Forza Motorsport General Discussion Thread
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From official Forza forum:
The 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing, which will be discounted in the Showroom as a Spotlight car, has been part of the game roster since launch. Players may notice the 2014 Cadillac CTS-V Sport Wagon appearing in game menus but not available to collect. This was due to constraints in development. Our plan is to include this car in the Showroom in a future update. State tuned for an announcement (likely after February).
The 2022 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing, which will be discounted in the Showroom as a Spotlight car, has been part of the game roster since launch. Players may notice the 2014 Cadillac CTS-V Sport Wagon appearing in game menus but not available to collect. This was due to constraints in development. Our plan is to include this car in the Showroom in a future update. State tuned for an announcement (likely after February).
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If the career wasn't time gated, I wouldn't have an issue. With the open series, I can knock those out in a couple of days. The time-lock on the featured races is just unecessary in my opinion. But, other than that the carrot on a stick approach for the locked cars is fine. Once I get the car, I am usually off to Freeplay to build it up, tune it and run it.
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if you guys plan to make a S2 now with the GR86 on it alongside the BRZ like the Japanese (and seemly the AU/NZ too) i would love to join, it looks and sounds so fun
now if i am not mistaken the last spory/racing hyundai left are the 5N eN1 Cup to join the touring cars and the (Gen 1 or Gen 2) HB20 Cup as a good starter car racing series
there also has the Elantra Cup, but it would be redundant since the Elentra TCR is already in the game now
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I wonder if the career events aren't time gated out of concerns for the size of the game's install. I wonder how much do the custom posters for the events, and those (admittedly, pretty nice) sequences that play before each championship weight?
In any case, they could have their cake and eat it too, by having every month a highly-sought after car (like the M4 GT3 last month) awarded through non-time gated events that get added to the Builders' Cup, and an oddball obtainable by completing the (time gated) open-class offline series. And of course, both cars available through the Challenge Hub for people more interested in online racing.
This would allow them to still keep engagement numbers high through FOMO, while significantly lessening the burden on casual fans who don't necessarily care about collecting every single car added to the game, but also on content creators and competitive league* players alike.
(Then again, recent Twitter interactions have led me to suspect that if you wrote to the official FM accounts saying something along the lines of "I wanna race in a league with the M4 GT3 but missed it when it was available", or "I have a cool livery idea for the Aston Vantage, but I forgot to do the races when it was up", they'll just send you one?)
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With the addition of the Elantra N TCR, Forza Touring is probably one of the most complete divisions in the game. It's been fun racing against and with that car and the whole field of other Touring cars being that there's so many to choose from now and they are all closely matched. I believe all we're missing is the Alfa Romeo Mito TCR and then a few previous gen cars like the Chevy Cruze, Volvo S60 and Toyota Avensis.
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A couple of odd things happened tonight. First when I tried to start the Hot Hatch series I originally picked my VW Golf GTi which is at B600 but I didn't notice that B550 was the limit. The instant it told me I couldn't use the car the connection to the server dropped. Took a little bit to get it back but when it came back it had removed all of the upgrades from the Golf and put it back at it's original C class number.
Next when I tried to start Open Class D races, all of the little windows in the D Class panel indicating if a race has been completed were all filled in and the series showed completed and it showed C class locked. So I went ahead and tried to start D and it let me do it.
I will say there is one positive about this first series in this tour and that is car choice. It took me a little while to pick something out. I eventually went with the featured I30N as I figured it would give me another Hyundai to start building points on and I already have a Veloster.
Next when I tried to start Open Class D races, all of the little windows in the D Class panel indicating if a race has been completed were all filled in and the series showed completed and it showed C class locked. So I went ahead and tried to start D and it let me do it.
I will say there is one positive about this first series in this tour and that is car choice. It took me a little while to pick something out. I eventually went with the featured I30N as I figured it would give me another Hyundai to start building points on and I already have a Veloster.
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The hot hatch career event is not half bad. I ran a Golf R and had to drop it from 600 as well, but without the hassles you had Jezza. It was pretty fun racing against the AI, and for the most part it was issue free. They still don't respect me if I am on the inside of a turn and, often; to get away without being touched, I have to abuse the track limits. But other than that, no real silliness.
It was interesting seeing the Ai locking and smoke coming off of the unloaded rear tires. I didn't notice any tripoding but seeing that one wheel lock up and a small amount of smoke was a nice touch.
Race wise, it felt like the devs were beginning to cook. The tracks were decent challenges, and the race length was decent. I wish there were more thn just 4 events. Perhaps I need to create a hothatch B/550 macro, and see if I can recreate this combo in single player.
It was interesting seeing the Ai locking and smoke coming off of the unloaded rear tires. I didn't notice any tripoding but seeing that one wheel lock up and a small amount of smoke was a nice touch.
Race wise, it felt like the devs were beginning to cook. The tracks were decent challenges, and the race length was decent. I wish there were more thn just 4 events. Perhaps I need to create a hothatch B/550 macro, and see if I can recreate this combo in single player.
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I was noticing this week that if you try to slip up the inside of the AI even with your nose ahead before the corner, the chances are really high that they will drive into you. Then we get a moment of Forza Glue (tm) before you can shake yourself loose.
In a game which is built around starting mid pack and sneaking up through the field quickly, this remains very frustrating. I'm at the stage that I'd probably prefer FH5-style AI for this: They back off a little as soon as you get your nose in front in order to avoid colliding. But ACC AI would be even better: They hold their line and drive parallel to you where possible but will avoid touching you without unnecessarily braking.
