Forza Horizon 4 - Colour Creation Database (CONSTANT WORK IN PROGRESS) *READ FIRST POST*

[VXR]

Thank you @MadaraxUchiha it looks great.

 

[JaCor653]

Playboy Pink (Ford)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.00L, 0.24R, 0.70R

I took a look at this color myself, and here is the result:

Toreador Red (Ford, Lincoln, Mercury)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.97R, 0.94R, 0.34L
- Flake Color: 0.96L, 0.77L, 0.74R

McLaren Orange (McLaren)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.10L, 1.00R, 1.00R

I did this color previously, but I decided to re-do it once I found the paint sample on PaintRef.

Sicilian Yellow (McLaren)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.16L, 0.71R, 0.89L

Grove Green (Oldsmobile)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.47R, 1.00R, 0.24L

Mint Green (Oldsmobile)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.38R, 0.28L, 0.80R

Mojave Sand (Jeep, RAM)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.11L, 0.24R, 0.65L

 

[XnoodleX]

So I've got a really odd request, and them a couple regular ones XD. I grew up playing Test Drive for Amiga, and there was this incredible green color that I've only seen a real picture of the color once (on a 930). And even now I can't find that real picture...

That color is near and dear to my heart! <3

Then I've got the amazing Lotus Esprit Orange...

The legendary Miura's weird green yellow...

And finally Jay Leno's 3500GT...

Thanks in advance, you lovely person! ^__^; The Porsche one in particular will really make this gal's day! <3

 

[HyperSpeeder]

So I've got a really odd request, and them a couple regular ones XD. I grew up playing Test Drive for Amiga, and there was this incredible green color that I've only seen a real picture of the color once (on a 930). And even now I can't find that real picture...

That color is near and dear to my heart! <3

Then I've got the amazing Lotus Esprit Orange...

The legendary Miura's weird green yellow...

And finally Jay Leno's 3500GT...

Thanks in advance, you lovely person! ^__^; The Porsche one in particular will really make this gal's day! <3

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[XnoodleX]

Your images aren't showing up. Could you fix the formatting? Usual way of posting them is with tags like

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With tags like... o.o;
Do they show up for you now?

 

[HyperSpeeder]

With tags like... o.o;
Do they show up for you now?

Yes, they do!

Nice 911, I'm surprised the Amiga was capable of such graphics.

 

[JaCor653]

I had a look for green paint colors for the 930, and the closest color I could find to the color of the car @XnoodleX posted is Ice Green:

Most images show this as a more pale and desaturated green, but this image seems to match up pretty well with the screenshot from Test Drive. In the meantime, here are more colors:

Gold (Apollo)

Paint Type: Semigloss
- Paint Color: 0.11L, 1.00R, 0.83R

Apollo I. E. rim color

Purple Dragon (Apollo)

Paint Type: Carbon Fiber Polished
- Tint: 0.79L, 0.50L, 0.52L

Apollo I. E. body color

In my opinion this color scheme looks amazing, and it works very well on various supercars and hypercars.

Lime Essence (Aston Martin)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.18L, 0.83R, 0.96R

Raven Black (Ford)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.00L, 0.00L, 0.03L

Ford's Raven Black was called Black by Edsel, Tuxedo Velvet by Mercury, and Presidential Black by Lincoln. Ford also used the name Black, Edsel also used the name Jet Black, Lincoln also used the name Black and Black Satin, Mercury also used the names Black, Onyx, and Presidential Black, and Shelby also used the name Raven Black.

Bronze Powder (Ford)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.09L, 0.68R, 0.45R
- Flake Color: 0.09L, 0.59R, 0.90L

Deep Impact Blue (Ford)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.61L, 1.00R, 0.29R
- Paint Color: 0.63L, 0.99R, 0.88L

 

[XnoodleX]

Ice Green is TOTALLY IT! O__O; <3

 

[ParanoidDoge]

Thank you for the Junior GT Ochre ! Miles better than the one I tried to do

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

@JaCor653 I believe I have the values for Ice Metallic I’m starting the game now and I’m going to see how it turns out

@HyperSpeeder Your Deep Blue Pearl is uploading now If it’s off or something, I’ll redo it. I’ve been working on it for 20 minutes and using various reference pictures

