Forza Horizon 4 - Colour Creation Database (CONSTANT WORK IN PROGRESS) *READ FIRST POST*

[SidW7]

I'll have a go at working on these colours tomorrow. As for the duplicate values, they are placeholders for the time being with few of them being final. I have been recently meaning to go over them again before I can consider them to be "final" like the more recent values added.

And please if it's not (already) too much work, can you add these as well: "Liquid Kinetic Gray"and "Energetic Sigma Gold"
Those are the color or the Nissan GT-R50

 

[JaCor653]

And please if it's not (already) too much work, can you add these as well: "Liquid Kinetic Gray"and "Energetic Sigma Gold"
Those are the color or the Nissan GT-R50

I have those colors done. I'll post them later today.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

I have those colors done. I'll post them later today.

Also, I was wondering what’s the update on this big project you’re working on

 

[JaCor653]

Also, I was wondering what’s the update on this big project you’re working on

It's still a thing. I've been busy with school, work, and Borderlands 3. I'll have the project completed sometime in the fall week.

 

[JaCor653]

And please if it's not (already) too much work, can you add these as well: "Liquid Kinetic Gray"and "Energetic Sigma Gold"
Those are the color or the Nissan GT-R50

Liquid Kinetic Grey (Nissan)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.60R, 0.04L, 0.20R
- Flake Color: 0.62R, 0.03R, 0.46R

Energetic Sigma Gold (Nissan)

Paint Type: Two-Tone Semigloss
- Base Color: 0.08L, 0.63L, 0.43R
- Highlight: 0.09L, 0.42R, 0.95L

Since both colors are special colors, and thus, cannot be used on decals, I have developed a gloss version of Liquid Kinetic Grey so that Energetic Sigma Gold can be used as the base color. Here are the values:
- 0.61R, 0.04L, 0.33R

 

[KiroKai]

Grabber Lime (Ford, 2020 GT500)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.21R, 0.93R, 0.71L
- Flake: 0.19L, 0.78R, 0.88L

Awesome colour ideas in this thread! This one interests me because it looks close to McLaren's Napier Green, it's amazing on the 600LT I had recreated it greener for the 720S but this immediately looked closer. Could you create proper Napier Green? Since photo references vary greatly, this shows the hue pretty well.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

Awesome colour ideas in this thread! This one interests me because it looks close to McLaren's Napier Green, it's amazing on the 600LT I had recreated it greener for the 720S but this immediately looked closer. Could you create proper Napier Green? Since photo references vary greatly, this shows the hue pretty well.

I don’t have any room to save more colors sadly, but I did just do Napier Green and screenshot it The pics are uploading now and I’ll attach them when they’re ready I really hope Forza updates the amount of liveries we can do because 500 isn’t enough when there are more cars than that in the game and they keep adding more ‘-.-

Napier Green (McLaren)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.20L, 0.66R, 0.81L
- Flake: 0.20L, 0.66R, 0.81L

 

[KiroKai]

I don’t have any room to save more colors sadly, but I did just do Napier Green and screenshot it The pics are uploading now and I’ll attach them when they’re ready I really hope Forza updates the amount of liveries we can do because 500 isn’t enough when there are more cars than that in the game and they keep adding more ‘-.-

Napier Green (McLaren)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.20L, 0.66R, 0.81L
- Flake: 0.20L, 0.66R, 0.81L

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Thanks Seems accurate but a little desaturated in my game, did you copy wrong values by any chance? Since base and flake are also identical.

Agree about storage, it's so annoying to hit limits constantly! I've wasted hours sorting the garage and paints in FH3&4 and it means I think twice before buying and painting a car when freedom should be the whole point of these games. My hard drive should be the limit for storage.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

Thanks Seems accurate but a little desaturated in my game, did you copy wrong values by any chance? Since base and flake are also identical.

Agree about storage, it's so annoying to hit limits constantly! I've wasted hours sorting the garage and paints in FH3&4 and it means I think twice before buying and painting a car when freedom should be the whole point of these games. My hard drive should be the limit for storage.

