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In fact, he quite clearly says he's just hypothesizing, and won't know until they get the car back and can investigate.
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I was intending to stay away from spoilers and the like to watch the C4 highlights later, but that plan came a cropper 5 minutes after waking up... what happened to 'Nando exactly? Just seen the 7 highlight reel on Youtube, they mentioned him and Sainz started on the Hards and he was running quite well mid-race. Did he get screwed over by the SC too? Either way, what a weekend that could've been for him if everything worked out, what with Max pulling up again...
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Max retiring for damn second time further gives me the vibe that this season would resemble 2005.
After 2021 resembles 2006 before, 24 year old rising star vs 36 year old 7-time WDC, weird mistakes of the 7-time WDCs (ex: Schumacher's Australia, Hamilton's Baku), involved in some controversial events, like Schumacher's Monaco stunt and Hamilton's Silverstone incident, but both (and their team) are making some comeback at 2nd half, Verstappen's first results being inverted version of Alonso's...
Now for 2022 with 2005, there's the previously dominating team taking a downturn, being distant 3rd behind the leading 2 teams, and drags down the 7-time WDC with it. The championship battle is now between the 2 rising stars only, but in particular, one of the stars is ineligible to enter F1, but instead had only 1 season in a midfield to prove his talent (especially regarding speed), and is immediately promoted to a race winning team, and then drove Newey designed cars that can go radical in design, giving them tons of mechanical problems. Of which both Kimi and Max are, though it's lack of experience for the former and age for the latter.
After 2021 resembles 2006 before, 24 year old rising star vs 36 year old 7-time WDC, weird mistakes of the 7-time WDCs (ex: Schumacher's Australia, Hamilton's Baku), involved in some controversial events, like Schumacher's Monaco stunt and Hamilton's Silverstone incident, but both (and their team) are making some comeback at 2nd half, Verstappen's first results being inverted version of Alonso's...
Now for 2022 with 2005, there's the previously dominating team taking a downturn, being distant 3rd behind the leading 2 teams, and drags down the 7-time WDC with it. The championship battle is now between the 2 rising stars only, but in particular, one of the stars is ineligible to enter F1, but instead had only 1 season in a midfield to prove his talent (especially regarding speed), and is immediately promoted to a race winning team, and then drove Newey designed cars that can go radical in design, giving them tons of mechanical problems. Of which both Kimi and Max are, though it's lack of experience for the former and age for the latter.
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I didn't really catch either of the first two sportswashing grands prix, but I've just seen the qualifying highlights on C4 (I can't watch the race highlights until after the broadcast has finished, and might not bother)...
... and while I appreciate that this is a specific complaint that only UK viewers will understand, and likely personal preference, Alex Jacques is extremely hard to listen to; it's just a guessing game of what vowel he'll mangle next.
I recall thinking this previously on F1 Esports, the odd Goodwood event, and some lower formula stuff, but he's just getting worse. He was lead commentator last year too, but I don't recall it being this bad (edit: apparently I did mention it
) - and C4 is really my only option for race highlights other than F1's own YouTube.
... and while I appreciate that this is a specific complaint that only UK viewers will understand, and likely personal preference, Alex Jacques is extremely hard to listen to; it's just a guessing game of what vowel he'll mangle next.
I recall thinking this previously on F1 Esports, the odd Goodwood event, and some lower formula stuff, but he's just getting worse. He was lead commentator last year too, but I don't recall it being this bad (edit: apparently I did mention it
) - and C4 is really my only option for race highlights other than F1's own YouTube.
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Another fairly boring Australian gp. Imagine that.
Nice to see Leclerc doing well.
Nice to see Leclerc doing well.
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OK I admit that this race wasn't as exciting as the first 2 but it wasn't crap either. I was satisfied with the result and enjoyed being there with the 129,000 odd spectators who were just happy to be out. We may not have the greatest track for racing but we have a passionate crowd who really gets into the action. It makes the whole thing worthwhile.
Before the weekend started I wasn't sure what to expect. I had hopes the track would deliver something truly special but I also had a few concerns based on what we've seen in previous years. I probably overhyped it, saying that there'd be a strategy game along with some more on-track overtakes to provide excitement. There weren't any bold strategy calls but there was a bit more overtaking so I guess it delivered in that regard. As Abu Dhabi proved, changing up a track's layout won't transform the way a race plays out because it's the same basic structure as before. The same inherent flaws are still there but that won't stop me from going back. Seeing the cars, hearing the cars and smelling the cars is an experience that you simply cannot replicate through a TV broadcast. Of course I'd like to get even closer and take proper pictures but anyway, it's great have F1 in Melbourne again.
