Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

[WanganDream]

The Porsche 959 is listed as having new rally parts but I can't find anything different about it. Otherwise all the other cars get some form of spotlights/bashbar/roof vent/mudflap combo. Nothing incredibly exciting.

They are wrong 959 to list. The correct listing is 1985 #185 959.

Now that I have checked all the rally kits on all the models, here are my impressions.

Good : some cars have new designed rally parts. Also, several cars have extensive combinations of bash bars and light pods, etc.

Bad: they are basically generic parts. And all widebody cars except Focus can hardly use widebody kit and rally kit together.

My favorites are the Alpine A110 and the Subaru BRZ. The rally kits for these two cars look great.

Spoiler alert: list of all rally kits.

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*The list also includes rally kits that were included prior to the update for some models.

• 2017 Alpine A110 ...Dual fog bumper/mud flaps/roof vent
• 1985 Ford RS200 Evolution ...Mud flaps/round light pod
• 1970 Ford GT70 ...Bash bar/mud flaps/round light pod
• 2017 Ford M-Sport Fiesta RS ...Round light pod/double light bar
• 2017 Ford Focus RS (can be used with widebody kit) ...Bash bar/mud flap/round light pod/double light bar
• 2016 Honda Civic Coupe ...Round light pod/double light bar
• 1978 Hoonigan Ford Escort RS1800 ...Dual fog bumper/bash bar/bash bar & dual fogs/bash bar & dual fogs & Forza bumper/mud flap
• 1986 Hoonigan Ford RS200 Evolution ...Mud flap/round light pod
• 1991 Hoonigan Gymkhana 10 Ford Escort Cosworth Group A ...Mud flaps/round light pod
• 1994 Hoonigan Ford Escort RS Cosworth 'Cossie V2' ...Round light pod
• 2016 Hoonigan Gymkhana 10 Ford Focus RS RX ...Round light pod/double light bar
• 1992 Mazda 323 GT-R ...Bash bar/mud flap/roof vent/round light pod/roof vent & round light pod
• 1986 MG Metro 6R4 ...6 light pods
• 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR/GSR WP (only hood and spare tire are available with wide body kit) ...Bash bar/mud flap/spare tire/patrol lights (blue) & mud flap/patrol lights (yellow) & mud flap/spare tire & mud flap/roof vent/round light pod/roof vent & round light pod
• 1990 Nissan Pulsar GTI-R ...Bash bar/mud flap/roof vent/round light pod/roof vent & round light pod
• 1984 Opel Manta 400 ...Bash bar/mud flap
• 2007 Peugeot 207 Super 2000 ...Bash bar/mud flap/old round light pod
• 1985 Porsche #185 959 Prodrive Rally Raid (*959 road car is wrong) ...Bash bar & light pod/round light pod
• 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi ...Bash bar/spare tire/mud flap/old style round light pod/roof vent/roof vent & old style round light pod/round light pod/roof vent & round light pod
• 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI ...Bash bar/Mud flap//Roof ventilator/Round light pod/Roof ventilator & round light pod
• 2013 Subaru BRZ (*Not for use with widebody kit) ...Round light pod/mud flap/roof ventilator
• 2019 Subaru STI S209 (*Only spare tire is available with widebody kit) ...Mud flap/bash bar/mud flap & bash bar/spare tire/roof vent & round light pod
• 1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205 ...Round light pod/mud flap/roof vent
• 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution ...Round light pod/bash bar/bash bar & round light pod/mud flap/roof vent

 

[-Fred-]

Anti-lag works very well on the older cars like the F40 Competizione, it's actually impressive. Not quite as noticeable on newer cars but still does what it says on the tin. Not available on diesel engines, it has to be pointed out.

 

[Stang616]

Seems like people on steam are already able to play the Expansion already. Anyone here tried it yet?

Are they actively playing or just getting a cinematic when they open the game? I think Hot Wheels did the same thing before you could play the expansion. Either that or they changed the time on their PC maybe? Not worth risking a ban to test.

 

[Edax 76]

Seems like people on steam are already able to play the Expansion already. Anyone here tried it yet?

Still downloading. Rural South Oxfordshire isn't known for its internet speeds unfortunately 😂😂

 

[pez2k]

Seems like people on steam are already able to play the Expansion already. Anyone here tried it yet?

The update appears to have been rolled back on Steam as of about 7pm UK time. It's downloaded the expansion map, but none of the new features are present in the version that's currently live.

 

[nukleabomb]

Are they actively playing or just getting a cinematic when they open the game? I think Hot Wheels did the same thing before you could play the expansion. Either that or they changed the time on their PC maybe? Not worth risking a ban to test.

Actively playing. I tried it on win store version but it plays the cinematic you mentioned and takes me to the store page. Here are a few screenshots of people playing:

 

[Beebo]

Maybe it'd be wise to wait a little bit, def don't wanna risk nuking my save.