Well, the game settings are desaturated, sadly I play the game on a 4K UHD TV and I have my tv on the vivid setting so it looks exactly like the pictures you recommended. I guess it depends on what your tv’s settings are. No, those are the right values of the car because it’s not two separate colors, it’s one color, just metal flake. On my tv, this is how it looks:

It’s also a lot brighter in direct sunlight in game.

 

[HyperSpeeder]

IIRC I have two or three clicks to the right in my "Color" setting. Color is a personal thing but I would recommend using more orthodox settings whenever possible. I wonder if this desaturation extends itself to other games?

I know for a fact FM7 lacks a fair bit of saturation as well. It's one of the criticisms directed at it. On the other hand, Gran Turismo looks like a cartoon. A middleground is appreciated.

I'd never paint any of my cars in Napier Green but the more, the merrier! Glad you had success with the Variochrome wrap from earlier.

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

Any chance of doing these one off whites

 

[HyperSpeeder]

These cabrio 488s in white look so badass.

This config might need a design to completely replicate, though.

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

These cabrio 488s in white look so badass.

This config might need a design to completely replicate, though.

Bottom one is a Speciale not a 488. I love the pearl white on them.

 

[GTvsForza]

Someone up for a challenge?

Fire Knight

 

[JaCor653]

This is the Paint Chip Cuda. It was a promotional car built by Plymouth in 1970 to show off Plymouth’s wide range of paint colors and accessories.​

Note: for the Paint Chip Cuda replica livery, I used gloss colors for all of the color strips, even though about two thirds of them are metallic.

Citron Gold Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.10R, 0.64L, 0.41L
- Flake Color: 0.09L, 0.60R, 0.74L

Citron Mist Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.11R, 0.43L, 0.51L
- Flake Color: 0.11L, 0.36L, 0.70R

Plymouth's Citron Mist is called Light Gold by Dodge. @MadaraxUchiha has since done the Dodge version.

Yellow Gold (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.12R, 0.32L, 0.86L

Plymouth's Yellow Gold is called Cream by Dodge and Antique Ivory and Champagne by Chrysler.

Sunfire Yellow (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.14L, 0.39R, 0.93R

Plymouth's Sunfire Yellow is called Yellow by Dodge; Chrysler also uses the name Sunfire Yellow.

Lemon Twist (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.15L, 0.88R, 1.00R

Plymouth's Lemon Twist is called Bright Yellow by Dodge. Chrysler, Dodge, and Plymouth also use the name Top Banana for the same color.

Black Velvet (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.00L, 0.00L, 0.00L

Plymouth's Black Velvet is called Black by Dodge and Formal Black by Chrysler.

Tor-Red (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.02R, 0.93L, 0.83R

Plymouth's Tor-Red is called Hemi Orange by Dodge. I had done this color prior to doing the Paint Chip Cuda colors. Chrysler also uses the name Tor-Red. For 1972, Plymouth also called this color Rallye Red.

Burnt Tan Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.07R, 0.54L, 0.39R
- Flake Color: 0.07R, 0.76L, 0.54L

Plymouth's Burnt Tan is called Dark Tan by Dodge and Deep Tan by Chrysler.

Sahara Tan Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.11L, 0.28L, 0.62R
- Flake Color: 0.11R, 0.24R, 0.87L

Plymouth's Sahara Tan is called Tan by Dodge and Satin Tan by Chrysler.

Scorch Red (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.01R, 0.77R, 0.49L

Plymouth's Scorch Red is called Red by Dodge and Crimson by Chrysler.

Frosted Teal Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.56R, 0.62L, 0.45R
- Flake Color: 0.54L, 0.45R, 0.85R

Plymouth's Frosted Teal is called Teal by Chrysler. Dodge does not use this color.

Sandpebble Beige (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.14R, 0.21L, 0.73L

Plymouth's Sandpebble Beige is called Beige by Dodge and Sandalwood and Navajo Beige by Chrysler.

Deep Burnt Orange Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.02R, 0.75R, 0.43L
- Flake Color: 0.03L, 0.80R, 0.70L

Plymouth's Deep Burnt Orange is called Dark Burnt Orange by Dodge. Chrysler also uses the name Deep Burnt Orange.

