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ROAD_DOGG33J
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How much of a difference could a flexi wing grant to Mercedes? I haven't taken a look. Is there a good video of this flexing in action?
It seems like the difference in Brazil was mainly due to the fresh engine.
It seems like the difference in Brazil was mainly due to the fresh engine.
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Apparently their speed is "back to normal" lol https://www.planetf1.com/news/christian-horner-mercedes-normal-speed/
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Watched onboards of both Max/Lewis wings today they dont flex at all not even marginally, its more about bitterness/gamesmanship between the teams. They were scrutineering the gaps in the DRS on the RB's no doubt at behest of Mercedes after last weeks whinge fest... Hope Drive to Survive dig some dirt on this childishness should make great viewing lol
Veinz
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If this was happening you would think there would be footage of it in action by now. But it would be hard to spot tbf.
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Mercedes being accused of a flexible wing past the rules is quite rich coming from Red Bull.
1. No one has footage of this happening or working, even from the rear angle cameras.
2. FIA has been all over Mercedes wing a few times and found nothing other than a part that broke.
3. Red Bull is the undisputed master of flexible wings to break the rules. Including this season when they went unpunished for designing a wing that would pass the specific loading tests the FIA used, but still deform past regulation under racing conditions. And they got no penalty and were allowed to keep running it for an additional 2 races.
4. Stop this crap you idiots (teams lawyering up) and race for crying out loud. I think half the accusations are just trying to jeep the stewards and inspectors looking at the other teams car instead of their own.
1. No one has footage of this happening or working, even from the rear angle cameras.
2. FIA has been all over Mercedes wing a few times and found nothing other than a part that broke.
3. Red Bull is the undisputed master of flexible wings to break the rules. Including this season when they went unpunished for designing a wing that would pass the specific loading tests the FIA used, but still deform past regulation under racing conditions. And they got no penalty and were allowed to keep running it for an additional 2 races.
4. Stop this crap you idiots (teams lawyering up) and race for crying out loud. I think half the accusations are just trying to jeep the stewards and inspectors looking at the other teams car instead of their own.
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Penalties should be a slam dunk, the videos clearly show them passing double waved and/or single waved yellows. As already said that means slow down, irrespective of what your dashboard or the light panel says. Electronics can fail, the flags can't and always take precedence.
Oh and some people seem to be mistaken thinking that the yellow flags can be thrown in error. That's not how it works. Race control don't decide when to throw yellows, it's the other way around. The marshals throw the manual yellow and at the same time press a button to send the signal for the electronic ones to follow. It would be absurd to do it the other way around, marshals can always spot potential hazards before the cameras can.
So no, it's not possible that they were an error because it's the judgement of the marshal who throws them based on their training. It seems in this case there may have been a fault with the signal to the digital boards, but again, not relevant.
In fact VER does also have a yellow light come on at the same point. 100% slam dunker.
I assume they're delaying them until tomorrow before the race for that drama they so crave these days, like the end of a Batman episode. "Will they get a penalty? Tune in tomorrow, same time, same channel!"
Oh and some people seem to be mistaken thinking that the yellow flags can be thrown in error. That's not how it works. Race control don't decide when to throw yellows, it's the other way around. The marshals throw the manual yellow and at the same time press a button to send the signal for the electronic ones to follow. It would be absurd to do it the other way around, marshals can always spot potential hazards before the cameras can.
So no, it's not possible that they were an error because it's the judgement of the marshal who throws them based on their training. It seems in this case there may have been a fault with the signal to the digital boards, but again, not relevant.
In fact VER does also have a yellow light come on at the same point. 100% slam dunker.
I assume they're delaying them until tomorrow before the race for that drama they so crave these days, like the end of a Batman episode. "Will they get a penalty? Tune in tomorrow, same time, same channel!"
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"It’s a bit of a shame because I had the yellow flag in the last sector and then the yellow flag cleared, I guess, because Max was coming.”
- Sebastian Vettel
Even the drivers see what's going on.
- Sebastian Vettel
Even the drivers see what's going on.
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Vettel is just playing with the F1 and media. He knows how it works in this circus. Like his on board radio to touch the rear wing of Lewis' car. "Oooh wait maybe front wing is 25K". See the fun of it. I like that style of humour.
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Why was only one person waving with the double yellow and why not another one before or in the corner? The Gasly incident was already about 30 secs earlier? What has the FIA themselves to say about this messy situation?
BTW: That doesn't say the drivers could ignore and/or don't notice the one marshall. I leave that decision to the stewards this afternoon. my assumption: Five places Verstappen and Sainz, Bottas three places
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With the way that Gasly's wing broke, any car that was behind could have been a danger. I know it seems like a longshot, but anything could have happened - take a look at Verstappen's front wing as he comes into the pit straight.
The FIA is all about safety after the death of Jules Bianchi and Antoine Hubert, as well as Romain Grosjean's crash. Them not giving these penalties is pretty much saying "Safety matters when it's convenient". The want the $$$, so a little safety can take a backseat for them.
The FIA is all about safety after the death of Jules Bianchi and Antoine Hubert, as well as Romain Grosjean's crash. Them not giving these penalties is pretty much saying "Safety matters when it's convenient". The want the $$$, so a little safety can take a backseat for them.
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Ok rest will follow. Expect Max 5. Spice up for the race. Cameras rolling
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Edit: Max 5 places grid penalty
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AshenGraey
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Gasly might overtake Ham at the start since he is on the soft tires.....this could be an interesting race
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If any of them take the lead at the start they'll hold it for four laps at best.
