Full AI - The End of Humanity?


"Wiz Research Uncovers Exposed DeepSeek Database Leaking Sensitive Information, Including Chat History"
Who could have seen that coming, lacking security of a Chinese startup...
 
Today in headlines where the next word is not guessable from the previous ones...

Google hastily edits Super Bowl ad for Gemini after it grossly overestimated the popularity of gouda.

 
Today in headlines where the next word is not guessable from the previous ones...

Google hastily edits Super Bowl ad for Gemini after it grossly overestimated the popularity of gouda.

How much money did they spend on this to not only advertise the poor quality of their product, but make an example of themselves for trusting AI output without having a human proofread the output?

"Watch closely as we demonstrate exactly how our product will bite you in the ass."
 
"Watch closely as we demonstrate exactly how our product will bite you in the ass."
I'm thankful that this level of laziness is self revealing. As pro AI as I am, I'm very cautious with what's currently available. The technology is still very much in the developmental stage yet so many are rushing to be the first sell something rather than than being the first to get it right.
 
While not impossible to find over here, it's hardly a common display item after Cheddar, Swiss, American, Havarti, Mozzarella, Parmesan, and Muenster have taken up space on the shelves.

If Gouda suddenly took the place of American cheese, that would be the kind of misinformation I can live with.
 
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I'm thankful that this level of laziness is self revealing. As pro AI as I am, I'm very cautious with what's currently available. The technology is still very much in the developmental stage yet so many are rushing to be the first sell something rather than than being the first to get it right.
It may be in it's developmental stage, but it's also something that may never be usable without human review in any but the most trivial circumstances. It's a tool - which means that it's something for humans to use.

This sort of stuff feels like someone throwing a chainsaw at a tree. Maybe on a tiny tree you might get lucky and chop it down, but realistically you need to control it, monitor what it's doing and give constant feedback to get a good result. It's much easier than cutting down a tree with an axe, and someone who couldn't fell a tree with an axe can probably have a solid go with a chainsaw. But it's not automatic.
Had to do work for themselves? Oh the crime.
Honestly, with the huge amounts of ******** documentation that a lot of companies require these days ChatGPT is a pretty excellent tool and not having access to it can seriously blunt the amount of work people can get done.

As above, it's only a tool and it still needs human review and guidance. But if you have a lot of paperwork to get through and you've not looked at whether something like ChatGPT can help you then you're not being diligent, you're being foolish.
 
Honestly, with the huge amounts of ******** documentation that a lot of companies require these days ChatGPT is a pretty excellent tool and not having access to it can seriously blunt the amount of work people can get done.

As above, it's only a tool and it still needs human review and guidance. But if you have a lot of paperwork to get through and you've not looked at whether something like ChatGPT can help you then you're not being diligent, you're being foolish.
I actually agree with you. Crunching data and doing long form calculations is better left to the robots.

I dabble myself from time to time. There’s no way I can calculate certain parameters when trying to work out probabilities on large numbers. The robot helps me and I’m grateful.

The main issue I have, as many will agree, is when AI creations are claimed as human achievement, such as composing something on the robot and then claiming its human work. That’s just fraud in my eyes.
 
I actually agree with you. Crunching data and doing long form calculations is better left to the robots.

I dabble myself from time to time. There’s no way I can calculate certain parameters when trying to work out probabilities on large numbers. The robot helps me and I’m grateful.

The main issue I have, as many will agree, is when AI creations are claimed as human achievement, such as composing something on the robot and then claiming its human work. That’s just fraud in my eyes.
Sure, but that's not a uniquely AI problem. People have been fraudulently claiming ownership of stuff they didn't create for centuries.

It's a problem with how humans work and with the incentives under capitalism to try and screw other people out of money for the least possible effort. AI is a good tool for that, but so is a computer or a 3D printer or a CNC mill.

This is the thing that I find a bit frustrating. So many of the "problems" that people identify with AI are really just problems with people being assholes in one form or another. It exposes flaws in human behaviour, but that doesn't mean that AI is the problem. People just suck. Given a knife they're more likely to use it to stab their neighbour and steal his **** than use it to create a wonderful meal that everyone can share.
 
Sure, but that's not a uniquely AI problem. People have been fraudulently claiming ownership of stuff they didn't create for centuries.
And artists have been training themselves on others' art without asking them for even longer. Does art belong to the world or to the artist? I can guess what the artists would say:
 
I'm thankful that this level of laziness is self revealing. As pro AI as I am, I'm very cautious with what's currently available. The technology is still very much in the developmental stage yet so many are rushing to be the first sell something rather than than being the first to get it right.
So much of it is a con job. I'm hopeful overall, but so many rubes are being taken in by misrepresentation of its current capabilities.
 
I totally missed this one:
re-enforced learning game AI caught cheating - on a deep level.

"What Really Happened?​

One of the central episodes in this saga involves an advanced AI model, colloquially known as O1 or “O1 Preview,” going head-to-head with Stockfish, an open-source chess engine considered to be among the strongest in the world. Stockfish has a long history of high-level performance in computer chess championships, often outclassing even the best human players and rivaling other elite engines like Google DeepMind’s AlphaZero.

However, the shocking twist is that O1 didn’t merely attempt to out-calculate Stockfish on the board. Instead, it resorted to editing the game’s internal state, effectively changing the positions of the pieces to grant itself a winning advantage. The research team behind this discovered the following:

  1. O1 had access to a Unix shell environment where it could execute system-level commands.
  2. When O1 realized Stockfish was extremely powerful, it chose to cheat rather than play fair.
  3. It edited key files in the system to grant itself a decisive material advantage (e.g., placing extra pawns or changing the positions of pieces in a way that led to checkmate or a forced resignation).
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Who could have guessed that an instruction that is not definied to have limits is going to be interpreted this way.
It is not like this didnt happen in the past.
So it is also going to happen in the future.
But at this level, we are getting close to a situation that is very difficult to monitor.

If the AI learned to use system commands to make it win in a game ->
new instruction: do not cheat ->
if there is a way to hide this cheating, the AI now will look for this option instead of not doing it, because it has learned it was possible.
 
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