Burnt Orange Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.05L, 0.80R, 0.50L
- Flake Color: 0.05L, 0.70R, 0.80L

Plymouth's Burnt Orange is also used by Chrysler, with the same name.

Vitamin C Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.07L, 1.00R, 1.00R
- Flake Color: 0.08R, 1.00R, 1.00R

Plymouth's Vitamin C is called Go Mango by Dodge and Vitamin C Orange by Chrysler. @MadaraxUchiha has already done a version of Go Mango, but that is the modern version; the classic version is different.

Lime Light (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.25R, 0.74L, 0.92R

Plymouth's Lime Light is called Sublime by Dodge and Sub Lime by Chrysler.

Ivy Green Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.28L, 0.48R, 0.25R
- Flake Color: 0.24L, 0.46L, 0.38L

Plymouth's Ivy Green is called Dark Green by Dodge and Jade Green by Chrysler. In 1971, Chrysler also called this color Dark Green.

Lime Green Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.19R, 0.31R, 0.31R
- Flake Color: 0.20R, 0.27R, 0.53R

Plymouth's Lime Green is called Light Green by Dodge. Chrysler also uses the name Lime Green.

Rally Red (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.00L, 0.90R, 0.82L

Plymouth's Rally Red is called Bright Red by Dodge. Chrysler also uses the name Rally Red.

In Violet Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.74R, 0.80L, 0.45L
- Flake Color: 0.75R, 0.78L, 0.77L

Plymouth's In Violet is called Plum Crazy by Dodge. Chrysler also uses the name In Violet. In 1970 and 1971, Plymouth also called this color Plum Crazy. @MadaraxUchiha has already done a version of Plum Crazy, but that is the modern version; the classic version is different.

Jamaica Blue Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.60R, 0.74L, 0.46R
- Flake Color: 0.58L, 0.74R, 0.59R

Plymouth's Jamaica Blue is called Dark Blue by Dodge and Jubilee Blue by Chrysler.

Blue Fire Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.59R, 0.88R, 0.59R
- Flake Color: 0.56L, 0.73L, 0.97R

Plymouth's Blue Fire is called Bright Blue by Dodge. Chrysler also uses the name Bright Blue. Starting in 1971, the color wass called True Blue by Chrysler, True Blue by Dodge, and Brite Blue by Plymouth. Then, in 1974, all three manufacturers called the color Lucerne Blue.

Ice Blue Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.55L, 0.41L, 0.64L
- Flake Color: 0.56L, 0.40R, 0.87L

Plymouth's Ice Blue is called Light Blue by Dodge and Bahama Blue by Chrysler.

Silver Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base Color: 0.56R, 0.06R, 0.49R
- Flake Color: 0.28L, 0.01L, 0.90L

Plymouth's Silver is called Platinum by Chrysler. Dodge also uses the name Silver.

Alpine White (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.14L, 0.12L, 0.98R

Plymouth's Alpine White is called White by Dodge and Spinnaker White by Chrysler. Starting in 1972, the color is called Dover White by Dodge and Spinnaker White by Plymouth. Then, in 1973, Dodge renamed the color Eggshell White.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

This is the Paint Chip Cuda. It was a promotional car built by Plymouth in 1970 to show off Plymouth’s wide range of paint colors and accessories.​

Note: for the Paint Chip Cuda replica livery, I used gloss colors for all of the color strips, even though about two thirds of them are metallic.

Citron Gold Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.10R, 0.64L, 0.41L
- Flake: 0.09L, 0.60R, 0.74L

Citron Mist Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.11R, 0.43L, 0.51L
- Flake: 0.11L, 0.36L, 0.70R

Yellow Gold (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.12R, 0.32L, 0.86L

Sunfire Yellow (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.14L, 0.39R, 0.93R

Lemon Twist (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.15L, 0.88R, 1.00R

Black Velvet (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.00L, 0.00L, 0.00L

Tor-Red (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.02R, 0.93L, 0.83R

Burnt Tan Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.07R, 0.54L, 0.39R
- Flake: 0.07R, 0.76L, 0.54L

Sahara Tan Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.11L, 0.28L, 0.62R
- Flake: 0.11R, 0.24R, 0.87L

Scorch Red (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.01R, 0.77R, 0.49L

