Forza Horizon 5: General Discussion

[Digolgrin]

It looks very nice but see how a game like this or Tokyo Extreme Racer, or the highway in GT7 contains the player to roads. A Forza Horizon game (from 2 onwards anyway) makes possible for you to go offroad at any time, and trash any object that is not fixed (furniture, utilities, fencing, vegetation, etc.) Would you put a danger sign over a Torii gate? Would you mow down blooming Sakura trees?

Somehow that would not feel right IMO.

In my mind's eye, I feel like that's mostly out of respect for Japanese geography and wanting to be as 'realistic' as possible. I feel like folks would be able to accept a Danger Sign over a shrine or a temple, if it's with the understanding that those things should be indestructible. Heck, just limit the sakura trees to inhabited areas and make them indestructible, just so you wouldn't be able to just plow 'em over with a Unimog.

I'll bet that Mexico was partially an experiment with just that idea, of going to a place with sacred and historically important monuments and negotiating with their government to let them have those sites in the game in exchange for the promise that they won't be treated in any disrespectful manner.

 

[CarbonDaimon]

FH5 Release Notes: March 12th, 2025 (Hotfix)​

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We're constantly working to improve the experience in Forza Horizon 5. Below you will find a summary of items fixed or improved upon in this update.

Version Number:

• Xbox One: 2.681.890.0
• Xbox Series: 3.681.890.0
• PC: 3.681.890.0
• Steam: 1.681.890.0

Bug fixes and changes (Available from March 12)

General

• Performance and stability fixes.

Returning Series

• Playlist fixes for the Seasonal Championships, EventLab, Trial, and Treasure Hunt in the High Performance Festival Playlist (both Summer and Autumn); where players do not earn the completion or receive Playlist Points despite finishing these challenges.

Backstage Shop
Two new cars have been added to the Backstage Shop to show our appreciation for your patience with the Festival Playlist issues:

• 2014 Alfa Romeo 4C.
• 2020 Nissan GT-R NISMO (R35).

 

[RazorSharkz]

I had an interesting thought. We know Realms is the final content update, but could Realms itself be updated to add more cars instead of of having them unlockable in the seasons??

 

[UKMikey]

 

[Digolgrin]

I had an interesting thought. We know Realms is the final content update, but could Realms itself be updated to add more cars instead of of having them unlockable in the seasons??

I'm betting Realms will come with its own Playlist. There's no way an update like this won't come without some sort of new FOMO content, especially given that leak of the MC20 in at least a playable state.

 

[ScottPuss20]

A little while ago I made a "GT World" map which is kinda based on Japan and Tokyo Bay.

Of course this is unfinished and I'm not sure if the Horizon 6 map would be as big as this but I want to mention a few things.
At the bottom we have "Tokyo Bay" which would include Yokohama Docks and a portion of Tokyo City. Around that we have a freeway loop which could be an expressway like that of the Wangan Loop, along with a bridge that goes across Yokohama. In the top left we have Mount Fuji, shown here as Trial Mountain and Mount Haruna, shown here as "Cape Ring Mountain". I know it's not shown here but if the map was to have a second coastline, it would show up behind the two mountains. The beaches of the northern side near Niigata would be a good addition to have to this map. The airport that I have off to the left of the city would be the festival site, albeit a lot smaller. Perhaps I should develop another concept map that would be a bit more feasible for Horizon 6.

Edit: here is a VERY rough draft of my concept

It's a bit of a cluster**** at the moment but I think I can work with it.

 

[Famine]

PG pushed out another hotfix last night which, I can report, has fixed Summer and Autumn, so if you don't yet have all the points you need HURRY UP: you've got an hour.

 

[GBalao888]

For the new season, the Audi RS 7 Sportback and Lamborghini Aventador J have won the popular Backstage vote.

And thank goodness, because well, I really needed them.

 

[Ak1504]

RWD tune with Sport Tires for everyone that does not want to race with AWD and rally tires for the current Trial

 

[Nacho Libre]

My game on PC is continually crashing when I go to photo mode during a replay!

 

[UKMikey]

PG pushed out another hotfix last night which, I can report, has fixed Summer and Autumn, so if you don't yet have all the points you need HURRY UP: you've got an hour.

