Full Racing Mod option - Buy Before tuning. Here's what you get for your money.

[Jay.]

I've seen many posts from people asking the same question.
I hope this may help those who are still unsure.

Apply the full Racing Modification to new unmodded cars only.
Don't leave it until last, you'll only have to upgrade the power again from standard.

What the racing mod actually gives you... (some models may differ slightly)

Adjustable racing aero body parts. Front and rear.
Racing exhaust.
Fully adjustable transmission.
Racing clutch & flywheel.
Fully adjustable suspension.
Stage 3 weight reduction. Including windscreen & bonnet.

Cost for VW Golf IV GTi = Cr156,000.ish

Result = 167bhp/6200rpm, 980kg

You can still upgrade the following...

ALL engine tuning mods.
ALL intake tuning mods.
Sports exhaust manifold.
Sports catalytic converter.
ALL turbo/supercharger mods.

Install ALL mods and get a 324bhp/7500rpm monster Golf.

So... Best to buy the Race Mod option for new 'un-modded' cars only.

Oh... and you can still change the base colour.

Cars available for Race Modification. (Not sure who credit goes to as it has been posted a few times before)

Acura NSX RM '91
Chevrolet Camaro SS RM '10 - 177,500cr
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 RM '69 - 215,000cr
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) RM '06
Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) RM '09 - 385,000cr
Dodge Challenger R/T RM '70
Honda CIVIC TYPE R (EK) RM '97 - 110,000cr
Honda INTEGRA TYPE R (DC5) RM '04
Lexus IS F RM '07
Lotus Elise RM '96
Lotus Elise 111R RM '04
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR RM '05 - 115,500cr
Nissan SILVIA spec-R AERO (S15) RM '02
Subaru IMPREZA Sedan WRX STI spec C Type RA RM '05
Suzuki Cappuccino (EA21R) RM '95
TVR Tuscan Speed 6 RM '00
Volkswagen Golf IV GTI RM '01 - 156,000cr

 

[TheDabbinDave]

How do you change the base color back to what it was with the paint scheme/livery intact? Somebody had his racing stripes painted over in the paint shop.

I bought an '09 ZR1 just for the RM. Bought the color I actually like, Velocity Yellow. I don't like how the race mode turns that car white. In fact, I'm disappointed the RM isn't a similar paint scheme/livery of the ALMS factory Vettes. They have a nice mix of yellow & black with a checkered flag over the quarter panels. The RM for this car is over c350,000.

 

[MockngBrd]

are we able to repaint a race modded car?

 

[speedrcr]

How do you change the base color back to what it was with the paint scheme/livery intact? Somebody had his racing stripes painted over in the paint shop.

I bought an '09 ZR1 just for the RM. Bought the color I actually like, Velocity Yellow. I don't like how the race mode turns that car white. In fact, I'm disappointed the RM isn't a similar paint scheme/livery of the ALMS factory Vettes. They have a nice mix of yellow & black with a checkered flag over the quarter panels. The RM for this car is over c350,000.

With the Z06 RM, its $265k roughly, I was able to paint mine or at least the front portion and it retained the black and silver color schema though..

 

[ToxiAU]

Yes, though the decals and racing numbers stay in their original colour.

 

[crazedmodder]

How do you change the base color back to what it was with the paint scheme/livery intact? Somebody had his racing stripes painted over in the paint shop.

I bought an '09 ZR1 just for the RM. Bought the color I actually like, Velocity Yellow. I don't like how the race mode turns that car white. In fact, I'm disappointed the RM isn't a similar paint scheme/livery of the ALMS factory Vettes. They have a nice mix of yellow & black with a checkered flag over the quarter panels. The RM for this car is over c350,000.

I have the opposite question, I want my car to be solid color. I RMd my '10 Camaro SS and it put ugly flames on it so I repainted it with a different white chip I had but the decals were all still there

 

[Osr20_L]

Thank's alot for that info.. You saved me alot of money !!!

 

[TheDabbinDave]

The RM for the ZR1 is c385,000. Want a picture?

 

[asdfg11]

I have the opposite question, I want my car to be solid color. I RMd my '10 Camaro SS and it put ugly flames on it so I repainted it with a different white chip I had but the decals were all still there

Same my DC5 looks pretty horrid, Same with its fugly carbon bonnet which I cant match to body colour.

