Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

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PG had the very same text and post-car-pass paid DLC packs in FH3 and FH4 though. It's not new and the wording on the premium Edition is very clear.
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That's why I started the paragraph with "Even though the Premium Edition does clearly spell out what's in it and makes no mention of future add-on DLC packs,".

It's not difficult to see that some people may have thought they were buying the all-inclusive edition and feel that, for the sake of a measly fiver, this new pack should be in it though, surely?

The fact that there isn't a version of the game (and FH5 is far from the first, last, or only example of this) that is all-inclusive is just a symptom of modern gaming. People kicking off about it might be wrong in terms of facts (the Premium Edition never said it would include everything) but are at least showing some kind of resistance to this practice; there's just not enough of them any more to make a difference.
 
I'm a Premium Edition owner--while it sucks that we're at the end of that coverage, and possibly close to the end of 5's new content stream, I'm actually cool with the $5 price point. I feel like if it were those same cars for $10 or gods forbid $15, I'd be more cautious, but if these cheaper car packs mean more of those highly requested cars can get in without jeopardizing whatever themes Playground has planned for future updates, then so be it.
 
Famine
The fact that there isn't a version of the game (and FH5 is far from the first, last, or only example of this) that is all-inclusive is just a symptom of modern gaming. People kicking off about it might be wrong in terms of facts (the Premium Edition never said it would include everything) but are at least showing some kind of resistance to this practice; there's just not enough of them any more to make a difference.
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The biggest bugbear for me is that physical copies don't have the full base game on disc; as you explained, FH5 isn't the only one, in fact the vast majority of games I own for the One/Series X are the same (with MWII being the most hilarious, with the disc holding a whopping 2GB of content for a 100+ gig game). This isn't a problem for right now, but what happens in 15 - 20 years when the servers with the game's updates are no longer there and something happens to my Series X or whatever newer console is backwards compatible?

Microsoft have done great strides to ensure that legacy content across older consoles is accessible on newer stuff, and I think they'll continue to do that, but there is always that slight worry when thinking about this kind of thing that dampens the experience. GT7 will become a paperweight when they've decided they're done with it (unless you really love Music Rally), and FH5 has single player but the bulk of the actual content requires a download from a server which may or may not exist at some point. Sure, 99% of your player base will have moved on, but it just feels like the dev's work is kind of gone to waste.
 
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Barbie cars, weird.
 

FH5 Release Notes: June 20th, 2023

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Series 22 Release Notes​

New Features (Available from June 20th)​

  • Horizon Test Track
    • Also available in Co-Op
  • 15 Test Track Accolades
  • 5 Test Track Badges
  • ASL/BSL Language for Donut Media @horizon story cinematics
  • 27 Rims
    • Modulare B15 Evo
    • Modulare B30
    • Modulare B37
    • Modulare B38
    • Modulare B9
    • Modulare D15
    • Modulare D18
    • Modulare D30
    • Modulare D31
    • Modulare D32
    • Modulare D35
    • Modulare D37
    • Modulare D9
    • Modulare M19
    • Modulare S9
    • Fikse 802
    • Fikse FC305
    • Fikse FC307
    • Fikse Profil 10
    • Rotiform AeroDisc 'TightMesh'
    • Rotiform AeroDisc 'Digi Camo'
    • Rotiform AeroDisc 'The Void'
    • Rotiform AeroDisc 'Checkered'
    • Rotiform AeroDisc 'Splash'
    • Rotiform AeroDisc 'Branded'
    • Rotiform AeroDisc 'Donuts'
    • Rotiform AeroDisc 'Dino Nugs'
  • New engine audio for the 2003 Nissan Farilady Z
  • 6 Donut Media Car Horns

"Upgrade Heroes" Series Features (Available from June 22nd until July 20th)
  • Donut Media Story HiLow (permanently unlocked after June 22nd)
  • 20 Donut Media HiLow Story Accolades
  • Evolving World: Donut Media Merch stalls
  • Evolving World: Mechanic Tank Piñata collectible
  • 1 Accolade "Upgrade Heroes Collector"

Unlockable cars
  • 5 Festival Playlist Reward Cars (Available from June 22nd onwards)
    • 2020 Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series
    • 1991 GMC Syclone
    • 1992 GMC Typhoon
    • 2009 Mercedes-Benz SL 65 AMG Black Series
    • 2023 Formula Drift #64 Forsberg Racing Nissan Z
  • 4 Donut Media HiLow Reward Cars (Available from June 22nd)
    • 2003 Nissan Donut Media 350Z ‘High Car’
    • 2004 Nissan Donut Media 350Z ‘Low Car’
    • 1996 Formula Drift #51 Donut Media Nissan 240SX
    • 1994 Ford Supervan 3 ‘Donut Media Edition’