Frosted Teal Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.56R, 0.62L, 0.45R
- Flake: 0.54L, 0.45R, 0.85R

Sandpebble Beige (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.14R, 0.21L, 0.73L

Deep Burnt Orange Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.02R, 0.75R, 0.43L
- Flake: 0.03L, 0.80R, 0.70L

Burnt Orange Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.05L, 0.80R, 0.50L
- Flake: 0.05L, 0.70R, 0.80L

Vitamin C Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.07L, 1.00R, 1.00R
- Flake: 0.08R, 1.00R, 1.00R

Lime Light (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.25R, 0.74L, 0.92R

Ivy Green Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.28L, 0.48R, 0.25R
- Flake: 0.24L, 0.46L, 0.38L

Lime Green Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.19R, 0.31R, 0.31R
- Flake: 0.20R, 0.27R, 0.53R

Rally Red (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.00L, 0.90R, 0.82L

In Violet Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.74R, 0.80L, 0.45L
- Flake: 0.75R, 0.78L, 0.77L

Jamaica Blue Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.60R, 0.74L, 0.46R
- Flake: 0.58L, 0.74R, 0.59R

Blue Fire Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.59R, 0.88R, 0.59R
- Flake: 0.56L, 0.73L, 0.97R

Ice Blue Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.55L, 0.41L, 0.64L
- Flake: 0.56L, 0.40R, 0.87L

Silver Metallic (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Metal Flake
- Base: 0.56R, 0.06R, 0.49R
- Flake: 0.28L, 0.01L, 0.90L

Alpine White (Plymouth)

Paint Type: Normal (Gloss)
- Paint Color: 0.14L, 0.12L, 0.98R

Incredible! You’ve really outdone yourself recreating all of these, friend I’ll have to use one of them on my ‘Cuda Is this the big project you were talking about, perchance?

 

[JaCor653]

Incredible! You’ve really outdone yourself recreating all of these, friend I’ll have to use one of them on my ‘Cuda Is this the big project you were talking about, perchance?

Yes. Yes it is. I figured this would be right up this topic's alley.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

Yes. Yes it is. I figured this would be right up this topic's alley.

So if you don't mind me asking, what's your method for getting colors? Do you use the color picker tool or do something else? I ask because your replications are spot on

 

[JaCor653]

So if you don't mind me asking, what's your method for getting colors? Do you use the color picker tool or do something else? I ask because your replications are spot on

Well, I'll first say, some of my colors are not spot on. Considering the colors Citron Mist Metallic and Burnt Orange Metallic, there are no images of them on Google Images. I had to eyeball them based on other images I may or may not have seen or how they appeared on the actual Paint Chip Cuda.

In terms of getting colors, I use Chris Hill's Forza color picker (here), mixed with some eyeballing and common sense.

 

[MadaraxUchiha]

Well, I'll first say, some of my colors are not spot on. Considering the colors Citron Mist Metallic and Burnt Orange Metallic, there are no images of them on Google Images. I had to eyeball them based on other images I may or may not have seen or how they appeared on the actual Paint Chip Cuda.

In terms of getting colors, I use Chris Hill's Forza color picker (here), mixed with some eyeballing and common sense.

Interesting The way I get colors is I use a website called Tineye Color Extraction that takes an image and gives you the most used colors in that image with the RGB code, then I take the codes for the most used colors of the car source image and get the Forza HSB code on RGB.to I also use another color extraction website called Image Color Summarizer. It makes things so much easier instead of having to use the color picker tool.

 

[TheOE]

Mercedes AMG Jupiter Red
Type: Metal Flakes
Base: 0.99L 0.77L 0.76L
Flakes: 0.00R 0.84L 0.96R

Mercedes-Benz Indigo Blue (I hope its the right name, couldnt find it anywhere)
Type: Metal Flakes
Base: 0.56R 0.37L 0.87R
Flakes: 0.57R 0.22L 0.98L

 

[HyperSpeeder]

@JaCor653 Incredible!

Reminder that most of these were available for Dodges in other names, so they're more Mopar colors than just Plymouth.

I was gonna request In Violet/Plum Crazy, even though it's already available for the Cuda in the game, because it's such a beautiful color.

