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No word on that yet, and it's likely that it isn't a priority at this stage, but anything's possible.
Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread
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Yeah I don't know what's up with the AI, everytime they do AI tweaks in these updates it's like they correct some behaviors only to make others worse. It makes me think that they will never nail the AI down to be nearly perfect. Are they better then when the game launched? Yes. But are they still making stupid mistakes? Also Yes. It's weird but depending on the division I'm still having some great racing against them 75 percent of the time.
Another AI update needs to correct the following for good which includes them veering off track at specific spots on certain tracks for no reason, scenarios where they dive bomb into each other and the player, add defensive driving for the AI so they are not always pushovers, and still need some fixing on faster AI passing slower cars.
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Limiting practice to 2 laps can be tricky because of where you're given control of the car in some scenarios. It makes the opening lap almost useless so you really only have one flying lap. I think at Suzuka East you're given control at the top of the hill before the two right hand turns that lead onto the front stretch. But the car was still in auto pilot and it veered to the left then I got control so I had to quickly correct that.
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Cheers for the link ManteoMax.Please vote in the Troubleshooting Hub if you haven't already:
Crash - Update 10 - Game crash on event exit is still a thing (1761090)
Same issue like the one that was closed. Game will Crash to Dashboard when exiting to the main menu. XSX Went into a GT2 lobby to check the available cars and left the lobby straight away, Game crashed on exit. The spining wheel didnt spin at all, just locked then CTD. I did not make any car...forums.forza.net
UI - Rivals Leaderboards Now Only Show Top 50 (Update 10) (1825260)
With Update 10, all in-game Rivals leaderboards now limit me to scrolling through only the top 50, no matter how many more entries there are. Please restore leaderboards to their prior full functionality. (Steam PC version.)
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Just a heads up. With update 10 running out of fuel is not a thing anymore…https://forums.forza.net/t/cars-can-no-longer-run-out-of-fuel-as-of-update-10/724216
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Also, in the Open class tour, the game finishes the practice session straight after the required amount of laps, but not in the Nemesis tour, you can practice to your hearts content. One other thing to notice, the Evo III in cockpit view the dials are too dark to see, though the needles are visible.
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Did they make a feature that auto ends practice when specific conditions are met? I know this happened to me when practicing for the first race in the D-class Open tour. I ran one lap of Eagle Rock and then bam, back in the pits with the open to go to race enabled. I didn't even see what my lap time was, lol. It also seems like the fuel ratio isn't right either, as I had enough fuel to run the full race at Eagle Rock, but yet ended up running out of fuel as I came around the final corner.
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The Sebring enduro can be done on a one-stop strategy with hard/hard, but it's painful as the last lap on each stint will be done with knackered tyres - the only good thing is that the AI will go on for another lap with worse and you'll get the undercut. There's no rain in the event.
I'd love to see the endurance races stay, or a new range of races in the main career, or even a return of them should they go away, but who knows with T10? I'd guess the last option, but I don't know when that would return.
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It also appears they have broken the "Test Drive" function where it no longer starts you on a flying lap, instead it starts you using the setting you have in the lobby "Rules" page, either standing start or rolling start with a countdown. Kinda minor, but also kind of annoying sometimes, depending on what it is you are doing.
This last update made a change to private lobbies that wasn't mentioned in the patch notes, where now you don't need to manually change your driver group bucket to get into other classes, you can just select the available car you want and it will automatically put you in the right bucket, including when a race is currently underway so that you can check your tune/fuel/tires while the others are are finishing up. It's actually a great change and something that has been annoying for years...
...But they also broke the lobby settings, so now every single time you change anything in the lobby settings, the "Rules" tab resets to default "Club" settings... except they aren't really Club settings. We tested it in one of our league qualifying lobbies where we run with collisions off, and it resets collisions and turns them back on, which is displayed properly under the rules tab. The damage on the rules tab will say "cosmetic only" like it should for Club settings, except you will still get full mechanical damage if you crash, and you still burn up fuel even though you shouldn't be able to, which I'm guessing is tied to this new glitch:
Adding a mandatory stop doesn't really police it either, as a caution before the "legit" pit window would still lead to people potentially cheesing it.
The issue with things like this too is the perception and paranoia with it. Leagues can tell their drivers "don't do that" and 99% of people will listen, which means for most kinda normal 20-ish person leagues no one will exploit it... But there are certain people who need to scapegoat their losses on something, and they often end up questioning/accusing others of exploiting things or being unfair or whatever, even when they don't know what they are talking about... Which leads to hurt feelings, unnecessary stewards inquiries, and other headaches.
Sorry for the wall of text rant, but as a series organizer this a big groan/facepalm combo, and yet another scramble to figure out a way to compensate for another T10 **** up and have to change rules mid-season... Like the time they broke half of the kerbs in FM7 for a few weeks, or the time they broke pit stops so your car no longer ghosted and it would lead to cars crashing and getting stuck in the pit lane in FM7, or the time they made it more common for cars to disappear when entering the pitlane and they would just be invisible for the rest of the race in FM7, and so on.