I also did Bright Surf Green (Volkswagen)

Ice Metallic (Porsche)

Paint Type: Two-Tone Semigloss
- Base: 0.43L, 0.30R, 0.44L
- Highlight: 0.45L, 0.32R, 0.71L

Deep Blue Pearl (Volkswagen)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.64L, 0.77R, 0.31L
- Flake: 0.61L, 0.90R, 0.53L

Bright Surf Green (Volkswagen)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.43L, 0.73R, 0.52L
- Flake: 0.45L, 0.81R, 0.89L

Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.02L, 0.78R, 0.51L
- Flake: 0.06L, 0.84R, 0.95L

Daytona Sunset Orange Metallic (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.02L, 0.72R, 0.73L
- Flake: 0.04L, 0.71R, 0.96L

Atomic Orange Metallic (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.05L, 0.81R, 0.67L
- Flake: 0.09L, 0.91R, 0.95L

Sunset Orange (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.00L, 0.73R, 0.75L
- Flake: 0.08L, 0.50R, 0.98L

Summer Yellow (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.12L, 0.71R, 0.91L

Cranberry Red (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.00L, 0.75R, 0.84L

*Edit* ****, I just did Daytona Sunrise Orange, Cranberry Red, Victory Red and Atomic Orange without realizing they were all on the list already There's time I'll never get back again

@JaCor653 I need your help with this color because it's throwing me off. I'm not sure what kind of paint job it is, but it kinda looks like two-tone polished. It's Bermuda Blue Metallic (Chevrolet).

 

[JaCor653]

@JaCor653 I need your help with this color because it's throwing me off. I'm not sure what kind of paint job it is, but it kinda looks like two-tone polished. It's Bermuda Blue Metallic (Chevrolet).

I've sen this color in real life. I would say Two-Tone Polished would be the best option. It is kind of similar to MystiChrome or Mystic Teal. I'll take a look at it later today. Here are two images that I took of the color when I saw it:

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

Here are a few more colors

Still Night Pearl (Honda)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.67L, 0.80R, 0.36L
- Flake: 0.64L, 0.94R, 0.61L

Milano Red (Honda)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.96L, 0.98R, 0.84L

Formula Red (Honda)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.98L, 0.88R, 0.87L

New Formula Red (Honda)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.00L, 0.83R, 0.93L

Liberty Red (Honda)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.00L, 0.91R, 0.85L

Tripoli Turquoise (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.54L, 0.61R, 0.50L
- Flake: 0.54L, 0.71R, 0.71L

 

[HyperSpeeder]

@MadaraxUchiha I have no idea why this happens but when inputting your values for Deep Blue Pearl I got a dark navy blue with dark blue flake, which is somewhat different from what you posted and much different from what Deep Blue Pearl looks like IRL:

As you can see, Deep Blue Pearl is closer to plain dark blue (middleground between cyan and navy), with very bright, turquoise flake. I've had success cranking up flake brightness, increasing base color brightness a little, and moving both hues left in the chart, with no alteration to saturation.

IIRC I ended up with these values:

Metal Flake

Base:

H: 0.67L
S: 0.79R
B: 0.42L

Flake:

H: 0.54L
S: 0.92R
B: 0.71L

And here's what it looks like on my screen:

I'm in a hurry so it's not perfect but it's more or less like this, unfortunately due to the HDR the Xbox Live will desaturate and brighten the image, so it looks different here than in the game.

Incidentally your color strongly resembles the dark blue VW uses for the Golf R these days, so it could be a match for that one instead.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

@MadaraxUchiha I have no idea why this happens but when inputting your values for Deep Blue Pearl I got a dark navy blue with dark blue flake, which is somewhat different from what you posted and much different from what Deep Blue Pearl looks like IRL:

As you can see, Deep Blue Pearl is closer to plain dark blue (middleground between cyan and navy), with very bright, turquoise flake. I've had success cranking up flake brightness, increasing base color brightness a little, and moving both hues left in the chart, with no alteration to saturation.

