Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

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The MC20 has got to be in this update now!
You joke, but it's actually the best chance for it, going by the title. If this update's theme was "0-60 Legends" (cars with 0-60 times of under 5 seconds), then this one probably would be Track Racing All-Stars.
 
When is this car pack available to purchase? I really want to get my hands on that Ginetta.
 
I'm gonna guess the MC20 until it actually shows up lol. Gotta be right once.
Honestly same, I don't care if I look like I'm huffing copium, this is probably where the MC20 is gonna be at if it's anywhere at all. :P

News post is live! https://forza.net/news/forza-horizon-5-Horizon-Race-Off

The Ginetta in the Acceleration Car Pack has been confirmed as the 2019 Ginetta G10 RM, effectively a 'remaster' of the G10.

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So that is now 6 straight series of car packs (if we count Series 28/29 as one, since there was only one update for them)

If we go back to Series 22, we've had 8 car packs in 10 series.

Crazy amount of car content being added, and I think it's clear the shift PG has made in car content delivery for FH5

Essentially the car packs are funding the updates. PG getting an additional guaranteed revenue stream each month helps subsidize the free content coming to the game, and that has been significantly better since the introduction of car packs.

I mean we've had these added in the past 7 series alone, it's a pretty nice list - coming from what the EOL FH4 updates were, and the early FH5 series updates were, these are much much big and better IMO in terms of cars. A lot more models coming and a lot of them being New-to-Forza as well.

Series 25: Horizon Creatives
2023 BMW M2 (Series 25 Reward Car)
2022 BMW iX xDrive50 (Series 25 Reward Car)
2022 BMW i4 eDrive40 (Series 25 Reward Car)
2021 BMW M3 Competition Sedan (Series 25 Reward Car)
1995 BMW 850CSi (Series 25 Reward Car)
2024 Chevrolet Corvette E-Ray (FM Cross-Promotion Car)
2022 Rivian R1S (Series 25 Reward Car)
2022 Rivian R1T (Series 25 Reward Car)

Series 26: Dia de Muertos
2022 Ford Bronco Raptor (Series 26 Reward Car)
2023 Meyers Manx 2.0 (Series 26 Reward Car)
2010 Nissan Tsuru (Series 26 Reward Car)
1951 Porsche 356 SL Gmünd Coupé (Series 26 Reward Car)

Series 27: American Automotive
2023 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (Series 27 Reward Car)
1966 Chevrolet Nova Super Sport (Series 27 Reward Car)
1962 Lincoln Continental (Series 27 Reward Car)
2024 Lucid Air Sapphire (Series 27 Reward Car)
1964 Plymouth Belvedere (Series 27 Reward Car)
1968 Pontiac Firebird (Series 27 Reward Car)
1969 Pontiac GTO Judge (Series 27 Reward Car)
2010 Rossion Q1 (Series 27 Reward Car)

Series 28: Winter Wonderland
2023 Aston Martin Valkyrie (Series 28 Reward Car Secret Santa)
2022 Gordon Murray Automotive T.50 (Series 28 Reward Car Secret Santa)
2009 Lotus 2-Eleven (Series 28 Reward Car)
2000 Lotus 340R (Series 28 Reward Car)
2019 Morgan Aero GT (Series 28 Reward Car)
2022 Subaru BRZ (Series 28 Reward Car)

Series 29: Community Choice
2008 Aston Martin DBS (Series 29 Reward Car)
1969 FIAT Dino 2.4 Coupe (Series 29 Reward Car)
2006 Koenigsegg CCX (Series 29 Reward Car)
2011 McLaren 12C Coupe (Series 29 Reward Car)
1967 Mercedes-Benz 280 SL (Series 29 Reward Car)
2012 Pagani Huayra (Series 29 Reward Car)
2016 Spania GTA Spano (Series 29 Reward Car)
2016 W Motors Lykan Hypersport (Series 29 Reward Car)

Series 30: Lunar New Year
2022 Hyundai IONIQ 6 (Series 30 Reward Car)
2022 Hyundai Kona N (Series 30 Reward Car)
2020 Hyundai i30 N (Series 30 Reward Car)
2022 Lynk & Co 02 Hatchback (Series 30 Reward Car)
2022 MG MG7 (Series 30 Reward Car)

