Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

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I think that cultural representation is also a major factor in deciding where to locate the games, and Colorado (USA), France/Italy, Australia, UK, and Mexico were represented as very laid-back and fun locations (lawless but also harmless). Sorry, but for the tone of the game, China, Korea and Japan have no chill.
 
I think that cultural representation is also a major factor in deciding where to locate the games, and Colorado (USA), France/Italy, Australia, UK, and Mexico were represented as very laid-back and fun locations (lawless but also harmless). Sorry, but for the tone of the game, China, Korea and Japan have no chill.
Germany also falls under that "laid-back and fun" umbrella, I figure--after all, you'd be able to scream down the Autobahn at over 300 MPH in a hypercar, or hoon across the Swiss Alps or the Hurtgen Forest in a Group B monster, either of your own creation or from the annals of history. Maybe not as much as Mexico was (which is something I kind of hold against FH5's depiction of Mexico--I remember the country being typecast as the land of fiesta and tacos when I was a kid, and Ramiro always embodied that side of the country to me), but maybe getting closer to the relatively chill vibes I get from FH4's Britain.
 
Germany also falls under that "laid-back and fun" umbrella, I figure--after all, you'd be able to scream down the Autobahn at over 300 MPH in a hypercar, or hoon across the Swiss Alps or the Hurtgen Forest in a Group B monster, either of your own creation or from the annals of history. Maybe not as much as Mexico was (which is something I kind of hold against FH5's depiction of Mexico--I remember the country being typecast as the land of fiesta and tacos when I was a kid, and Ramiro always embodied that side of the country to me), but maybe getting closer to the relatively chill vibes I get from FH4's Britain.
Well as a Mexican I'm grateful for Playground Games by depicting a much cleaner and safer version of my home country that gets the geography and urban/rural/weather/road features right (minus the pollution and poor road maintenance we currently have), so I really don't mind if Ramiro sounds like a U.S. born 2nd or 3rd generation dude. And we are a land of fiesta/taco (and much more), just not at all times!
 
Hah, fair enough! :P Either way I'd welcome Germany as a setting, it seems like it'd fit in just fine with the rest of Horizon--if not moreso than anything else I'd have imagined, Nordic countries aside.

Speaking of, though, a friend of mine has informed me that it's considerably more likely that the German license plates ended up in that archive (and thus, apparently, Mexico becoming the setting of FH5) because of difficulties securing the license to the specific font those plates use, FE-Schrift, which is very tightly protected and only licensed out to German authorities and contractors that serve the German government, and because PGG was apparently unable to really replicate it accurately. If true, we may have been bamboozled.
 
I've been trying to get the Millionaire Accolade in which you need to bank a million skill points, how did you guys get it?

I'm using a Hoonigan Cossie with a maxed out skill tree and going around the dunes area just smashing through everything whilst drifting.
My strategies are :
1. Use any drift/stunt cars, i think i used Hoonicorn for that challenge
2. Go to skill tree and make sure the car have these specific skills available: x7 score multiplier, The skill that allowed you to crash twice before losing points and the one that increase the skill chain ending timer by 1 or 2 seconds
3. Go to runway on the southwest of the map
4. Tune in the classical radio. A skill song increase your multiplier by 2x and the classical radio have a longer skill song
5. Drift and smash objects near the runway till you get enough points
 
I've been trying to get the Millionaire Accolade in which you need to bank a million skill points, how did you guys get it?

I'm using a Hoonigan Cossie with a maxed out skill tree and going around the dunes area just smashing through everything whilst drifting.
The Hoonigan RS200 is also great for this--since it's smaller and lighter it can get air much more easily, and its acceleration is unreal. I remember I actually got mine with the Bugatti Veyron, since hypercars can achieve Ultimate Speed and Ultimate Near Miss skills much easier than any other car class in the game. You'll still have to hope for a Skill Song, but the double skill chain multiplier that comes with those persists even after the song is over, so you only need one.
 
I've been trying to get the Millionaire Accolade in which you need to bank a million skill points, how did you guys get it?

I'm using a Hoonigan Cossie with a maxed out skill tree and going around the dunes area just smashing through everything whilst drifting.
If I need a bunch of points I normally start off at the solar panel farm southeast of the festival site, then cross the highway and smash as many trees as I can during a classical skill song.
 
...I still suspect that the Slayer was left out of DeBerti's representation in FH5 because of a stubborn prior owner--though this suspicion largely depends on its model ID in the files, so it may be invalid.