IIRC I ended up with these values:

Metal Flake

Base:

H: 0.67L
S: 0.79R
B: 0.42L

Flake:

H: 0.54L
S: 0.92R
B: 0.71L

And here's what it looks like on my screen:

I'm in a hurry so it's not perfect but it's more or less like this, unfortunately due to the HDR the Xbox Live will desaturate and brighten the image, so it looks different here than in the game.

Incidentally your color strongly resembles the dark blue VW uses for the Golf R these days, so it could be a match for that one instead.

Like I said, if it's wrong I'll redo it, so I'll try doing it again. The problem I'm getting is the turquoise flake is overpowering the dark blue color. I just did it again and I'm waiting for the pics to upload. If it's wrong, I'm going to try two-tone polished because that might do it.

Now you'll see what I'm talking about. Here it is with turquoise:

Base: 0.64L, 0.78R, 0.29L
Flake: 0.53L, 0.69R, 0.97L

Here it is metal flake without turquoise:

Base: 0.66L, 0.74R, 0.51L
Flake: 0.66L, 0.91R, 0.85L

And finally, here it is two-tone polished without turquoise:

Base: 0.64L, 0.71R, 0.53L
Highlight: 0.62L, 0.82R, 0.90L

 

[JaCor653]

@MadaraxUchiha, here are my attempts at some of your more challenging colors:

Bermuda Blue Metallic (Cadillac, Chevrolet, General Motors, GMC, Hummer, Pontiac)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.63R, 0.61R, 0.20L
- Flake Color: 0.49R, 0.63L, 0.59L

Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.02R, 0.77L, 0.56R
- Flake Color: 0.06L, 0.92L, 0.98R

Daytona Sunset Orange Metallic (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.03R, 0.87R, 0.59L
- Flake Color: 0.07L, 0.87R, 0.79L

2015 Chevrolet Silverado University of Texas Edition

Regarding the discussion of Deep Blue Pearl, I believe that metal flake without turquoise is the most accurate.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

@MadaraxUchiha, here are my attempts at some of your more challenging colors:

Bermuda Blue Metallic (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.63R, 0.61R, 0.20L
- Flake Color: 0.49R, 0.63L, 0.59L

View attachment 870680

Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.02R, 0.77L, 0.56R
- Flake Color: 0.06L, 0.92L, 0.98R

View attachment 870681

Daytona Sunset Orange Metallic (Chevrolet)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.03R, 0.87R, 0.59L
- Flake Color: 0.07L, 0.87R, 0.79L

2015 Chevrolet Silverado University of Texas Edition

View attachment 870683

Regarding the discussion of Deep Blue Pearl, I believe that metal flake without turquoise is the most accurate.

You always impress me with your recreations Very good! Very good indeed So I’m having a new issue now and it’s with colors labeled ‘Pearl’. For the most part, a lot of the ‘pearl’ colors look like two-tone polished from the reference images. But when you do it in game, they look way different or off Here are some examples that are throwing me off:

Tonic Yellow Pearl (Honda)

This is one of those 'pearl' colors, but when I use metal flake, the color looks nothing like the reference pics, but when I use normal (gloss) paint, it does. Two-tone polished doesn't even come close for this one, either.

Ruby Red Pearl (Acura)

For this one, metal flake didn't work whatsoever, but two-tone polished seems to match the color quite well.

Chianti Red Pearl (Honda)

Same for this one. Two-tone polish catches the colors, but metal flake doesn't.

Cyclone Blue (Honda)

This color isn't a 'pearl' one, but a metallic paint. In order to match it the closest paint is two-tone semigloss because metal flake doesn't create this color accurately

@JaCor653 or @Mitcho2001 Your advice would greatly be appreciated because these kinds of colors I struggle with

 

[JaCor653]

It kind of seems like Honda in particular uses the "pearl" paint type in a unique way. Colors like Thermal Orange Pearl and Indy Yellow Pearl are definitely not two-tone polished, just because of how bright they are. Previously, you successfully did Thermal Orange as metal flake. Other Honda colors like Tahitian Green Pearl are also best done as metal flake. Others, such as Toxic Green Pearl or Helios Yellow Pearl would either be metal flake with matching base and flake calues, or gloss.