Ah, well.

I guess the important thing (for MS, T10 and PG at least) is that the game gets fixed in time for next month so that incoming PlayStation owners hopefully suffer fewer crashes at launch than we did.

 

[sirjim73]

Achievements news @Famine (first posted by Trueachievements):

Exclusive: Forza Horizon 5 adds 17 new Xbox achievements with Horizon Realms

We can now reveal the Forza Horizon 5 Horizon Realms Xbox achievements, which will be added to the racing game in a big update next month.

www.trueachievements.com

 

[pclark06]

Looks like a bunch of new leaks in the Motorsport thread, with a bunch of cars that are definitely more Horizon focused. Could also hint again at a Japanese setting for the next game.

Cars I could easily see in Horizon:
Audi R8 GT (which is the farewell model from '23 for the discontinuing of the R8)
BMW X6 M
Fiat Panda 4x4 mk1
Honda e
Lincoln LS
Subaru Vivio
Toyota Prius Prime

 

[Beebo]

Looks like a bunch of new leaks in the Motorsport thread, with a bunch of cars that are definitely more Horizon focused. Could also hint again at a Japanese setting for the next game.

Cars I could easily see in Horizon:
Audi R8 GT (which is the farewell model from '23 for the discontinuing of the R8)
BMW X6 M
Fiat Panda 4x4 mk1
Honda e
Lincoln LS
Subaru Vivio
Toyota Prius Prime

It would be incredibly funny if they're just trolling and the FH6 location ends up being Germany or somewhere else. Really though, this does follow past game trends of Australian cars being added to FM6 and then FH3 being set in Australia, then British vehicles being found in the FM7 files and later FH4 being revealed to be set in Britain. Also keep in mind that the last car added to FH4 was a vehicle from Mexico, later revealing we'd be headed to Mexico for FH5. I wouldn't be too surprised if we really do get Japan then.

 

[Digolgrin]

Looks like a bunch of new leaks in the Motorsport thread, with a bunch of cars that are definitely more Horizon focused. Could also hint again at a Japanese setting for the next game.

Cars I could easily see in Horizon:
Audi R8 GT (which is the farewell model from '23 for the discontinuing of the R8)
BMW X6 M
Fiat Panda 4x4 mk1
Honda e
Lincoln LS
Subaru Vivio
Toyota Prius Prime

I'd say this is the hardest confirmation we've gotten yet, like @Beebo said. With the 20th anniversary of Forza comin' up, the fact that we got this leak now does seem to point to an FH6 reveal at whatever they do to celebrate it.

If so... dang, it's really happening, isn't it? They're actually gonna pull the trigger on Horizon Japan.

 

[Nacho Libre]

Ok, so if it is Japan, I don't want a semi-realistic Japan. I want Chanbara movies, kaiju, giant mecha, Akihabara fashion, shinobi and every other wacky thing Japan can come up to and often does... and a cross-over with Yakuza Like a Dragon!

 

[pclark06]

I'd say this is the hardest confirmation we've gotten yet, like @Beebo said. With the 20th anniversary of Forza comin' up, the fact that we got this leak now does seem to point to an FH6 reveal at whatever they do to celebrate it.

If so... dang, it's really happening, isn't it? They're actually gonna pull the trigger on Horizon Japan.

I actually almost gave you an @ like someone calling 911 when I saw that too!

 

[meganinja]

although he's worried that if true it may be hard to do it justice given the size of the Tokyo metropolitan area compared to that of past Horizon games.

I think that, like FH4 and FH5, focus would be on more rural parts of the country (more to north or more to south of tokyo), tokyo bay maybe can be in the game, but it would require lot of work that i am not sure T10/PG went into most development time just for it, specially since tokyo is one the most condenced areas in the world

there some small cities that are part of car culture in regions like gunma, yamanashi or shizuoka, that are nearby mt fuji and have lots of great touge roads, Fujimi Kaido is assumed to be on this region and FM2023´s Hakone racing circuit is also nearby

it would be a let down for city street racers and people that wanted to realize their wangan midnight dreams, as much i would love to use eventlabs to recreate termac city rally tracks like the ones shown on a fun litte japanese rally movie known as OverDrive

but, for most people that are focused on drift and 90s JDM culture, surely they will have a lot of blast on it specially i am sure the game will have of a montain roads as shown on FM4 Fortune Island, FM5 main map and FM5 Rally Adventure

Japan is going to be difficult. People are extremely hard to please with any game with Japanese culture, AC Shadows being the latest one to catch flak.