Series 31: European Automotive
2022 Aston Martin Valkyrie AMR Pro (Series 31 Reward Car)
1975 DS Automobiles 23 (Series 31 Reward Car)
1968 Lancia Fulvia Coupé Rallye 1.6 HF (Series 31 Reward Car)
2002 Lotus Esprit V8 (Series 31 Reward Car)
2021 Mercedes-AMG SL 63 (Series 31 Reward Car)
1992 Mercedes-Benz 500 E (Series 31 Reward Car)
2021 Volkswagen ID.4 (Series 31 Reward Car)
1966 Volkswagen Double Cab Pick-Up (Series 31 Reward Car)

Series 32: Horizon Race-Off
2020 Audi TT RS Coupe (Series 32 Reward Car)
2024 Ford Mustang GT (Series 32 Community Goal Reward Car)
2023 Ford F-150 Raptor R (Series 32 Community Goal Reward Car)
2003 Ford Mustang Cobra SVR (Series 32 Reward Car)
2020 Jaguar F-Type SVR Coupe (Series 32 Reward Car)
2023 McLaren Artura (Series 32 Reward Car)

So while I do get the car pack complaints, if it's resulting in more & better cars coming to everyone in the Festival Playlist, then keep them coming!
 
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So that is now 6 straight series of car packs (if we count Series 28/29 as one, since there was only one update for them)

If we go back to Series 22, we've had 8 car packs in 10 series.

Crazy amount of car content being added, and I think it's clear the shift PG has made in car content delivery for FH5

Essentially the car packs are funding the updates. PG getting an additional guaranteed revenue stream each month helps subsidize the free content coming to the game, and that has been significantly better since the introduction of car packs.
If I may play devil's advocate: This might not necessarily have been strong enough to completely fund all of these. The Car Vouchers were added in December, so some evergreen MTX had to be taken into account to ensure you didn't have Series like American Automotive or Winter Wonderland.

But I think it makes sense; two months after these first came to the game, we got the Tsuru, a car that, by PG's own admission, was apparently quite difficult to source. We might not have a good idea of how long car models take to develop, but there's definitely a strong case for the car packs helping out.
 
If I may play devil's advocate: This might not necessarily have been strong enough to completely fund all of these. The Car Vouchers were added in December, so some evergreen MTX had to be taken into account to ensure you didn't have Series like American Automotive or Winter Wonderland.

But I think it makes sense; two months after these first came to the game, we got the Tsuru, a car that, by PG's own admission, was apparently quite difficult to source. We might not have a good idea of how long car models take to develop, but there's definitely a strong case for the car packs helping out.
Yeah that's a fair point, the car vouchers definitely help in this equation as well, and probably provide small revenue stream that further subsidizes costs.

Who knows how many car packs they sell and how profitable they are, but the correlation is pretty clear IMO. And the additional revenue definitely helps, for sure.

Speaking of car vouchers, I'm surprised they haven't added more cars straight into the Autoshow (or past exclusives) after the introduction of them tbh.
 
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Yeah that's a fair point, the car vouchers definitely help in this equation as well, and probably provide small revenue stream that further subsidizes costs.

Who knows how many car packs they sell and how profitable they are, but the correlation is pretty clear IMO. And the additional revenue definitely helps, for sure.

Speaking of car vouchers, I'm surprised they haven't added more cars straight into the Autoshow (or past exclusives) after the introduction of them tbh.
Yeah; especially since a lot of the reward cars being added back into the Autoshow were expensive enough to warrant the use of vouchers in the first place, to say little of the vintage Le Mans cars they added for... I think it was Winter Wonderland? Either way, it's odd that they aren't doing that again, when they have data from the Suggestions Hub to show that people actually really like the idea of adding past exclusives to the Autoshow; maybe they figured the Takeover and community challenge would be enough, but then you look at the Hard-to-Find cars this Series and it's all... very early Year One stuff that could have been easy Autoshow addition fodder, like the Gallardo Spyder?
 
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Didn't they say it's from the KR?

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Never mind, that's the first bumper option.
 