The C10 is very, very new, it's nowhere near any of the other Deberti-tuned cars so it was probably a fairly recent plan to add it (perhaps within the last 12 months at most).

Speaking of, though, a friend of mine has informed me that it's considerably more likely that the German license plates ended up in that archive (and thus, apparently, Mexico becoming the setting of FH5) because of difficulties securing the license to the specific font those plates use, FE-Schrift, which is very tightly protected and only licensed out to German authorities and contractors that serve the German government, and because PGG was apparently unable to really replicate it accurately.

I don't think this theory makes much sense simply because the Horizon games have never really made any effort to have real numberplate fonts. FH5 doesn't even try to make them look like Mexican plates, they're just a generic black on yellow EU-sized plate carried over from FH4 and a generic black on white US-sized plate depending on the car.

It's also worth pointing out that the zip in question isn't where the license plate materials are (it's not even for vehicle textures), so whatever it is it's not set up for use as a plate.
 
I missed the c10 but did get 17 points. There’s just 4 daily challenges still active but won’t complete after multiple attempts and even console restarts.

Annoying.
 
My strategies are :
1. Use any drift/stunt cars, i think i used Hoonicorn for that challenge
2. Go to skill tree and make sure the car have these specific skills available: x7 score multiplier, The skill that allowed you to crash twice before losing points and the one that increase the skill chain ending timer by 1 or 2 seconds
3. Go to runway on the southwest of the map
4. Tune in the classical radio. A skill song increase your multiplier by 2x and the classical radio have a longer skill song
5. Drift and smash objects near the runway till you get enough points
Like TRG55, I´ve been using a maxed out Hoonicorn drifting up and down the abandoned air strip during a skill song on radio eterna

Hah, fair enough! :P Either way I'd welcome Germany as a setting, it seems like it'd fit in just fine with the rest of Horizon--if not moreso than anything else I'd have imagined, Nordic countries aside.

Speaking of, though, a friend of mine has informed me that it's considerably more likely that the German license plates ended up in that archive (and thus, apparently, Mexico becoming the setting of FH5) because of difficulties securing the license to the specific font those plates use, FE-Schrift, which is very tightly protected and only licensed out to German authorities and contractors that serve the German government, and because PGG was apparently unable to really replicate it accurately. If true, we may have been bamboozled.
I would love to have Germany as the next setting for FH6. Being the birthplace of the car and having so many car manufacturers it would be a good choice car culture wise. We would have a proper winter season with snow and maybe they could put a real race track in the map🤔 Hockenheim, Sachsenring or Nürburgring 🤩 Maybe as a DLC. One can dream 😏
 
I would love to have Germany as the next setting for FH6. Being the birthplace of the car and having so many car manufacturers it would be a good choice car culture wise. We would have a proper winter season with snow and maybe they could put a real race track in the map🤔 Hockenheim, Sachsenring or Nürburgring 🤩 Maybe as a DLC. One can dream 😏
Considering this would likely be the first Horizon to use ForzaTech, and presumably an upgraded off-road driving model, having a proper winter season would be a real boon if they can pull it off. As for actual racetracks... It's a real possibility; I could see the main Festival Site centering around one like Mexico's did, but even that Festival Site was built on a small airstrip in order to further the whole idea of it being more of a jumping off point for the 'Horizon adventure' aspect, just like the outposts are. It'll be interesting to see what happens there, for sure.
 
I got the Millionaire Accolade earlier, used a Hoonicorn Mustang with a maxed out skill mastery, I used the outside of the stadium and just drove around several times smashing into everything, I had Eterna on and the second song that played was a skill song so I got lucky there! I got a just over 1.5 million skill score.

Thanks to everyone for their advice.
 
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It's hilarious getting downvoted on the Forza Horizon subreddit for saying that "these are the cars from FH1 that aren't in FH5". Did my research and everything.

The user responded to me by saying "a lot of these cars are in FH5". Then tell me whether there's a Toyota FJ Cruiser TRD Package or a Lamborghini Reventon Roadster is in FH5 then.

I swear, some users there downvote correct research and upvote incorrect responses.
 
It's hilarious getting downvoted on the Forza Horizon subreddit for saying that "these are the cars from FH1 that aren't in FH5". Did my research and everything.

The user responded to me by saying "a lot of these cars are in FH5". Then tell me whether there's a Toyota FJ Cruiser TRD Package or a Lamborghini Reventon Roadster is in FH5 then.