Horizon Racing Car Pack cars (Available from June 20th through Car Pack purchase)
  • 2023 Lotus Emira
  • 2021 Forsberg Racing Nissan 'Altimaniac'
  • 2022 Pagani Huarya R
  • 2020 Saleen Sportruck XR Black Label

Bug fixes ​

General
  • Fixed an issue where the game client could crash after receiving an invisible "DLC Car DLC Car" generic message through player gifting (Bug ID 3896802)
  • Fixed an issue where sometimes Traction Control was getting reactivated upon restarting an EventLab race from the finishing scoreboard (Bug ID 3891099)
  • Fixed an issue where sometimes the UI was showing an incorrect number of smashed Bonus Boards (Bug ID 3873073)
  • (Console) Fixed an issue with Steering Wheels where the default value for the Steering Rotation was incorrectly set (Bug ID 3890381)
  • Fixed an issue in the Eliminator where sometimes the timeout bar wasn't showing the correct values and players were getting eliminated earlier than intended (Bug ID 3887455)
  • Fixed an issue where certain cosmetic items were incorrectly marked as available through Wheelspins (Bug ID 3887454)
  • Fixed an issue where sometimes offroad tyres were incorrectly mounted on players' cars in Donut Media Story (Bug ID 3895799)
  • Fixed an issue where the Photo Mode camera could clip with the player's character model placed outside of the vehicle (Bug ID 3892792)
  • Fixed an issue in Horizon Promo where Alejandra's truck appears twice (Bug ID 3896196)
  • Fixed an issue in Photo Mode where player's character might disappear after saving a preset (Bug ID 3890074)
  • Fixed an issue with Logitech G920 Steering Wheel where Quick Chat Phrases were not being displayed when selecting them on a Wheel's D-pad in events and in Freeroam (Bug ID 3071918)
  • Improved replication of ghosting during anti-griefing measures (Bug ID 3866821)
  • General performance and stability fixes
Cars
  • Fixed an issue with the 2021 Audi RS6 Avant steering wheel where the shift paddles were inverted and media controls were incorrectly displayed (Bug ID 3895860)
  • Fixed an issue with missing anti-lag pop animation on the 2010 Volkswagen Golf R while using the APR Performance wide bodykit (Bug ID 3892642)
  • Fixed an issue with misplaced anti-lag pop animation on the 1993 Nissan Skyline GTR when the Sports Rear bumper was installed (Bug ID 3892640)
  • Fixed an issue with missing anti-lag pop animation while Rocket Bunny wide bodykit was installed on the 1998 Nissan Silvia Ks, 2003 Nissan Fairlady Z and the 1994 Nissan 240SX (Bug IDs 3892600, 3892601, 3892602)
  • Fixed an issue with anti-lag pop animation clipping on the 2015 Lamborghini Huracàn while the Duke Dynamics wide bodykit was installed (Bug ID 3892596)
  • Fixed an issue with anti-lag pop animation clipping on the 2014 BMW M4 while the StreetFighter LA wide bodykit was installed (Bug ID 3892457)
Accolades
  • Fixed an issue where the "Racing Champion" accolade wasn't unlocked for some players despite completing the challenge (Bug ID 3887453)
  • Blue Suit and Mexico Race gloves can be obtained through Test Track accolade (Bug ID 3893896)
    • Developer's Notes: Horizon Test Track Accolades can be found in the Creatives category
 
Which came first? Barbie's four-seat C1 Corvette, or Akio's four-seat C1 Corvette from Revolutionary Girl Utena?

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A perfect summation of that scene.
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all these 2 cars of barbie the gm is the owner, if the third is the cadillac eldorado other gm owner, and the barbie has a eldorado (gm is the owner of gmc, chevrolet and cadillac)
 
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Famine
Even though the Premium Edition does clearly spell out what's in it and makes no mention of future add-on DLC packs, it's easy to see why some players are pissed about it. They bought what they thought was the complete version of the game, and it's not; they need to pay another $5 to get it (and who's to say there's not more of these in the future?) on top of whatever the Premium Edition cost in the first place.
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I was neutral towards this whole situation, but the toxicity from some of the pro-DLC side is making me think that, yes, they really could have thrown a 5 dollar car pack into the premium/ultimate edition. Some going as far as to say everybody that's a bit sad about the pack not being included is a "whiner". It's not everybody of course, but that's a strikingly common take.

Oh, off that topic but I really hope those barbie cars aren't paid because I would totally rock that pink vette!
 

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