Forza Horizon 4: General Discussion

[ManteoMax]

FH4 tends to add more cars based on their popularity on the wish list than Forza has in the past.

Somewhat, but I think there would be plenty of players who would complain they don't go by the wishlist count enough even when newer cars are selected. For the sake of numbers, non-FE/livery cars at launch versus added since launch:
Median Model Year (launch roster vs additions only): 2004 vs 2006
Median PI: 703 vs 744
PI 800+ % of set: 26% vs 41%. (Install through Series 22 inclusive: 30%)
It's harder to draw the line at what makes a realistic wishlist checklist. I only saw one request for the Napier-Railton out of nearly 10,000 models mentioned (or 1 out of roughly 4800 lists, which means the other 4799 users had reason to complain that it stole 'their' car's spot). The 6.5% of users who requested the Performante can be happy, but there are 80 or so cars (12%) in the game as of Series 22 that weren't specifically mentioned by anyone in the thread.

Another stat I look at is to group the game's car count by three-model-year increments. For each game, the year group with the largest number of cars is usually the three years prior to the game's launch date. As a percentage of total:
FM2: 33%
FM3: 25%
FM4: 29%
FH1: 26%
FM5: 21%
FH2: 23%
FM6: 19%
FH3: 18%
FM7: 17%
FH4: 16%

 

[phillgt2002]

Just add some new damn roads to the map, that’s when I’ll pick the game back up.

 

[strela]

Just add some new damn roads to the map

Is it a little bit unreasonable to expect a map expansion? I played a lot of open world car games and I can't remember any that changed the map somehow. Especially so long after release. And there's also a possibility that you would still play for just a few hours and nothing more if they added a bunch of roads.

 

[WanganDream]

I think this is what someone at PG was saying on streaming, that they don't do the act of expanding the main map because it would require all players to download a lot of data.
This is probably the reason why other games don't expand the main map as much.

 

[strela]

Another stat I look at is to group the game's car count by three-model-year increments. For each game, the year group with the largest number of cars is usually the three years prior to the game's launch date. As a percentage of total:
FM2: 33%
FM3: 25%
FM4: 29%
FH1: 26%
FM5: 21%
FH2: 23%
FM6: 19%
FH3: 18%
FM7: 17%
FH4: 16%

Never thought of it and it somehow make sense. A lot of players like FM4 car list the most. I believe it is also because the list featured a lot of modern cars. For the opposite reason I like FH4 car list the most.

They should go to NFS if they want supercars all day long, because that game has plenty.

It is really hard to beat FH4 car list in any category.
Hyper Cars 31x
Modern Super Cars 36x
Retro Super Cars 31x
Extreme Track Toys 43x
It looks a lot compare to others but it's still just 20% of the huge car list.

 

[RolexGTP]

Not for nothing we cant discredit FM7s car list, that not only had the most cars of any forza game but the most race cars too. The only disappointment was there was still many glaring omissions within that car roster. Despite having around 840 cars, several important race cars that was in FM6 was not carried over ( a few classic racers were also teased to be included in the game and never made it in). Also some car divisions like Forza GT and Forza P2 were too clumped together and when you broke it down even those had many missing race cars.

 

[breeminator]

It is really hard to beat FH4 car list in any category.
Hyper Cars 31x
Modern Super Cars 36x
Retro Super Cars 31x
Extreme Track Toys 43x
It looks a lot compare to others but it's still just 20% of the huge car list.

I'd like to see the LMP1, F1 and NASCAR cars from FM7. I don't think they'd be any more out of place in FH4 than the #94 VW.

 

[Nielsen]

On the map subject, I sometimes wonder if the modelled landscape behind the lake stretching up into the highlands was originally intended as a playable area, but eventually sacrificed to release the game on the annual schedule Forza followed at the time. The area looks pretty complex for something out of playable reach with the river running through etc. Go to one of the mountain peaks and look to the west if you don't know what area I'm referring to. I imagine it could have been a cool part of the map with emphasis on harshness and wilderness, standing in contrast to fertile lands and moorlands we got. Oh well...

 

[WanganDream]

Well, I found an interesting comment by @TheAdmiester on reddit.
According to his comments, the game file for FH4 also includes Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 7.
Maybe we'll even get this car in the future.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Well, I found an interesting comment by @TheAdmiester on reddit.
According to his comments, the game file for FH4 also includes Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 7.
Maybe we'll even get this car in the future.

The Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 7? You mean...THE, Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 7 from GT3? Like this one?

*Heavy Breathing Intensifies*

 

[TheAdmiester]

Yup:

I missed it because first time I looked I didn't realise there were two Is in the normal map.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Yup:
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I missed it because first time I looked I didn't realise there were two Is in the normal map.

*Insert Faint.gif here*
No, FREAKING, way! Are you serious!? How did they acquire it? That is awesome!!

Thank you for sharing, you made my day! I love the fact that we're getting Mitsubishi cars and rare ones at that. Let's go!

 

[WanganDream]

Wow!
Of course, we haven't yet been guaranteed that they will definitely add this car to the game. But this is good news!

 

[-Fred-]

I'd personally much rather see an early EVO than a 3rd Cedia-platform model...

 

[L8 Apex]

I'd personally much rather see an early EVO than a 3rd Cedia-platform model...

Or the "other" Mitsubishi Evo...

 

[Nacho Libre]

https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/360047202574-FH4-Release-Notes-May-5th-2020

 

[strela]

Fixed an issue with the 2007 Formula Drift #117 599 GTB Fiorano where wheel screws were not being painted correctly​

I can see a lot of players rage about this fix while so many issues weren't fixed yet. "we didn't asked for it!"

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

Is the update out?

 

[ManteoMax]

Look for the content after 11:59pm Pacific today (8am London)

 

[buickgnx88]

Or the "other" Mitsubishi Evo...

One of those vehicles that makes perfect sense in a Forza Horizon game that is not yet included!

 

[WanganDream]

I've already voted for this car, but if there are more votes really the Pajero Evolution might be an addition.
There are already multiple imports of this car into the U.S., some of which appear to be factory stock. That means there will be no issues with coverage and scanning.

 

[L8 Apex]

One of those vehicles that makes perfect sense in a Forza Horizon game that is not yet included!

The licensing issue that forced FH4 to ship without any Mitsubishis probably means it'll be even longer until we see it (if we see it at all).

 

[Apple Slipper]

Or the "other" Mitsubishi Evo...

I would LOVE this Pajero Evolution to come to Forza! Could go well with the Nissan Safari/Patrol!

 

[ManteoMax]

The Series 22 content update is available now. Horizon Promo car count: 691.

 

[ALAN ULTIMATE]

Sweet!

 

[WanganDream]

Pulsar, Puma, and 205 Rallye.
I can't wait to get my hands on one of these cars!

 

[willbsn13]

 

[TheOE]

I‘ve made a little artwork of what Forza Horizon could look like if it would be in Japan

 

[VXR]

No rally kit is a big surprise.

 

[BlazeTheCat05]

No rally kit is a big surprise.

Yeah, not even the Forza one, PG? Ah well. At least the car's finally here!