Formula 1 2018-19 off season threadFormula 1

[DesertPenguin]

Well if missing one day of testing wasn't bad enough, Williams will miss day two as well...great start to the season for the folks at Grove

Part of me thinks the car isn't done or is crap and they're working all night on it

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Part of me thinks the car isn't done or is crap and they're working all night on it

I posted pictures of the car so it's obvious it exists, they said there was an issue with getting it ready for travel and it will be air freighted to the track for Wednesday.

 

[DesertPenguin]

I thought that was a computer render ,nevermind then

 

[Tired Tyres]

I posted pictures of the car so it's obvious it exists, they said there was an issue with getting it ready for travel and it will be air freighted to the track for Wednesday.

You mean last years car with this uears wings and livery.

Most of the teams did that as they are still working on the new car.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

You mean last years car with this uears wings and livery.

Most of the teams did that as they are still working on the new car.

No I mean this year's car, if I had meant last year's car I'd have said so, and pointed him to the picture of the presentation car they showed with the new RoKit livery. The car I'm talking about and the one you are are not the same thing so why you keep suggesting it as such is beyond me. Especially after I informed you in the other thread that no other team did as you suggest, other than Haas and Williams, both of which later posted images in studio of their 2019 cars. Which are quite different than the 2018, Haas less so however.

Williams again had intended to run a shakedown/film session on Saturday canceled it because the car wasn't ready and then proceeded to further cancel events the car would take place in because said car wasn't ready. It wasn't ready because a certain part on the car supposedly was asked to be expressed built in half the time it typically takes and thus the results of it are as seen. Also most teams aren't working on their new cars still because as indicated by yesterday's first day test session, 9 out of the 10 cars listed to run this years season showed up.

 

[Tired Tyres]

No I mean this year's car, if I had meant last year's car I'd have said so, and pointed him to the picture of the presentation car they showed with the new RoKit livery. The car I'm talking about and the one you are are not the same thing so why you keep suggesting it as such is beyond me. Especially after I informed you in the other thread that no other team did as you suggest, other than Haas and Williams, both of which later posted images in studio of their 2019 cars. Which are quite different than the 2018, Haas less so however.

Williams again had intended to run a shakedown/film session on Saturday canceled it because the car wasn't ready and then proceeded to further cancel events the car would take place in because said car wasn't ready. It wasn't ready because a certain part on the car supposedly was asked to be expressed built in half the time it typically takes and thus the results of it are as seen. Also most teams aren't working on their new cars still because as indicated by yesterday's first day test session, 9 out of the 10 cars listed to run this years season showed up.

Because, very simply, EVERY car outside Mercedes and Redbull shown was last year's car with this years wings and livery. That was for announcement reasons. The actual 2019 cars are now running in testing.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Because, very simply, EVERY car outside Mercedes and Redbull shown was last year's car with this years wings and livery. That was for announcement reasons. The actual 2019 cars are now running in testing.

Again you find that info and come back to me with it chief beyond what I've already said, just as a reminder Haas and Williams did a livery presentation, everyone else did a presentation of their new car. Haas on the same day showed their car that is at the track as we speak, they did so through online studio images. I already just explained how Williams did it and when they were suppose to present in person. None of which has anything to do with what you originally quoted me on, which is the reason for Williams delay of running.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Some horror stories coming out of Williams according to those ever-present "un-named sources". The biggy with the car was that the braking system didn't fit together on assembly. This is, we're told, a design issue. No **** Sherlock. Further to that other sources are saying that team morale is at a very low ebb.

In better news I can highly recommend the Frank Williams documentary by Minnow that's currently on the BBC iPlayer (region-dependent, I'd imagine).

 

[Sureboss]

@TenEightyOne I saw that the other night. Really good.

It's a great shame to see Williams in such a place.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Red Bull gives you wings, Renault takes them away.

 

[Carbon_6]

It looked to me like the wing had already failed before it went skyward – compared to the Toro Rosso behind, the upper wing appeared to be bent upwards, most likely by the air pressure that had built up by being filtered through the gap in between the upper and lower wings.

The DRS actuator might have broken when it was activated.

 

[TenEightyOne]

It looked to me like the wing had already failed before it went skyward – compared to the Toro Rosso behind, the upper wing appeared to be bent upwards, most likely by the air pressure that had built up by being filtered through the gap in between the upper and lower wings.

The DRS actuator might have broken when it was activated.

I agree, the center "catch" wasn't holding the wing firmly (or at all) and it wasn't able to resist the drag on its own.

 

[Veinz]

Standardized gearboxes coming in 2021.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/1...3.1056991757.1550344775-1485833789.1550344775

The governing body wants all competitors to share common internals but have their own "team specific" gearbox casings on which the suspension is hung.


Good move, they are hardly a performance differentiator. Most teams buy them from the big teams anyway.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Williams arrived in Barcelona at 0400 and expect to hit the track sometime during the afternoon. Gentlemen, place your bets...

 

[Dotini]

Williams arrived in Barcelona at 0400 and expect to hit the track sometime during the afternoon. Gentlemen, place your bets...

By 1410 they achieved 1 lap with no time.