Before the weekend started I wasn't sure what to expect. I had hopes the track would deliver something truly special but I also had a few concerns based on what we've seen in previous years. I probably overhyped it, saying that there'd be a strategy game along with some more on-track overtakes to provide excitement. There weren't any bold strategy calls but there was a bit more overtaking so I guess it delivered in that regard. As Abu Dhabi proved, changing up a track's layout won't transform the way a race plays out because it's the same basic structure as before. The same inherent flaws are still there but that won't stop me from going back. Seeing the cars, hearing the cars and smelling the cars is an experience that you simply cannot replicate through a TV broadcast. Of course I'd like to get even closer and take proper pictures but anyway, it's great have F1 in Melbourne again.
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As you've handily noted, we're only 3 races into a season with a complete overhaul of the regs, up to and including the new fuel mixture which may or may not be playing a part in all this. Yes, he's had 2 DNF's already... and a race win. That car might be inherently unreliable at present but for crying out loud, it's not a boat that's miles off the pace.
As much as I'd personally like Max to move away from the RB brand, it's going to take a lot more than that for him to consider switching.
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Forgot to say this, but at the first 3 races, McLaren at 2005 wasn't the fastest too, they lose pace to Renault at races like Bahrain. They started becoming the fastest after they sorted out something (that I forgot for now) since Imola.
Kimi had troubled first 2 races too that led him to score only 7 points at that time. In Australia his engine stalled and in Malaysia he got a puncture.
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After Bahrain I thought Pirelli might this year contribute to interesting races with 2 stops that cater for more strategic variation... but same old got rolled out with a hard tyre that could do the full race distance.
Pretty boring race: I had bought tickets before the crapshoot of an end of season last year and I went along somewhat begrudgingly and expecting a crap race - it wasn't as bad as I expected.
The new cars in real life look pretty good and sound interesting. The queues for overpriced food and drinks, or for bathrooms, and for trams at the end of the day were not so good.
Pretty boring race: I had bought tickets before the crapshoot of an end of season last year and I went along somewhat begrudgingly and expecting a crap race - it wasn't as bad as I expected.
The new cars in real life look pretty good and sound interesting. The queues for overpriced food and drinks, or for bathrooms, and for trams at the end of the day were not so good.
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With the step of 2 grades between medium and soft there wasn't another way.
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As soon as they talked about those record numbers, my first thought was, "I wonder if the venue has the same problem as COTA did" (although COTA's issues were more along resources & layout than queues).
400,000+ people is a lot & I don't know if any F1 venue is really setup to handle such numbers.
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I still don't know how people were calling that a bad Grand Prix. Apart from a battle for the lead, there was loads going on. Safety Cars, crashes, overtakes in many places on the track, a really close midfield battle and a monster drive from Albon. It was a good race and just because a leader checks out it doesn't automatically make it boring.
Paul Ricard in 2018 and 2019 had some of the most overtakes of their respective seasons, but because Hamilton won by a country mile in both races, they were declared boring when they were anything but. 2021 French GP was exactly the same as 18 and 19, just with a battle for the lead this time, and then people are like "OMG worst track on the calendar did a good race". I wasn't surprised that Paul Ricard could produce and epic race because it already did. It also had some of the most non-DRS passes of all tracks, so everyone who moans that DRS is bad suddenly only likes tracks with it?
Removing the DRS zone at Melbourne actually meant there were DRS-free passes at Melbourne, and it was also into a corner that caused many mistakes. Melbourne was a great race (better than Jeddah), so I truly fail to understand all the hate it's getting.
Paul Ricard in 2018 and 2019 had some of the most overtakes of their respective seasons, but because Hamilton won by a country mile in both races, they were declared boring when they were anything but. 2021 French GP was exactly the same as 18 and 19, just with a battle for the lead this time, and then people are like "OMG worst track on the calendar did a good race". I wasn't surprised that Paul Ricard could produce and epic race because it already did. It also had some of the most non-DRS passes of all tracks, so everyone who moans that DRS is bad suddenly only likes tracks with it?
Removing the DRS zone at Melbourne actually meant there were DRS-free passes at Melbourne, and it was also into a corner that caused many mistakes. Melbourne was a great race (better than Jeddah), so I truly fail to understand all the hate it's getting.
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