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Only a glorified facelift, with minor styling differences (as mentioned in my opinionated thoughts about this series)
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2018: https://www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=298907
2020: https://www.igcd.net/vehicle.php?id=341516
A quiz that's more difficult than spotting the visual differences between Huracan/Aventador variants and easier than spotting the visual differences between the (insert 3 random numbers and 2 random letters of the alphabet here) series McLaren and current 911 GT(n) series...
 
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Dang it, sorry Famine! Need to respect your work more often.
Don't worry, I was just having mild fun :lol:
I'm afraid he even scooped you on the Ginetta G10 RM news.
What's interesting is that the car doesn't actually appear to exist. Ginetta announced it in 2019 buuuut hasn't made any yet. It's slated for a debut this year, but not in the original form; Ginetta's decided to make it less of a toolroom copy/continuation and more a restomod in the spirit of the original.

Meanwhile the original concept car is...

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I literally can't even with any of that.
 
I haven't bothered with any of the car packs sinçe the Italian one I think, but this one looks worth picking up. The Sabre is a nice new McLaren to go with the Artura (still hoping the Elva eventually makes an appearance) and I saw the Supervan at Goodwood a few years back and think it looks quite cool and looked quite quick.
 
A quiz that's more difficult than spotting the visual differences between Huracan/Aventador variants and easier than spotting the visual differences between the (insert 3 random numbers and 2 random letters of the alphabet here) series McLaren and current 911 GT(n) series...
Unfortunately it looks like filler content regarding car families is still going strong. In FM23 we just got a 86 TRD SE which is not worth a space on the car pass as it has the same customization options as the older models, and is just a glorified facelift with a TRD trimpieces and pinstripe.

I dread this kind of issue, and while I wouldn't fully complain in most cases, maybe I'm fine with stuff like this if they looked a bit different. Terminator Mustang is a great example of a good variant of the Mustang variety.
 
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So that is now 6 straight series of car packs (if we count Series 28/29 as one, since there was only one update for them)

If we go back to Series 22, we've had 8 car packs in 10 series.

Crazy amount of car content being added, and I think it's clear the shift PG has made in car content delivery for FH5

Essentially the car packs are funding the updates. PG getting an additional guaranteed revenue stream each month helps subsidize the free content coming to the game, and that has been significantly better since the introduction of car packs.

I mean we've had these added in the past 7 series alone, it's a pretty nice list - coming from what the EOL FH4 updates were, and the early FH5 series updates were, these are much much big and better IMO in terms of cars. A lot more models coming and a lot of them being New-to-Forza as well.

So while I do get the car pack complaints, if it's resulting in more & better cars coming to everyone in the Festival Playlist, then keep them coming!

One has to wonder if the existence of Crew Motorfest has made PG up their game a bit as well. Competition is a good thing, and you love to see it. Plus they probably know Motorfest is coming out on Steam on 4/18 too.

On a different note hopefully Apex Takeover gives us not only the new Maserati but maybe the new Civic as well? Seems like this is the type of update that would be good for that car.
 
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There's not.
Guessing PG decided not to include it on their own, considering the Eleanor lawsuit was settled in favor of Shelby. Maybe it would have cost too much, or they figured folks would rather make GT350s than Eleanors.
 
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One has to wonder if the existence of Crew Motorfest has made PG up their game a bit as well. Competition is a good thing, and you love to see it. Plus they probably know Motorfest is coming out on Steam on 4/18 too.

On a different note hopefully Apex Takeover gives us not only the new Maserati but maybe the new Civic as well? Seems like this is the type of update that would be good for that car.
The Crew Motorsport is clearly their biggest competitor right now which is good because even though I think The Crew did bite a little bit off of FH its still has its own identity. I like how FH just slaughters its competiton in car roster count alone. Over 830 cars now and counting if im correct which is wild.
 
What's interesting is that the car doesn't actually appear to exist. Ginetta announced it in 2019 buuuut hasn't made any yet. It's slated for a debut this year, but not in the original form; Ginetta's decided to make it less of a toolroom copy/continuation and more a restomod in the spirit of the original.
Yeah, I'm almost wondering if this is part of a marketing partnership with Ginetta. Small percentage of proceeds from the car pack go towards production of the restomod, maybe. Hasn't been unusual for restomods to be part of these, after all.
 
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