GT is faster than an F430 while being cheaper. so, Earth seems to be judging it on speed alone. don't you two start getting off subject and start mentioning all the other things like creature comforts. Earth was talking about which one was quicker for less money (he thinks the Ford GT). and one can even say "what about the F430 CS version?", in which I guess they could. which, is quicker than the Ford GT. but, then Scaff mentioned pointed out that the Ariel Atom is MUCH quicker than the GT, and costing half as much. and if you want to say the Radial is better than the GT, it is because it's quicker. I'm just using Earth's original logic. not the one where he turned into a Car&Driver editor and started pointing out all the non-go fast stuff when he started to feel he was losing the argument.




Joseph.

 

[Earth]

OK GT5P is out...let the Ferrari slaughter begin at the hands of the Ford GT

I'm going to keep a list of drivers of Ferraris who have been vanquished by the Ford GT in the first post. What exactly do I mean? Any Ferrari I finish ahead of in any race gets added to the list like this:

John Doe (Ferrari F430/Suzuka)

And if a Ferrari(s) finishes aheaed of me, I'll add it to the list as well

 

[nissan tuner]

the only Ferrari model i see the ford GT "smoking" in GT5p is the Berlinetta Boxer and that was sold in 1973–1984 with 340HP

A Ford GT will have a very hard time beating an F430 on a track unless its daytona speedway or high speed ring. if you haven't noticed, the F430's global laptimes tends to be almost always quicker than a GT.

not saying this will make up for very poor driving skill you'll see online but a Ford GT isnt "smoking" an F430 IRL when you take the human error out of the equation


599 or F40 is no contest

 

[GT40 MKII]

who said some of the GT'S will be stock?