- 28,352
- Brooklyn, NY
- KR_Viper
- I Renown I
Everything you've said is poorly contrived.
forza 4 dissapointment thread
- Thread starter ocalot2k5
- 98 comments
- 9,039 views
- Status
I'm holding out my other cheek and an olive branch LOL. I feel emotionally broke hohoho.
I bet it is sir, i bet it is.
- 28,352
- Brooklyn, NY
- KR_Viper
- I Renown I
There's an edit button you know?
I'm going to stop responding now before I get myself in trouble. So, good day to you.
I'm going to stop responding now before I get myself in trouble. So, good day to you.
- 28,352
- Brooklyn, NY
- KR_Viper
- I Renown I
His proof is the R8 5.2's interior from FM3.
A very, very pixelated image from FM3.
A very, very pixelated image from FM3.
- 4,038
- United States
We are not talking opinions. We are talking facts.
Forza has generic dashes = fact claim
Forza has some generic looking dashes = opinion
Forza has generic dashes = fact claim
Forza has some generic looking dashes = opinion
And now, since you have provided that hypothesis, will you go back and read my claim on forza. I said 50% of their cockpits are a variation and generic? Sure the 50% maybe an exageration but my point still stands. The textures are almost non existent in part of forza's catalogue and they are usually a variation of the black and shiny.
Eric.
Premium
- 8,515
- GTP_Eric
- Ebiggs
That's not how a debate works. You proposed the opposing claim (which opposes everybody in this thread). That means YOU support that claim.
I know if I had proof that I was the sole person who was right on a forum, I'd be getting my proof out to rub it in everyone elses face. I'm looking forward to being proven wrong.
If every car in my FM4 garage is red, does that makes them all variations of the same car? Because now you're arguing that because most interiors are dark colored (what do you want them to be, pink and fluffy?), they are just variations? Both my real life cars' interiors are accurately modeled.
- 28,352
- Brooklyn, NY
- KR_Viper
- I Renown I
Just stop, Eric. Let it go.
Report him if anything.
Report him if anything.
Eric.
Premium
- 8,515
- GTP_Eric
- Ebiggs
- 1,011
- UK
- the_greeze
WTF have I walked in on? What's up with this thread? lol
- 19
- mistercheeto72
Haha..... One thing that can't be argued,
It sure is a popular thread.
It sure is a popular thread.
- 1,214
Yeap. I wonder why people feel get so defensive when the game speak for itself.
One my disappointment is single player races are shorter than fm3.
Last edited:
- 208
Could OP please fix the spelling errors and grammatical mistakes in the thread title? It'd really help lend this topic more legitimacy. Thanks 
- 1,019
- Germantown WI
- FuzzyFassbender
- FuzzyFassbender
I've raced various cars old and new, been to a number of different tracks in different locations around the world. Damn it, it all smells the same! I could care less if it looks, sounds, or feels great. Where's the smell!
My only gripes are simulation steering and and money shortcuts, especial with car tokens and 100% parts discount manufacturer affiliations.I know some people may appreciate the money shortcuts, but I like to work for my cars; it adds more spunk! Also I am sure that car tokens were forced onto Turn10 by Microsoft.
Overall, the game is one hell of a game. No game is perfect, but Forza 4 comes really damn close!👍
Overall, the game is one hell of a game. No game is perfect, but Forza 4 comes really damn close!👍
- 177
- Hawker77
- Hawker77
FM4 has a whole lot of camera views available in replays. The problem is, MOST of them are pretty crappy. Turn10, if you are reading this, take your replay camera ideas from iRacing. Their's are fantastic and give the user so much control. I know it's on a PC and that makes it easier, but still. What about a nice blimp cam view, or a real helicopter view that feels like you are flying in a helicopter chasing your car, instead of being "glued" to it? And a follow view that has zoom in/out, and floats rather than being attached to your car.
The TV replays need some work. Many times, the car will go past a track camera and I know the cars are quick, but it feels like the "cameraman" is lazy and doesn't try hard to keep up with the car and it goes out of frame. Also, I'd remove some of the dolly cams that follow cars on long straights and put track side cameras in their place, so it's more like a real TV replay.
I'm knit-picking... these are just some ideas. Don't get me wrong... I LOVE the game! Just want it to be even better. :-D
Thanks.
The TV replays need some work. Many times, the car will go past a track camera and I know the cars are quick, but it feels like the "cameraman" is lazy and doesn't try hard to keep up with the car and it goes out of frame. Also, I'd remove some of the dolly cams that follow cars on long straights and put track side cameras in their place, so it's more like a real TV replay.
I'm knit-picking... these are just some ideas. Don't get me wrong... I LOVE the game! Just want it to be even better. :-D
Thanks.
- 4,038
- United States
MagpieRacer
Premium
- 17,426
- Wymondham, Norfolk
- Seagull_Racer
I think he needs it one more time.
car tokens are optional.
car tokens are optional.