 

[Blitz187]

'69 Z28 is glitched though... I couldnt put on engine tuning stage 2 and 3 after race modding....

 

[Devedander]

The RM for the ZR1 is c385,000. Want a picture?

That's quite the thin bezel on your TV...

 

[VanderbroTT]

Thank's alot for that info.. You saved me alot of money !!!

Not me, I just RM'd two of my cars today that I had already fully tuned. I could have just bought the skirt and spoiler and saved most of my money!

Btw, wouldn't fully tuning your car and buying the wings for it be the exact same as RMing it? The only difference is that RMing adds a new paint job.

 

[B1ue52]

For what its worth I still dont see the point in the race mod option. I have used it only once to my detriment...

First car I bought in the game was the Civic Type R

Fully modded it manually and it made 488bhp

Bought the Aero Mods

Then noticed the RM option and spent the 110,000 credits on that.

Then noticed my BHP was down to 197bhp

Re-activated whichever modifications I could (i hadnt lost them, they had just been deactivated)

BUT.... my bhp only went back up to 388bhp, so I lost 100bhp along the way.

Aside from the racing paint scheme the RM mod gave me nothing aside from less horsepower!

So what's the point?

 

[Griffith500]

You know how the power of a new car slowly creeps up as you put miles on it, i.e. it's continuing to loosen up? Maybe that gets reset with the racing mod. Put a few more miles on it and see if the power increases again. 100 hp does seem a bit steep, though.

 

[veyron1001]

For what its worth I still dont see the point in the race mod option. I have used it only once to my detriment...

First car I bought in the game was the Civic Type R

Fully modded it manually and it made 488bhp

Bought the Aero Mods

Then noticed the RM option and spent the 110,000 credits on that.

Then noticed my BHP was down to 197bhp

Re-activated whichever modifications I could (i hadnt lost them, they had just been deactivated)

BUT.... my bhp only went back up to 388bhp, so I lost 100bhp along the way.

Aside from the racing paint scheme the RM mod gave me nothing aside from less horsepower!

So what's the point?

I was over 20sec ahead of 2nd place on the Nurburgring with the RM Silvia with only 460hp in 1 lap. Everyone else had 600hp plus. There was even a RM ZR1. You will not be fast with a 500hp civic.

 

[mizx]

'69 Z28 is glitched though... I couldnt put on engine tuning stage 2 and 3 after race modding....

Really? That is exactly what I've done just yesterday; I bought another so I could keep my existing Z28, and tuned it fully after the race modification.

edit: At least I'm pretty sure I did, 550bhp should be the maximum?

 

[B1ue52]

I was over 20sec ahead of 2nd place on the Nurburgring with the RM Silvia with only 460hp in 1 lap. Everyone else had 600hp plus. There was even a RM ZR1. You will not be fast with a 500hp civic.

I'm not saying that a 488bhp civic is a great car or that I even want it now. My point is that using the RM option cost me bhp. Therefore I have been reluctant to use it since then.

To be clear, my question is this. If the RM option will not allow you as much HP, I can buy the aero upgrades myself and I can modify the car to a higher HP myself, then other than the paint scheme, what is the point? Dont get me wrong, I am fully aware that there are other benefits to a cars performance than BHP, so what I am asking is, what is RM giving me that modding it myself and buying the aero package isnt? Especially when you consider that using the RM function actually can cost you power.

 

[RacingManiac]

Ditto, I had no issue upgrading the Camaro, it ends be being around 560 or something bhp after super charging.

The biggest gain from race modding is the downforce gain. You get more downforce adjustment(front and rear, as opposed to just rear) and the car will be faster in general.

 

[HaylRayzor]

Perhaps it's time for a head-to-head. Somebody should take a fully upgraded (but not RMed) car for a few laps of a track they know well. Then RM and fully upgrade that car and make a few laps. Given a reasonable driving skill this should shake out the difference.

I have a fully upgraded Z28 I can do the test with but I don't have the cash to do the RM at the moment so I would want to wait until I could do the laps back-to-back for best results.

Actually I don't want to RM this car, so I'd need to buy a new one and RM that. Which is actually something I plan to do anyway.