The fuel estimation, while usually very conservative, is dynamic and adjusts to your driving. That includes live in the HUD while driving, in the pit stop refuel prediction when you select how much fuel to add, and in the "Fuel and Tires" menu between sessions. It's possible that when you only did 1 lap it didn't get an accurate reading. I've had the same thing happen to me once or twice, although usually it's the opposite and I end up with 2 or 3 extra laps worth at the end.
The sort of "1 step forward, 2 steps backwards, and 1 and a half steps diagonally forward" thing is so on-brand for T10 though.
This last update made a change to private lobbies that wasn't mentioned in the patch notes, where now you don't need to manually change your driver group bucket to get into other classes, you can just select the available car you want and it will automatically put you in the right bucket, including when a race is currently underway so that you can check your tune/fuel/tires while the others are are finishing up. It's actually a great change and something that has been annoying for years...
...But they also broke the lobby settings, so now every single time you change anything in the lobby settings, the "Rules" tab resets to default "Club" settings... except they aren't really Club settings. We tested it in one of our league qualifying lobbies where we run with collisions off, and it resets collisions and turns them back on, which is displayed properly under the rules tab. The damage on the rules tab will say "cosmetic only" like it should for Club settings, except you will still get full mechanical damage if you crash, and you still burn up fuel even though you shouldn't be able to, which I'm guessing is tied to this new glitch:
This really screws up any organized league that uses fuel/tires (since we are 8 titles into this series and still can't run "fuel only" or "tires only" for some stupid reason) for strategy potential and doesn't want people to just cheese it. There really isn't a good way to police it, and the only thing you could do would be to "fix" it by upping the tire wear multiplier so much that it requires multiple stops for tires. Otherwise, people will just put hard/medium tires on and run out of fuel but keep going and never have to stop.
Adding a mandatory stop doesn't really police it either, as a caution before the "legit" pit window would still lead to people potentially cheesing it.
The issue with things like this too is the perception and paranoia with it. Leagues can tell their drivers "don't do that" and 99% of people will listen, which means for most kinda normal 20-ish person leagues no one will exploit it... But there are certain people who need to scapegoat their losses on something, and they often end up questioning/accusing others of exploiting things or being unfair or whatever, even when they don't know what they are talking about... Which leads to hurt feelings, unnecessary stewards inquiries, and other headaches.
Sorry for the wall of text rant, but as a series organizer this a big groan/facepalm combo, and yet another scramble to figure out a way to compensate for another T10 **** up and have to change rules mid-season... Like the time they broke half of the kerbs in FM7 for a few weeks, or the time they broke pit stops so your car no longer ghosted and it would lead to cars crashing and getting stuck in the pit lane in FM7, or the time they made it more common for cars to disappear when entering the pitlane and they would just be invisible for the rest of the race in FM7, and so on.
How much extra fuel did you put in above the lap count?
The fuel estimation, while usually very conservative, is dynamic and adjusts to your driving. That includes live in the HUD while driving, in the pit stop refuel prediction when you select how much fuel to add, and in the "Fuel and Tires" menu between sessions. It's possible that when you only did 1 lap it didn't get an accurate reading. I've had the same thing happen to me once or twice, although usually it's the opposite and I end up with 2 or 3 extra laps worth at the end.
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yeah the ai is still pretty wonky, i've noticed they sometimes just veer off track for no reason. hopefully they keep tweaking it, cause good ai makes such a difference
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^ And to think they said they had to rebuild all the old tracks because the AI was struggling.
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They had to rebuild the old tracks due to the physics engine running at a higher rate. This is well known.
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Not saying you are making anything up but that main reason was due to the physics engine.
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Done Sebring endurance and I must say that I'm devastated with outcome!
Finished last due twin tires wear issue.
Had to go in pit second time, after whole lap with destroyed tires.
Otherwise, it was a great 1-2-3 fight...
Now looking how ot was and that means I should pit in lap 7 and 15, could use soft tires.
Finished last due twin tires wear issue.
Had to go in pit second time, after whole lap with destroyed tires.
Otherwise, it was a great 1-2-3 fight...
Now looking how ot was and that means I should pit in lap 7 and 15, could use soft tires.
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Tired Tyres
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I played hundreds of hours of FH4 & FH5 via xCloud on my Mac and they worked fine so I’m hopeful. Will likely need an ethernet adaptor though for the stick, don’t trust my wifi.
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It really depends on your latency to the nearest xCloud-hosting Azure datacenter.
I have under 10ms latency to the nearest xCloud Azure datacenter where I live, and haven't noticed any significant latency problems when playing xCloud.
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