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G35 vs Skyline GT-R what is diff
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"Premium Sports" means a sportscar with luxury bits. A Pure sportscar would be the Fairlady Zs, with the Skylines being similar but having more luxury bits, just like the 350Z and V35 Skyline/G35 now.
Yes, the Skyline is sporty, but it also has good luxury for a sportscar.
Yes, the Skyline is sporty, but it also has good luxury for a sportscar.
Nah man, it means "Premium Sports". Did you see the Ad campaign? How do you know it means "Sportscar with luxury bits"? Actually don't answer that...
The Ad campaign in Japan for the V35 Skyline solely concentrated on the "driving pleasure" and new V6 engine and safety features.
Luxury never came into it.
ShobThaBob
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Who cares? What is it in Japan? What's the name? Skyline you say? Oh yeah, then guess what? It's a skyline. End of story. And who cares what its marketed as? It is what it is. It is VERY sporty with 260hp (our model sedan) and can keep up with the 350z. It also comes with the AWD option that ive heard is much like the ATESSA system. So how is that not skylinish?
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Well, I think those people are idiots if they generalize something like that. The current gen skyline is very sporty and has very nice horsepower. Those people would be very correct if they said that the current skyline is not a successor to the GTR. And marketing...blah. I can market a Kia Rio as being luxury...doesnt mean that it is. I can be like Toyota and market Scion towards kids that are just learning how to drive...doesnt mean it will work or what theyre marketing is anything close to the truth.
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What do you think the American ads do? The point is the ad campaigns aren't what makes the car what it is. What other sportscars do you know with all the luxury ammenities that the Skyline/G35 has? The Skyline Coupe is a more luxurious sportscar then the Fairlady Z/350Z.
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Only Nissan said the opposite, they said the successor to the R34 won't bear the Skyline badge, but heres a new car that will use that badge from now on. If you wan't to argue the matter, explain why the GT-R concept was shown at the same time as the V35, bearing in mind that that are not similar cars in any way, the GT-R concept is not a specially tuned version of the V35, and who n the right mind shows a concept to a cars successor when the current car wasn't even out then. What it is, the Skyline will no longer be a Skyline, instead it will be only the GT-R, maybe the Nissan R35 and then an R35 GT-R but the Skyline name is not in the same family of cars anymore, they're in the rearwheel drive less technology, less performance, more luxury sedan, coupe and estate.
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Whoa dude. Hold on, you're bein stupid again. The skyline in Japan does NOT just consist of a GTR version. What nissan said is that the current skyline is not a successor to the GTR. The skyline will always be a skyline, no matter what it does, as long as it bears the name 'skyline' its a friggin skyline. What they said was 'The new GTR will not be a Skyline'. This has ALL been discussed in other threads. You're wrong.
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what ShobThaBob said
nissan said the successor to the R34 GTR wont bear a skyline badge!!
R34 doesnt automaticlly mean GTR, in fact there are more NON GTR's than actual GTR's
the R34 skyline (NOT GTR!!!) has a successor the V35, let me emphasize again not GTR
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You people misunderstood. "The next GT-R will not have a Skyline badge". OK, we know that the next GT-R will be called "Nissan GT-R", hence...it has no Skyline badge!
Now point out where they said that the next generation Skyline would not have a Skyline badge...
Now point out where they said that the next generation Skyline would not have a Skyline badge...
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- JDA1982
They didn't say the next Skyline won't have a Skyline badge, what they said was the successor to the R34 won't use the Skyline badge and it won't be due fow a while with the GT-R being the only model confirmed coming out in 2007, the current Skyline is not the R34's successor, you can argue it all you wan't but Nissan have said it isn't. It would be like VW taking the Lupo badge and not using it for the next Lupo, but putting it on a people carrier instead, the people carrier isn't the tiny Lupo's successor, the G35 and the R34 are a different class of car.
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Get a clue noob. You're wrong. Go to my thread that's somewhere in the Automotive News forum. It's a direct quote and LINK that shows what Nissan said. You know as much about skylines as my dog.
Edit - https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=1025916#post1025916
Link. Go. Read. De-n00bify.
This thread has gone downhill...
I shall be avoiding this thread from now on... one last thing: Go to www.skylinesaustralia.com and do a search on "The New GT-R", and all will be revealed (all Japanese translated articles)... some real up-to-date stuff there.
I shall be avoiding this thread from now on... one last thing: Go to www.skylinesaustralia.com and do a search on "The New GT-R", and all will be revealed (all Japanese translated articles)... some real up-to-date stuff there.