In a game which is built around starting mid pack and sneaking up through the field quickly, this remains very frustrating. I'm at the stage that I'd probably prefer FH5-style AI for this: They back off a little as soon as you get your nose in front in order to avoid colliding. But ACC AI would be even better: They hold their line and drive parallel to you where possible but will avoid touching you without unnecessarily braking.
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Irritating things in FM23 number 248...
Every driving game in existence:
When your batteries run out and the controller disconnects during a race, the game pauses.
FM23: the race continues while you take out the old batteries and put in the new ones, losing you the race because you cant rewind sufficiently, forcing you to restart the race.
I was reminded about this when my batteries ran out during FM7. A game that still exceeds FM23 in BASIC functions like this, after 17 months of updates.
Every driving game in existence:
When your batteries run out and the controller disconnects during a race, the game pauses.
FM23: the race continues while you take out the old batteries and put in the new ones, losing you the race because you cant rewind sufficiently, forcing you to restart the race.
I was reminded about this when my batteries ran out during FM7. A game that still exceeds FM23 in BASIC functions like this, after 17 months of updates.
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OK, thanks for the feedback.
I play the game using Cloud (due to the game taking up nearly half of the available hard drive space), so maybe that's the reason it happened to me before 🤔
On a positive note, I've switched over to Performance mode from Graphics mode for the first time in a while and consider the graphics sufficient now (they were poor for a long time after launch, in my opinion). I'll stick with this I think, as the mega blur in Graphics mode on Series S strains my eyes.
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Two very bad places for AI brake checking are the little left hander coming out of turn 2 at Hockenheim GP and the kink after The Carousel at Road America. If I'm within a car length or two they will brake check almost always. Last night at Hockenheim GP in GTX coming out of turn 2 I had a Porsche hit the brakes faster than a F/A 18 landing on an aircraft carrier. Luckily I was far enough to the right to avoid it.
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I definitely had a much better experience in career with the Hot Hatches event. I used the i30N and had a blast. The AI wasn't too bad and I had some good races and battles, I don't think I saw a single penalty awarded even for the AI.
It seems they do better with lower classes, we will see what happens when the next series opens up.
It seems they do better with lower classes, we will see what happens when the next series opens up.
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Interesting. Guess I've been luckier, but when I take the inside line, I usually try to find the grip to hug the turn even tighter to give the AI space & the AI will stay wide. If I'm super aggressive and just hold my position a bit, I can force the AI to basically under steer/slide off the track.
It's when they get bunched up that I usually run into a bumper car scenario, but one-on-one, my experience with the AI has been pretty good as long as I'm staying fair & leaving room.
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So despite this game having the longest dev cycle for Forza, Turn 10 can't seem to just get it together. What is going on behind the scenes at Turn 10 one must wonder? Is this Spencer or Nadella level? OR is it high salary employees just being stagnant, losing their original passions for Forza, and focusing on failure trends like modeling after Halo Infinite-10 year platform service, FOMO content, engagement metrics, etc. It seems to me that Turn 10 and even their outsourced teams who need to be "built from the ground up" if this keeps happening.
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yea i am refering to the new Oreca P2, not the one that is already in the game
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I wouldn't expect someone to chime in and be like "yeah it's true!" when it would likely be preview info. Like I said before though, when they make a preview program an opt-in thing any rando can join, the info is going to leak out.
Also there is no "new Oreca P2" as the 07 is the homologated Oreca P2 and has been frozen since 2017, and are now locked in until 2028 I think? The only thing changing over the years is minimum weight/restrictor stuff (in 2021 I think it was?) to slow them down compared to the LMDh/LMH cars.
Another Oreca 07 with slightly more weight/less restrictor would be a pretty pointless addition... but also a very low-effort addition, and with the state of things now it doesn't seem outside the realms of possibility. I guess it would be non-DLC version of the Oreca for people to use, but at the same time doing stuff like that devalues the Car Pass.
Speaking of the Car Pass, damn when we are gonna finally get the Camaro Trans Am car? It was on the SteamDB list with the other Car Pass cars but got moved off the list. After the rework of Forza GT, the Trans Am cars are now useless for a lot of people, and they can't make a "Forza TA" hopper or series until there is a non-DLC car to use. Those are fun, unique cars so it would be cool to see them make a return... even if 90% of the playerbase can't control them.
Also there is no "new Oreca P2" as the 07 is the homologated Oreca P2 and has been frozen since 2017, and are now locked in until 2028 I think? The only thing changing over the years is minimum weight/restrictor stuff (in 2021 I think it was?) to slow them down compared to the LMDh/LMH cars.
Another Oreca 07 with slightly more weight/less restrictor would be a pretty pointless addition... but also a very low-effort addition, and with the state of things now it doesn't seem outside the realms of possibility. I guess it would be non-DLC version of the Oreca for people to use, but at the same time doing stuff like that devalues the Car Pass.
Speaking of the Car Pass, damn when we are gonna finally get the Camaro Trans Am car? It was on the SteamDB list with the other Car Pass cars but got moved off the list. After the rework of Forza GT, the Trans Am cars are now useless for a lot of people, and they can't make a "Forza TA" hopper or series until there is a non-DLC car to use. Those are fun, unique cars so it would be cool to see them make a return... even if 90% of the playerbase can't control them.
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