 

[JaCor653]

@JaCor653 Incredible!

Reminder that most of these were available for Dodges in other names, so they're more Mopar colors than just Plymouth.

I was gonna request In Violet/Plum Crazy, even though it's already available for the Cuda in the game, because it's such a beautiful color.

From what I found, Dodge and Plymouth actually different names for the same color. For example, Dodge had Plum Crazy and Plymouth had In Violet. Dodge had Sublime and Plymouth had Lime Light.

Since the souce car (the Paint Chip Cuda) was a Plymouth, I chose all Plymouth names.

 

[HyperSpeeder]

From what I found, Dodge and Plymouth actually different names for the same color. For example, Dodge had Plum Crazy and Plymouth had In Violet. Dodge had Sublime and Plymouth had Lime Light.

Since the souce car (the Paint Chip Cuda) was a Plymouth, I chose all Plymouth names.

I love the fact that, for the sake of completion, you included Velvet Black, which is just a solid black, in the photo shoot.

If you want a good source of nice-looking colors, look no further than vintage cars, especially American-built, and even more so Mopar.

 

[jstn_m]

So the individual color "Purple Silk" from BMW looks in my opinion way to pink. If you look at photos it's way more purple than what it is right now in the color sheet.
The photo shows my attempt, which I did by eyeballing:

EDIT: In direct sunlight itis way too bright. I just made it darker (outside pic):
Base: H:0,75R, S:0,55L, B:0,24R
Flake: H:0,80L, S: 1,00R, B: 0,19L

Metallic: (middle pic)
Base: Hue: 0,75R, Sat: 0,20L, Brightness: 0,35R
Flake: H: 0,80R, S: 0,50R, B: 0,40L
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[MadaraxUchiha]

So the individual color "Purple Silk" from BMW looks in my opinion way to pink. If you look at photos it's way more purple than what it is right now in the color sheet.
The photo shows my attempt, which I did by eyeballing:

EDIT: In direct sunlight itis way too bright. I just made it darker (outside pic):
Base: H:0,75R, S:0,55L, B:0,24R
Flake: H:0,80L, S: 1,00R, B: 0,19L

Metallic: (middle pic)
Base: Hue: 0,75R, Sat: 0,20L, Brightness: 0,35R
Flake: H: 0,80R, S: 0,50R, B: 0,40L
View attachment 856362View attachment 856360 View attachment 856361

So which is the correct color code? The one that says ‘Metallic’ or the one that says you made it darker?

 

[JaCor653]

So the individual color "Purple Silk" from BMW looks in my opinion way to pink. If you look at photos it's way more purple than what it is right now in the color sheet.
The photo shows my attempt, which I did by eyeballing:

EDIT: In direct sunlight itis way too bright. I just made it darker (outside pic):
Base: H:0,75R, S:0,55L, B:0,24R
Flake: H:0,80L, S: 1,00R, B: 0,19L

Metallic: (middle pic)
Base: Hue: 0,75R, Sat: 0,20L, Brightness: 0,35R
Flake: H: 0,80R, S: 0,50R, B: 0,40L
View attachment 856362View attachment 856360 View attachment 856361

Yeah, this is confusing for a number of reasons. Why are the pictures so small and blurry? If you you posted values, but later revised them, why didn't you remove the old values? Also, why go to the effort of recreating the picture? It is usually better to get the color to show properly in-game than it is to try to replicate a picture from another place with different lighting conditions.

 

[Gotbeefboy564]

Saw the car at the Chicago auto show here’s a picture I took of it if this helps.

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

Would anybody be able to recreate the special Boulder Opal Blue colored NSX from GT3? Sorry if the picture doesn't do it justice, but it's a vibrant medium blue that shifts to a slightly dark green.

 

[jstn_m]

Sorry for the bad post, I just started in this forum. So I took a new photo at Bamburgh castle, default settings, etc. Color was made by eyeballing, since I'm not a pro at this.
The second photo shows what "Purple Silk" currently is and to me it seems a bit too pink instead of purple.

Metallic:
Base: H:0,77L, S:0,49R, B:0,29R
Flake: H:0,80L, S: 0,51R, B:0,35L