But if somebody has the cars or the cash to do the test now I'm sure we'd all be interested in the result.

 

[hardtofind]

Is buying parts separately, cheaper than RM?

 

[MasterFocus]

I'm not saying that a 488bhp civic is a great car or that I even want it now. My point is that using the RM option cost me bhp. Therefore I have been reluctant to use it since then.

To be clear, my question is this. If the RM option will not allow you as much HP, I can buy the aero upgrades myself and I can modify the car to a higher HP myself, then other than the paint scheme, what is the point? Dont get me wrong, I am fully aware that there are other benefits to a cars performance than BHP, so what I am asking is, what is RM giving me that modding it myself and buying the aero package isnt? Especially when you consider that using the RM function actually can cost you power.

buying the aero parts wont give you the same adjustment in downforce and, may be wrong on that one but, your car will probably be more heavy.
Take a look at JGTC cars, 300/500 class, making roughly 300hp or 500hp. If you take an NSX for example, a JGTC model with 500hp will loose any street tune NSX with the exact same hp. Its lighter and wider.

 

[Blayney]

Judging from the lower and wider car my ZR-1 has become - and how wonderfully it sticks to the road. I can almost guarantee a non-RM ZR-1 will not be as fast. I've got money to burn - I'll go buy a ZR-1 and fully mod it bar the RM - see which is faster...

 

[Kaaosherra]

It's called downforce, look it up.

 

[Blayney]

Okay so my ZR-1 RM is making 879bhp and is 1100kg
The ZR-1 is making 877bhp and is 1221kg

The difference is because the ZR-1 RM has 15 miles on the clock (is that it!?). Online miles don't count right? Otherwise the ZR-1 RM would have a lot more on it. Anyway...

I've picked to do a practise on Trial Mountain. 5 laps each. ZR-1 RM first, then ZR-1. I have chosen this track as I've been racing on it since time began. I've given the ZR-1 the second slot to give it the best chance of being close to the ZR-1 RM.

Don't expect my lap times to be quick - they won't be!

 

[GatorAdam]

Thanks for taking the time to do this, though. Very much appreciated. Looking forward to the results.

 

[VanderbroTT]

As far as I can tell a fully tuned car with aero kits is the exact same as a race modify'd one. So what is the point of spending so much on the RM if I can just buy the aero kits?

 

[Blayney]

Okay so

Trial Mountain Dry

All assists off bar ABS = 1, Soft Racing Tyres

Corvette ZR-1 C6 RM '09 - 1:18.347
Corvetta ZR-1 C6 '09 - 1:24.642

I personally think a skilled driver could take 3 - 4 seconds off the RM's time and 5-6 seconds off the ZR-1's time. Still, there's a 6.3 second difference between times for me.

To explain the difference the ZR-1 RM's extra down force and lower ride height and wider track allowed it to

1. Turn in much better at speed, whereas the tuned ZR-1 had a tendency to drift out wide at similar speeds
2. Held better traction, the tuned ZR-1 wanted to spin the wheels far more than the RM
3. The ZR-1 RM stuck to the road - there was no lifting of the wheels on the crest of the hill, whereas the tuned ZR-1 had a lot of front end lift.
4. Generally higher cornering speeds for the ZR-1 RM

All of which makes sense. Considering the lower weight and improved aerodynamics and downforce of the RM. I also personally thought there was a slight difference in exhaust note - but this may just be me.

edit - Just so people can be sure the tuned ZR-1 had everything on it including all available aero mods (cost 36k).

 

[RacingManiac]

actually if you don't mind me asking, does your RM ZR-1 still lift off over the jump @ Cape Ring? Thats one thing that really annoyed me at the All Star race....the car goes nose up every time even though I pretty much maxed out front downforce and less rear...

 

[Blayney]

actually if you don't mind me asking, does your RM ZR-1 still lift off over the jump @ Cape Ring? Thats one thing that really annoyed me at the All Star race....the car goes nose up every time even though I pretty much maxed out front downforce and less rear...

Which way around Cape Ring? I can try both ways actually don't worry - I'll go check now.

Judging from the fact my MINOLTA Toyota 88-CV lifted the nose there I'd imaging the 'vette ZR-1 RM does too!

 

[pride4ever]

could someone make a list of all the cars that can be race modded please.