- 4,274
- New Zealand
- SkylineObsession
- Mangosaurus
My disappointments with the game;
- The cars are still not 100% accurate in appearance/dimensions (mind you, its probably so they don't spend six months making one car like PD).
I've seen many, many R32 GT-R's in person before, even driven some, and it still doesn't look right in Forza 4. I can't quite put my finger on why, but it seems it sits too high, the front lights are too tall, the guards aren't flared quite right and the rims look horrible and so on.
- Different exhausts don't change the sound on all/some cars like they used to (R32 Skyline sounds the same with each one).
- Less choices for engine swaps now (some cars that had three or four choices in FM3 now only have one or two).
- Tyre smoke has improved, but still could be better
- Race restrictions seem tougher, so less places to race fully modded cars other than perhaps Arcade mode (that i've noticed so far). I suppose this is to stop cheaters though, but i liked seeing the power difference between 100hp cars and a 900hp car.
- Like Gran Turismo, with each subsequent game it seems peak power outputs for some cars is getting reduced each time. Are they that blind to not notice the hundreds/thousands of 1000hp+ Skylines, Supras, Mustangs etc in real life? One of my gripes in GT as well.
- Handling still arcadey feeling compared to GT, but i kinda like that really so this isn't really a disappointment.
- Track elevations have been changed on some tracks, sometimes for the worst. Like that track at Almalfi or wherever. Used to be a big drop at the final corner before the start/finish line on one variation, now its flat and has been significantly widened.
- The stupid 'super stopping power' sand traps/grass verges etc are still there, making the game more arcadey. Time penalties work much better, or perhaps some other type of penalty should be used instead - like if you make up time/positions by cutting a corner then you'd need to pretty much get back to close where you were in the race order to still be able to win the race.
- Still not matte paint options.
- Some cars have been removed (Mine's Skylines etc)
- Heaps of Nissan JGTC's, but only one Honda and Toyota one?
- Still no bloody replays in two player mode!!
Thats about all i can think of now.
Although i really love GT games i also really like Forza as well. I do like FM4 and the graphics look pretty nice on some tracks (especially the new mountain track, the mountainy track from FM3 (looks so much better now - really impressive background) and the Fujimi hillclimb track.
Some cool new cars in the game, and the car sounds are usually more 'in your face' than GT's quiet sounding ones.
I really like how the trees and grass sway in the wind.
And yadda yadda.
- The cars are still not 100% accurate in appearance/dimensions (mind you, its probably so they don't spend six months making one car like PD).
I've seen many, many R32 GT-R's in person before, even driven some, and it still doesn't look right in Forza 4. I can't quite put my finger on why, but it seems it sits too high, the front lights are too tall, the guards aren't flared quite right and the rims look horrible and so on.
- Different exhausts don't change the sound on all/some cars like they used to (R32 Skyline sounds the same with each one).
- Less choices for engine swaps now (some cars that had three or four choices in FM3 now only have one or two).
- Tyre smoke has improved, but still could be better
- Race restrictions seem tougher, so less places to race fully modded cars other than perhaps Arcade mode (that i've noticed so far). I suppose this is to stop cheaters though, but i liked seeing the power difference between 100hp cars and a 900hp car.
- Like Gran Turismo, with each subsequent game it seems peak power outputs for some cars is getting reduced each time. Are they that blind to not notice the hundreds/thousands of 1000hp+ Skylines, Supras, Mustangs etc in real life? One of my gripes in GT as well.
- Handling still arcadey feeling compared to GT, but i kinda like that really so this isn't really a disappointment.
- Track elevations have been changed on some tracks, sometimes for the worst. Like that track at Almalfi or wherever. Used to be a big drop at the final corner before the start/finish line on one variation, now its flat and has been significantly widened.
- The stupid 'super stopping power' sand traps/grass verges etc are still there, making the game more arcadey. Time penalties work much better, or perhaps some other type of penalty should be used instead - like if you make up time/positions by cutting a corner then you'd need to pretty much get back to close where you were in the race order to still be able to win the race.
- Still not matte paint options.
- Some cars have been removed (Mine's Skylines etc)
- Heaps of Nissan JGTC's, but only one Honda and Toyota one?
- Still no bloody replays in two player mode!!
Thats about all i can think of now.
Although i really love GT games i also really like Forza as well. I do like FM4 and the graphics look pretty nice on some tracks (especially the new mountain track, the mountainy track from FM3 (looks so much better now - really impressive background) and the Fujimi hillclimb track.
Some cool new cars in the game, and the car sounds are usually more 'in your face' than GT's quiet sounding ones.
I really like how the trees and grass sway in the wind.
And yadda yadda.
- 738
- RaLpH89 / GTP_RaLpH89
It does have a little, but they didn't make it realistic. Also, they mix the car sound sample in the middle of the car instead of putting it separate in the exhaust and engine bay.
To make it simple, you're not supposed to hear the exhaust sound of the car if it's going towards you. You'll only hear it when it pass by.
Last edited:
- 10,403
- GTP_Spag69
- spagetti69
ralph89
interesting, what sound do you hear then?
- Status