I swear, some users there downvote correct research and upvote incorrect responses.
Hah, honestly Reddit is quite the sourpuss of a community. But, seeing this post did remind me, I need to get my Mid-Series Prediction together!

I'm sticking with the Modern American Muscle focus for this one. As much as I realize that, yes, there is an outside chance of German GTs coming in, with it looking more likely that we won't be getting FH6 at the Developer Direct it's about the only option we have left. So...

Future Muscle Legends (or, Modern Horizons: Muscle Car Edition)
Summer: 2025 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (At this point, we're due for a 2025 car to ring in Year Four in earnest, and the new ZR1 is the perfect fit--at this point, after seeing it in thumbnails and the occasional DeMuro video, I don't doubt that it's been scanned already. 1000 HP, probably pushing it into S2, high top speed to rival the low-end hypercars--if this thing cracks Headline Car I wouldn't be surprised, but we've also had the E-Ray in that slot before, so take with a grain of salt.)
Autumn: 2021 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 (The post-facelift sixth-gen Camaro is exactly the sort of New-to-Forza car you'd expect in an update like this, a sidegrade to an existing car already in the Autoshow. For added meme potential this could also be the 2019 Camaro with its apparently ugly front end, but I doubt this would be the case.)
Winter: 2022 Hennessey Venom 1200 (Probably a better fit in Track Toys, but we've absolutely been overdue for this thing ever since Hennessey accidentally leaked it. Yeah it's another Mustang but this one can allegedly push 300 MPH, so who cares, raw top speed memes.)
Spring: 2023 Dodge Challenger Hellcat Widebody (Moved this down here with the new prediction because it's not as remarkable. But, you could still reasonably play this as a muscle car loud enough to wake the neighbors, so it wouldn't surprise me if it made it in with this update.)
 
Hah, honestly Reddit is quite the sourpuss of a community. But, seeing this post did remind me, I need to get my Mid-Series Prediction together!

I'm sticking with the Modern American Muscle focus for this one. As much as I realize that, yes, there is an outside chance of German GTs coming in, with it looking more likely that we won't be getting FH6 at the Developer Direct it's about the only option we have left. So...

Future Muscle Legends (or, Modern Horizons: Muscle Car Edition)
Summer: 2025 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (At this point, we're due for a 2025 car to ring in Year Four in earnest, and the new ZR1 is the perfect fit--at this point, after seeing it in thumbnails and the occasional DeMuro video, I don't doubt that it's been scanned already. 1000 HP, probably pushing it into S2, high top speed to rival the low-end hypercars--if this thing cracks Headline Car I wouldn't be surprised, but we've also had the E-Ray in that slot before, so take with a grain of salt.)
Autumn: 2021 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 (The post-facelift sixth-gen Camaro is exactly the sort of New-to-Forza car you'd expect in an update like this, a sidegrade to an existing car already in the Autoshow. For added meme potential this could also be the 2019 Camaro with its apparently ugly front end, but I doubt this would be the case.)
Winter: 2022 Hennessey Venom 1200 (Probably a better fit in Track Toys, but we've absolutely been overdue for this thing ever since Hennessey accidentally leaked it. Yeah it's another Mustang but this one can allegedly push 300 MPH, so who cares, raw top speed memes.)
Spring: 2023 Dodge Challenger Hellcat Widebody (Moved this down here with the new prediction because it's not as remarkable. But, you could still reasonably play this as a muscle car loud enough to wake the neighbors, so it wouldn't surprise me if it made it in with this update.)
My only question is whether they put one of the Hot Wheels Legends Tour award winners in this update. I could easily see the P1800 Gasser in this update, even though a Volvo isn't a prototypical "muscle car," per se.

2023: Mazda Miata "Chimera"
2022: Mazda Autozam "Texas Toot" (If we get this in FH6, and the game is in Japan or another Asian country, the people will love it.)
2021: Volvo P1800 Gasser
2020: Firebird (FH5 Series 23)
2019: The Nash (FH4 carpack/FH5 Series 9)
2018: 2JetZ (FH4 carpack/FH5 Series 9)
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This was the 2024 winner, La Liebre, out of Chile, which uses the chassis of a 60s South American-market Ford Falcon, which will be great once we get it for FH7!
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This was the 2024 winner, La Liebre, out of Chile, which uses the chassis of a 60s South American-market Ford Falcon, which will be great once we get it for FH7!
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I actually think this might have made for a neat addition for this update--if its "headlights" weren't clearly painted on. It's been a while since I've played, let alone used the Gumout stock car, so I don't know if they've ever handled that on any car, but other than that I don't know how they can resist a Latin American award winner that you don't have to necessarily license to include.
 
maybe they could put a real race track in the map🤔 Hockenheim, Sachsenring or Nürburgring 🤩
That would be cool but it just doesn't seem likely to happen at this point unfortunately, as they have already had some opportunities to do this.