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That thread is about the upcoming GT-R, not the G35 which I am talking about. You seem to keep mising one major point, which is why show the 2007 GT-R at the same time as show the G35. I think you can agree that the GT-R has nothing in common with the G35 right, the GT-R is the xsuccessor to the R34 GT-R right, which means that if the 2007 GT-R doesn't have anyting to do with the G35 which you say is the successor to the R34, the GT-R must be the flagship for the Skyline generation after the G35, so again why show that concept now. When was the las time the Skyline range had a Coupe, Saloon, Cabriolet and an Estate in the lineup.
Heres a link for the latest news on the New GT-R to come out of Japan...
Oh and guys, I agree with the new GT-R not being linked with the Skyline family anymore, but do you know the real reason for this? It's so that Nissan can introduce the new GT-R **at their discretion** regardless of (any) Skyline model changes, timing etc. Saying that the GT-R won't be seen until 2007 was a huge step for Nissan, and they've had to back up that statement countless times to the Japanese enthusiasts. (I got that little tidbit from an industry contact)
But just about everything else (new GT-R will be dubbed "R35", it'll have a V8 option etc, etc) I don't agree with at all... in fact, alot of the stuff I've read on English language forums (by guys who don't live in Japan) is heresay at best. Believe it or not, Carlos Ghosn has mentioned VERY little about the New GT-R... you know why? Because he's not calling the shots in this regard. But thats another story.
Oh and guys, I agree with the new GT-R not being linked with the Skyline family anymore, but do you know the real reason for this? It's so that Nissan can introduce the new GT-R **at their discretion** regardless of (any) Skyline model changes, timing etc. Saying that the GT-R won't be seen until 2007 was a huge step for Nissan, and they've had to back up that statement countless times to the Japanese enthusiasts. (I got that little tidbit from an industry contact)
But just about everything else (new GT-R will be dubbed "R35", it'll have a V8 option etc, etc) I don't agree with at all... in fact, alot of the stuff I've read on English language forums (by guys who don't live in Japan) is heresay at best. Believe it or not, Carlos Ghosn has mentioned VERY little about the New GT-R... you know why? Because he's not calling the shots in this regard. But thats another story.
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The skyline has always had a very large range that you mentioned, although, I dont believe it ever had a Cabrio.
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Thank you rezz for stating that. Live, get this into your mind. The next GTR is not a skyline. The next GTR will be the successor to the R34 GTR. The next GTR will not be linked to the normal skyline (G35), which is why the next GTR will not have the Skyline name attached to it.
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Right, I'm not saying the GT-R will be a Skyline, I'm sayine the current Skyline, the G35 is not the successor to the R34. The R34 and the R34 GT-R were the same family of cars, the G35 and the GT-R are not yet it's the GT-R that is the successor to the R34, I've probably confused some people by now, bt thats the only way I can think of putting it. If you can find any quotes fom Nissan to clear things up that would be great, but I don't think you got what I was getting at.
Why do you insist on saying that? EVERYBODY agrees the V35 Skyline range is the successor to the R34 Skyline range (bar the R34 GT-R), so why persist?
Please mate, do us all a favour and supply links, documents, scanned articles... whatever... just prove to us without a doubt that the V35 range (sans GT-R currently) DOES NOT succeed the R34 Skyline range (sans GT-R).
One thing I will say though (and I think this might be whats confusing you live4speed), the Infiniti G35 is an entirely new model line, concieved for the US market. That particular model (in name ONLY) has no link to ANY pevious Skyline (I say again - IN NAME ONLY)... although it IS a Skyline literally, it isn't called one (there are some minor cosmetic changes though).
Once more for clarity:
V35 Skyline Sedan and Coupe = Infiniti G35 Sedan and Coupe
As there were no Skylines sold in the US... ever... thoeretically, the G35 is not the successor to the R34 Skyline range... simply because the G35 IS NOT a Skyline (by name only).
BUT... that shape you see with a G35 badge on the back does in fact succeed the R34 Skyline range, bar the R34 Skyline GT-R. Reason being because the chassis number is V35 in reality, and the V35 Skyline succeeds the R34 Skyline, EXACTLY the same way the R30 Skyline succeeded the C210 Skyline.
... make no mistake...
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only difference in the G35 and current Skyline range in japan is the engines offered. I believe over there you guys are offered a large range with much smaller engines with lower power, correct? The highest in the current skyline range is the 350GT, or GT350 - our G35 coupe. Am I correct?
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