 

[RYAN]

just started the game now. No update features or DLC access for me so far yet. Don't mind not having the DLC access early as it seems some people have been blocked out of the game or messed their saves by playing it.

I was looking forward to doing some Anti-Lag stuff and check out the new update though so thats a shame.

 

[CarbonDaimon]

just started the game now. No update features or DLC access for me so far yet. Don't mind not having the DLC access early as it seems some people have been blocked out of the game or messed their saves by playing it.

I was looking forward to doing some Anti-Lag stuff and check out the new update though so thats a shame.

anti lag is available in the main game.

 

[RYAN]

anti lag is available in the main game.

Like I said. It wasn't when I loaded the game up. Some of the update features haven't shown up for some people yet. I checked for the New Wide Body Kits and Anti-Lag. I'm a bout to try again now the football has finished, Hopefully be available.

Edit: Nope not available. A dev just posted this on Steam.

Interestingly enough, I can play the base game like before the update or DLC fine probably because I didn't touch any of the DLC when it was available for the short time. Some people have to wait until tomorrow to be able to launch the game again.

I thought it was strange that my update was 31GB and not the 15 like others on here.

 

[-Fred-]

Is it just me or the flames coming out of the exhaust have been downgraded graphically?

 

[The_Greaser]

It hasn't been updated for me too. On a Series S.

 

[Edax 76]

Is it just me or the flames coming out of the exhaust have been downgraded graphically?

On a Series X and yes the flames do look downgraded but not by a great deal. It's not as bad as the magnetic track surface downgrade on the Hot Wheels DLC.

 

[turk1993]

Is it just me or the flames coming out of the exhaust have been downgraded graphically?

Yeah the flames with the anti lag upgrade looks worse even on pc maxed out.

 

[Edax 76]

I've hit a strange snag. Since the update I can't change my tuning set ups on my Jesko. Every time I try to change the tune the game crashes back to the Xbox dashboard. Is this happening to anyone else?

 

[Beebo]

I saw some posts on reddit mentioning crashes when doing exactly that on Series X, so it might be a specifically series X problem.

I've hit a strange snag. Since the update I can't change my tuning set ups on my Jesko. Every time I try to change the tune the game crashes back to the Xbox dashboard. Is this happening to anyone else?

 

[Edax 76]

I saw some posts on reddit mentioning crashes when doing exactly that on Series X, so it might be a specifically series X problem.

Oh poo. I'm on a Series X too. So far touch wood it's only happened on the Jesko thankfully. Really appreciate the info bud 👍

 

[McLaren]

I think this is the 1st Season I'm definitely excited for all the new cars and to jump back into the game. Really like the Rimac, the Caddys are great additions, but most certainly love seeing the LC500 get love from this franchise.

 

[Vic Reign93]

I've hit a strange snag. Since the update I can't change my tuning set ups on my Jesko. Every time I try to change the tune the game crashes back to the Xbox dashboard. Is this happening to anyone else?

Yep, Me and a guy in our club had the same thing happen and we’ve traced it to the rims being bugged and appears to be affecting all tunes made before the update.

How did we know this?

When we bought new parts for any tuned car, we noticed the price in the parts basket was different to the final price.

That difference in price was conveniently the same price the rims we already had on our cars.

See what I mean?
That difference in price is the exact amount the rims on that car cost.🧐

I saw some posts on reddit mentioning crashes when doing exactly that on Series X, so it might be a specifically series X problem.

The guy I mentioned I believe is on PC so i’m not 100% certain on that on that one.

 

[Edax 76]

Yep, Me and a guy in our club had the same thing happen and we’ve traced it to the rims being bugged and appears to be affecting all tunes made before the update.

How did we know this?

When we bought new parts for any tuned car, we noticed the price in the parts basket was different to the final price.

That difference in price was conveniently the same price the rims we already had on our cars.

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See what I mean?
That difference in price is the exact amount the rims on that car cost.🧐

The guy I mentioned I believe is on PC so i’m not 100% certain on that on that one.

Oh great. Cheers bud. That's a bloody strange bug. Hopefully they'll be able to hotfix this quickly.

 

[Turboteg90]

2 things ive noticed so far. Turbos are slightly louder and the sense of speed is way better.

 

[L8 Apex]

More departures from Playground Games:

Lighthouse Games Emerges as Forza Horizon Dev Team Separates

More Senior members of the Playground Games development team have left the Forza Horizon studio to create a new games company, Lighthouse Games.

www.racedepartment.com

 

[RageRacer]

What the heck is going on? Why are they leaving? Have they realized that Horizon 5 can be somewhat stale or something?

 

[Moglet]

Like I said. It wasn't when I loaded the game up. Some of the update features haven't shown up for some people yet. I checked for the New Wide Body Kits and Anti-Lag. I'm a bout to try again now the football has finished, Hopefully be available.