Without breaking rules of the forum, lets say that some people had been keeping their eyes on ubisoft for a long time and ubisoft hasnt helped theysellfes seeking more polemics as a way to try to show resistence aganaist those people... so it is a more complicated than "they annoyed Japan"

We also have some recent exemples of western-made games focused on Japanese cullture like Ghost of Tsushima, Total War: Shogun, and Trek to Yomi

semi-realistic Japan. I want Chanbara movies, kaiju, giant mecha, Akihabara fashion, shinobi and every other wacky thing Japan can come up to and often does... and a cross-over with Yakuza Like a Dragon!

after above ubisoft event happened, i doubt they will go hard, and instead will play save actually, i guess they could try please fans putting some eurobeat and stuffs like that, but dont expect anything out of the usual stuffs that every japanese car game has

 

[sirjim73]

I might have to get this framed
My first hat tip on life is now complete...
@Famine ...

 

[Komrad Syka]

 

[Fezzik]

but dont expect anything out of the usual stuffs that every japanese car game has

If that is the case then quite frankly what is the point of setting the game there?
Do something new instead of what's already been done.

 

[Digolgrin]

If that is the case then quite frankly what is the point of setting the game there?
Do something new instead of what's already been done.

I mean, I said it before, I think folks will be able to accept things like Danger Signs leaping over shrines and temples and indestructible sakura trees. Horizon can absolutely do something different with Japan because they've never let the size of a country contain them. Horizon 5's map size was really only possible because they dared to try to go coast to coast and capture as many of Mexico's biomes as they could, I could see Playground trying to take some kind of "all killer no filler" approach to designing Japanese maps.

 

[Komrad Syka]

I mean, I said it before, I think folks will be able to accept things like Danger Signs leaping over shrines and temples and indestructible sakura trees. Horizon can absolutely do something different with Japan because they've never let the size of a country contain them. Horizon 5's map size was really only possible because they dared to try to go coast to coast and capture as many of Mexico's biomes as they could, I could see Playground trying to take some kind of "all killer no filler" approach to designing Japanese maps.

basically forza will have an agreement with JNTO (Japan National Tourism Organization) and the Japanese Gov at the end to make sure everything under control like fh5

 

[Digolgrin]

basically forza will have an agreement with JNTO (Japan National Tourism Organization) and the Japanese Gov at the end to make sure everything under control like fh5

Very likely, yeah. These games do exist to help promote tourism deep down.

Also, @pclark06 , more leaks out of the FM2023 forum that point towards potential Horizon additions and might complicate the Japan prediction:

First of all, GAC and Zeekr, two mainland Chinese manufacturers, have text strings and textures in the game's files. Zeekr is owned by Geely, one of PG's marketing partners, and they're also the current owners of Lynk & Co, so it's likely they'll make the jump and not GAC, but it's absolutely worth mentioning.

They also mention the Ineos Grenadier, a British SUV that entered production in 2023--basically a modernized Land Rover Defender, absolutely expect this thing to pop up in FH6:

...as well as the Mazda Luce, a luxury car with a rotary engine, very likely a '60s model going by the texture:

There's also stuff that points to the addition of the Dodge Challenger Demon 170, as well as possibly Subaru SUVs? Hard to tell.

 

[Populuxe]

A lot of people are talking about Japan like it’s a done deal for FH6. It would be hilarious if it turned out to be Morocco.

 

[Famine]

A lot of people are talking about Japan like it’s a done deal for FH6. It would be hilarious if it turned out to be Morocco.

Or Scandinavia.

 

[skazz]

I still think China is an option.

 

[Populuxe]

I still think China is an option.

Considering how many Chinese cars we got in this game, that’s not out of the question.

 

[Famine]

It doesn't entirely tally with their values of inclusion and diversity though.

 

[Fezzik]

It doesn't entirely tally with their values of inclusion and diversity though.

So no return to the US then.