I thought FH3 was the perfect time to make an accurate Surfer's Paradise/Gold Coast street circuit for the game. PG could work with T10 to co-develop the track area just like they seem to with cars (sometimes anyway...), and then port it over to FM7 later when it was released as the Motorsport side has always been a bit short on street circuits.

It shares workload for some content that will benefit both games and provides more real-world appeal to people outside of regular "gamers" to check the titles out. It also might further promote crossover between the existing playerbases, as Horizon players could go into Motorsport with some familiarity with at least one circuit, and Motorsport players would definitely check out Horizon to see the track that is going to be ported over and get some early recon in.

Seems logical to me, although yeah I know licensing complications don't seem to have much room for logic. Also I'm sure there would be some extra work needed to port it over from one title to the other, but surely having things like pit buildings, scenery and all that already done would save a bunch of hours of work.

Would love to see Sachsenring as it's pretty underrated I think, but the only other German track I'd have much specific interest in is Bilster Berg. Oschersleben is just okay, Norisring is kinda boring, Lausitzring kinda sucks but I guess would be versatile both as a road course and oval.
 
I actually think this might have made for a neat addition for this update--if its "headlights" weren't clearly painted on. It's been a while since I've played, let alone used the Gumout stock car, so I don't know if they've ever handled that on any car, but other than that I don't know how they can resist a Latin American award winner that you don't have to necessarily license to include.
Another random thought: the Gasser could also be why we haven't seen the normal Volvo 1800E in FH5 or FM23. But yeah I know the decals can be taken off of the stock car. I added a 90s style Mark Martin Valvoline livery before Ford did the headlight decals to the front of their cars around the 1998 season. But it's inconsistent with some of the cars in FM that are decaled up in the front fascia in whether they can be taken out or not.
 
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My only question is whether they put one of the Hot Wheels Legends Tour award winners in this update. I could easily see the P1800 Gasser in this update, even though a Volvo isn't a prototypical "muscle car," per se.

2023: Mazda Miata "Chimera"
2022: Mazda Autozam "Texas Toot" (If we get this in FH6, and the game is in Japan or another Asian country, the people will love it.)
2021: Volvo P1800 Gasser
2020: Firebird (FH5 Series 23)
2019: The Nash (FH4 carpack/FH5 Series 9)
2018: 2JetZ (FH4 carpack/FH5 Series 9)
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This was the 2024 winner, La Liebre, out of Chile, which uses the chassis of a 60s South American-market Ford Falcon, which will be great once we get it for FH7!
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I'd welcome back Hot Wheels cars with open arms.
 
I'd welcome back Hot Wheels cars with open arms.
Yeah, honestly I'm surprised I didn't even consider any Hot Wheels cars for Midnight Muscle. I don't think it's necessarily likely, I'm of the mind that it's either going to be a full-on Modern Muscle update or a Back to the '90s style batch of returning or New-to-Horizon muscle cars. But Hot Wheels cars would certainly fit this mold.
 
Another random thought: the Gasser could also be why we haven't seen the normal Volvo 1800E in FH5 or FM23. But yeah I know the decals can be taken off of the stock car. I added a 90s style Mark Martin Valvoline livery before Ford did the headlight decals to the front of their cars around the 1998 season. But it's inconsistent with some of the cars in FM that are decaled up in the front fascia in whether they can be taken out or not.
Oh, I was actually referring to how FH5 handles cars with no headlights to speak of, which I'm sure the Gumout doesn't have. I think they just cast a ray of light out in front of the car to give you headlights no matter what, actually, but again it's been a long time since I've used a car like that in any Horizon.
 
Oh, I was actually referring to how FH5 handles cars with no headlights to speak of, which I'm sure the Gumout doesn't have. I think they just cast a ray of light out in front of the car to give you headlights no matter what, actually, but again it's been a long time since I've used a car like that in any Horizon.
Gotcha! Yeah, that is definitely the case.
 
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