Edit: Nope not available. A dev just posted this on Steam.

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That first reply is hilarious, some people are absolutely wild.

Anyway I've been enjoying the update so far on Series X, I can't say I've noticed a reduced quality of exhaust backfire but the anti-lag is a lot of fun, it fits really well with drag builds and it was cool to see lots of players lined up at the festival drag strip testing their cars with it engaged, producing pops and bangs filling the area. I have experienced a weird issue where entering a drag event disabled the launch control for all cars that had anti-lag fitted, a game restart was the only way to fix it, but so far this update has been pretty good for me. I'm excited to get stuck into the actual expansion today!

 

[nukleabomb]

That first reply is hilarious, some people are absolutely wild.

Anyway I've been enjoying the update so far on Series X, I can't say I've noticed a reduced quality of exhaust backfire but the anti-lag is a lot of fun, it fits really well with drag builds and it was cool to see lots of players lined up at the festival drag strip testing their cars with it engaged, producing pops and bangs filling the area. I have experienced a weird issue where entering a drag event disabled the launch control for all cars that had anti-lag fitted, a game restart was the only way to fix it, but so far this update has been pretty good for me. I'm excited to get stuck into the actual expansion today!

Biggest thing i have noticed is that all the dragstrips are absolutely loaded with people (especially in Anti Lag Supras). Game feels extremely lively all of a sudden.
Also It seems like LC drops off at about 35 mph, meaning all the rwd cars with loads of power (everything from a 720s to a Venom F5) with need TC or extreme throttle control and a little bit of short shifting to drag race. It is definitely much better than before. Seems like it is a minor improvement for AWD cars so far.

 

[Moglet]

Biggest thing i have noticed is that all the dragstrips are absolutely loaded with people (especially in Anti Lag Supras). Game feels extremely lively all of a sudden.
Also It seems like LC drops off at about 35 mph, meaning all the rwd cars with loads of power (everything from a 720s to a Venom F5) with need TC or extreme throttle control and a little bit of short shifting to drag race. It is definitely much better than before. Seems like it is a minor improvement for AWD cars so far.

There were a lot of high powered Supras at the drag strip when I played and it was very satisfying to beat them in a lower powered (no engine swap) Pulsar GTI-R simply because I could put the power down and they couldn't.

 

[The_Greaser]

That first reply is hilarious, some people are absolutely wild.

Which proves that the Steam forums aren't good either when it comes to Forza. 'punish players to your mistake' that's hilarious.

Slightly off-topic: This similar process happens with ETS2, I can't go 5 minutes on any given blogpost on a rework or patch without complaints that parts of the map are old (and yes that includes your country - the UK - as it hasn't changed since 2012) and becomes a constant. I get it, reworking a map takes time and resources. As it stands they're going to finalize Switzerland and several German cities. Can understand why it's lots of work and research. Also kept seeing comments pleading the devs to release the Russian DLC, which I won't bore you into details because reasons.

As for the rest of PG's staff leaving, Rage seems right. FH5 has been... different lately. Stagnant, perhaps?

 

[Beebo]

Biggest thing i have noticed is that all the dragstrips are absolutely loaded with people (especially in Anti Lag Supras). Game feels extremely lively all of a sudden.
Also It seems like LC drops off at about 35 mph, meaning all the rwd cars with loads of power (everything from a 720s to a Venom F5) with need TC or extreme throttle control and a little bit of short shifting to drag race. It is definitely much better than before. Seems like it is a minor improvement for AWD cars so far.

Geez yeah, I played last night after the update and it feels more lively a little bit of everywhere. I'm seeing more players than unusual.

Also, did they change the standard quattro's mudflaps to be colored instead of dark grey? I'm sure they were grey before.

 

[Populuxe]

I had very little time to play last night, so I built a Volvo 242 rally car. Yumpin’ yiminee!

 

[sw3g005]

As for the rest of PG's staff leaving, Rage seems right. FH5 has been... different lately. Stagnant, perhaps?

If it's an exodus like this, something tells me it isn't the game that's the problem but the company. Then whether it's company structure, the company's relationship with Microsoft, even work culture, I don't know.

Speaking of ETS2 though... I'd argue the game's open betas are proof that PG could release cars after their dedicated series without losing "player engagement". Why? Simple - early access is a surprisingly powerful thing. ETS2 open betas attract a bunch of players, even ones who aren't very interested in bug reporting simply cuz they get to enjoy some of the perks of the upcoming update (map reworks, new gameplay features etc) early. If PG added playlist cars in a latter series through say wheelspins (if not the series directly after, maybe the one after that?), I would not be surprised if a similar phenomenon occurs, with player engagement for the series being impacted very little (if at all) and with players being able to access cars that they couldn't get their hands on in time maybe it'd quell atleast some of the negativity around the game. Sounds like a win-win situation in my book.