Also, I find it to be very odd that Daytona Sunset Orange is a brighter color that Daytona Sunrise Orange. Usually, in my experience, a sunrise is thought of as being brighter than a sunset. Maybe it's just because a sunrise leads to the brightness of day instead of the darkness of night. Chevrolet must have thought oppositely.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

It kind of seems like Honda in particular uses the "pearl" paint type in a unique way. Colors like Thermal Orange Pearl and Indy Yellow Pearl are definitely not two-tone polished, just because of how bright they are. Previously, you successfully did Thermal Orange as metal flake. Other Honda colors like Tahitian Green Pearl are also best done as metal flake. Others, such as Toxic Green Pearl or Helios Yellow Pearl would either be metal flake with matching base and flake calues, or gloss.

Also, I find it to be very odd that Daytona Sunset Orange is a brighter color that Daytona Sunrise Orange. Usually, in my experience, a sunrise is thought of as being brighter than a sunset. Maybe it's just because a sunrise leads to the brightness of day instead of the darkness of night. Chevrolet must have thought oppositely.

Daytona Sunset Orange is also an older color and Daytona Sunrise Orange is the newer one, but all of those colors seem very closely related.

Yeah, Honda’s way of using ‘pearl’ paints certainly is interesting, but it throws me off trying to figure out these colors.

 

[HyperSpeeder]

@MadaraxUchiha I'm sorry for late reply, IMO Two-Tone Polished is the way to go, looks better to me, but here's the thing... The colors are different in my smartphone, PC and TV, lol. And when I take screenshots they get desaturated even further.

My panel's HDR is pretty bad as well since it's a cheap one. Does the job, but weak contrast.

I agree, flake dominates the color, it's not very good for shifting colors. This VW blue is actually pearlescent, not metallic. If you google Deep Blue Pearl you'll see many photos in poor lighting with values closer to what you did, then in the sun you have a large difference between the dark and light areas. All of them still a notch left of navy in Forza's hue slider, though.

Ice Metallic is spot on, though.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

@MadaraxUchiha I'm sorry for late reply, IMO Two-Tone Polished is the way to go, looks better to me, but here's the thing... The colors are different in my smartphone, PC and TV, lol. And when I take screenshots they get desaturated even further.

My panel's HDR is pretty bad as well since it's a cheap one. Does the job, but weak contrast.

I agree, flake dominates the color, it's not very good for shifting colors. This VW blue is actually pearlescent, not metallic. If you google Deep Blue Pearl you'll see many photos in poor lighting with values closer to what you did, then in the sun you have a large difference between the dark and light areas. All of them still a notch left of navy in Forza's hue slider, though.

Ice Metallic is spot on, though.

See, that's what I've said a long time ago. I have a 4K UHD TV so colors on my tv look vibrant and vivid, but what you see looks completely different, and when I take screenshots they don't look like what my tv shows because they get desaturated. It's really dumb and makes creating colors hard.

Funnily enough, Ice Metallic looks almost exactly like another Porsche color I need to do, Ocean Jade Metallic. Ocean Jade Metallic was infamously known as 'the most hated Porsche color' at one time

I'm also working on Hot Orange, which is used on the 2011 Volkswagen Buggy Up Concept (I wish this car was in the game because it's pretty neat )

 

[Nacho Libre]

As a side note to this fine thread, after watching Jay Leno's YouTube show today I painted the EB110 in polished carbon fiber and whoa!

 

[VXR]

HDR in my experience is a waste of time; GT Sport in HDR on my Samsung 4K was way off with yellows and oranges, to the point where I gave up trying to calibrate it.

 

[Stankbug]

How 'r ya now?
I'd like to request Toyota's Rav4 color "Lunar Rock"
Please and thank you.

 

[HyperSpeeder]

I was looking at some multi-coat paints and I wonder how you guys haven't yet pulled all your hair from your heads... It's very difficult!

Regular metallic and colorshifting paints are 1:1 but Forza's support of anything more complex than that is mediocre at best.

HDR in my experience is a waste of time; GT Sport in HDR on my Samsung 4K was way off with yellows and oranges, to the point where I gave up trying to calibrate it.

Which model? Mine is the RU7100, which is the lowest of the low and features fake HDR. IIRC you only get true HDR in the more expensive models and even then it's divisive.