 

[Moglet]

Not looking like a great week for F1, although I’m sure this isn’t too out of the ordinary.



Edit:
A more complete article regarding the promoters’s concerns.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/47040731

The fact the live coverage has moved away from free-to-air TV has certainly put me off following F1 for this year. Last year I started to get into it and managed to watch quite a few races on Channel 4 but this year it will only be available on Sky so I won't be watching. I imagine lots of people are in similar positions. Unfortunately for Liberty it seems this was a deal struck by Bernie Ecclestone before they took over.

 

[Yellowbeard]

The fact the live coverage has moved away from free-to-air TV has certainly put me off following F1 for this year. Last year I started to get into it and managed to watch quite a few races on Channel 4 but this year it will only be available on Sky so I won't be watching. I imagine lots of people are in similar positions. Unfortunately for Liberty it seems this was a deal struck by Bernie Ecclestone before they took over.

Channel 4 have secured the rights to broadcast the British F1 GP live as well as highlights of the rest of the races in 2019 ...... so if I feel the need for a nap I can at least almost guarantee being put to sleep by attempting to watch it

 

[TenEightyOne]

Williams have made a late start... but 1.5 seconds off the back of the pack on the same compound? There has to be more to come, even if it's just a P45.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Three McLaren employees have been treated in hospital after a "small" fire in the McLaren garage at Barcelona during a private testing day. No serious injuries, fortunately, and the cars are undamaged. BBC.

 

[Veinz]

Apparently Ted Kravitz got canned because the new head of Sky (Scott Young) doesn't like him. I watched his qualy and race notebooks all the time, Young is a dip****.

 

[mustafur]

Maybe him and Buxton will swap.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

I can’t stand Ted Kravitz, so I see this as a positive move. All he does is bicker and come up with conspiracy theories. Something needs to be done about David Croft too.

 

[Adam41]

Ted Kravitz's analysis of the cars as part of his notebook was the best part of the Sky coverage for testing. Instead they show 4 hours live of testing which is really exciting.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Apparently Ted Kravitz got canned because the new head of Sky (Scott Young) doesn't like him. I watched his qualy and race notebooks all the time, Young is a dip****.

If they want to put Kravitz somewhere that people can elect to watch him, that's fine. As part of the race coverage it really didn't work - his rambling stories could take two-or-three laps to complete and were mostly useless (imo).

 

[twitcher]

I enjoy Ted’s notebook, and the stuff he does before and after races. I agree that during the races, he can ramble a bit. The thing I like most about Ted though, is that he seems like a regular guy who is just passionate about F1. I’m sure Karun will do a decent job in replacing him, but between Brundle, Herbert, Hill, Button, there are enough former drivers on the team. It’s nice to get some contrast to that with a guy in shorts and sandles.

 

[DesertPenguin]

I enjoy Ted’s notebook, and the stuff he does before and after races. I agree that during the races, he can ramble a bit. The thing I like most about Ted though, is that he seems like a regular guy who is just passionate about F1. I’m sure Karun will do a decent job in replacing him, but between Brundle, Herbert, Hill, Button, there are enough former drivers on the team. It’s nice to get some contrast to that with a guy in shorts and sandles.

What exactly was Ted Kravitz's title? Was he called a commentator?

One of the most important aspects of sports television is the commentator/color-commentator dynamic. The color-commentator is the one with the actual sport knowledge to "color" the commentary with details the layman wouldn't pick up on. The commentator by themselves should still be able to properly describe what's happening at any given moment. Did Ted Kravitz do that or was he just talking around topics? Genuinely asking because that's probably where the discussion was in terms of "Do we keep him or not/what does he bring to the table".

 

[twitcher]

What exactly was Ted Kravitz's title? Was he called a commentator?

One of the most important aspects of sports television is the commentator/color-commentator dynamic. The color-commentator is the one with the actual sport knowledge to "color" the commentary with details the layman wouldn't pick up on. The commentator by themselves should still be able to properly describe what's happening at any given moment. Did Ted Kravitz do that or was he just talking around topics? Genuinely asking because that's probably where the discussion was in terms of "Do we keep him or not/what does he bring to the table".

I think he was a “pit lane reporter” who also offered technical insight, although I’m not fully aware of what his technical qualifications are.

All that said, apparently it’s irrelevet. #FoundTed

 

[Jimlaad43]

In a choice of Kravitz vs Chandhok, I'd take Chandhok any day. He always seemed to get to the point sooner, and always has more detail and actual driver experience/anecdotes that explain the point. With Sky pretty much taking a monopoly, Chandhok fills the roll better.

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Glad they have confirmed Ted, he brings much needed ghettoness to F1 coverage.

 

[TenEightyOne]

In a choice of Kravitz vs Chandhok, I'd take Chandhok any day.

For me you could replace the word "Kravitz" with "Ebola", "Detonation" or "Taking my own eyes out with spoons" and it would still work. Gutted they've re-hired him.

In other news... the Mercedes already looks heavily revised from last week's test - given the short amount of time since it last ran I think we're seeing something closer to the intended 2019 spec than we did last week.

EDIT: I initially put "Chandhok", god knows why... I meant Kravitz