 

[VXR]

I was looking at some multi-coat paints and I wonder how you guys haven't yet pulled all your hair from your heads... It's very difficult!

Regular metallic and colorshifting paints are 1:1 but Forza's support of anything more complex than that is mediocre at best.



Which model? Mine is the RU7100, which is the lowest of the low and features fake HDR. IIRC you only get true HDR in the more expensive models and even then it's divisive.

It's meant to have HDR10, no idea what model. I've taken the PS4 back onto my 12 year old 1080p Toshiba with matte screen and those yellow and orange colours* instantly seemed much more natural. I'll be gutted when that TV dies, because it didn't feature gimmicks like game modes, just an honest, true picture.

*case in point, McLaren Orange was coming out like tangerine and Giallo Modena was like saturated lemon skin.

 

[drouid2]

has any1 done this dbs superlaggera yet? i like to have this color for the one in my garage...

its a james bond special edition.

i did a bit of searching and found out the color it uses is the same from the dbs in on her majesty's secret service... Olive Green. i checked the colour sheet posted on the front of the topic and it had olive metallic but it didnt match...

not to mention the dbs superleggara color from the new bond film. prob bit difficult to identify its color atm

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

I've been pretty busy today making a lot of colors I hope everyone enjoys them

Zinc Yellow (Ford)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.15L, 0.65R, 0.93L

Ruby Star (Porsche)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.92L, 0.75R, 0.90L

Atomic Orange (Nissan)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.06L, 0.83R, 0.95L

Solar Yellow (Nissan)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.13L, 0.78R, 0.90L

Solar Orange Pearl (Nissan)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.06L, 0.82R, 0.83L
- Flake: 0.08L, 0.58R, 0.98L

Aztec Red (Nissan)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 1.00L, 0.91R, 0.77L

Lightning Yellow (Nissan)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.12L, 0.84R, 0.95L

Active Red (Nissan)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.00L, 0.83R, 0.79L

Cloud White (Nissan)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.22L, 0.01R, 0.98L

Indy Red (Dodge)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.98L, 0.78R, 0.77L

Paprika Metallic (Dodge)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.01L, 0.61R, 0.42L
- Flake: 0.01L, 0.72R, 0.80L

Cement Gray (Toyota)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.50L, 0.03R, 0.46L

Cavalry Blue (Toyota)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.56L, 0.34R, 0.58L

Spectra Blue Mica (Toyota)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.62L, 0.79R, 0.47L
- Flake: 0.58L, 0.89R, 0.81L

Radiant Red (Toyota)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.99L, 0.86R, 0.87L

Firecracker Red (Jeep)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.99L, 0.89R, 0.88L

Baja Yellow (Jeep)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.12L, 0.93R, 0.96L

Crush Orange (Jeep)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.07L, 0.85R, 0.99L

Sarge Green (Jeep)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.19L, 0.34R, 0.31L

Tank Green (Jeep)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.19L, 0.21R, 0.25L

Competition Yellow (Hummer)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.13L, 0.94R, 0.93L

Firehouse Red (Hummer)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 1.00L, 0.87R, 0.69L

I've been making these colors since 9 in the morning

 

[ClydeYellow]

As requested by @drouid2...





Gold Pearl (Top Secret)
Paint Type: Metal flake
- Base: 0.12L, 0.57L, 0.69R
- Flake: 0.12R, 0.23L, 0.95L

Full livery is also available under filename "Fusion RR"

 

[drouid2]

As requested by @drouid2...





Gold Pearl (Top Secret)
Paint Type: Metal flake
- Base: 0.12L, 0.57L, 0.69R
- Flake: 0.12R, 0.23L, 0.95L

Full livery is also available under filename "Fusion RR"

awesome ty while i was waiting i decided to do the fusion rr as a white since it was available in that color too. one proob though u forgot to paint the trunk carbon fiber.

ps: u dont mind sharing the color u picked for the top secret blue oval decal? i tried to create it too. but mine is too bright

also i took a photo of it so u can search my username to see it in the horizon 4's photo gallery. not all the decals are mine so i cant exactly share the design

 

[Harmonik]

Could anybody do Mazda’s Aurora Blue Mica? I’d love it for my R3!