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The ACR is like a Porsche 911 GT3 RS and the Z06 is like a 911 GT3. Definitely an unfair comparison. Comparing the ACR to the GT3 RS is also unfair but it's the closest thing I can think of.
Right up until it becomes a Carrera 4 instead.the Z06 is like a 911 GT3
And yet no one held this mindset when the C6 Z06 & ZR1 was beating up the last gen. Vipers.The ACR is like a Porsche 911 GT3 RS and the Z06 is like a 911 GT3. Definitely an unfair comparison. Comparing the ACR to the GT3 RS is also unfair but it's the closest thing I can think of.
I consider A/C very appropriate for a track car, especially if it's a close vehicle. I hate driving a hot car. As it turns out, I think the Viper ACR has A/C.Mommy theirs no ac
That cuts off at full throttle to maximize horsepower. A/C has always been a counter-productive applicant for a race car, though.I consider A/C very appropriate for a track car, especially if it's a close vehicle. I hate driving a hot car. As it turns out, I think the Viper ACR has A/C.
They still have Ferraris R&D, how else will they fine tune Alfa TTV6's and Maserati V8's?Ferrari is no longer part of FCA, so that won't happen.
How is that relevant?They still have Ferraris R&D, how else will they fine tune Alfa TTV6's and Maserati V8's?
How is that relevant?
Do you have a source for this?Both Engines and future variations were Developed with Ferrari.
Do you have a source for this?
You said the engines & future variations were developed with Ferrari. In what way does your link prove the two are developing anything together? At most, it shows what the current rumors are saying; Dodge could be sourcing Ferrari-built V6s intended for Alfa Romeo.Alfa 90 Degree TTV6 is based on the Ferrari California T V8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_Giulia_(952)
"The Quadrifoglio is powered by an all-aluminium, twin-turbocharged 90° V6 petrol engine, with a single-cylinder displacement of just under half a litre,[8] for a total of 2.9 L. This engine was developed exclusively for the Quadrifoglio by Ferrari technicians"
and Obviously Maserati V8's are Ferrari developed, you really think it started with the Hemi's or pentastar?
http://www.themotorreport.com.au/46640/next-gen-dodge-viper-wont-get-ferrari-technologyDodge brand chief Ralph Gilles confirmed this week that while the next generation Viper may benefit from Maranello's knowledge and experience, no platforms or technology will be shared between the two.
Gilles added fuel to the fire earlier this week when, in a statement following a record Laguna Seca lap by the Dodge Viper ACR, he said "When we have partners across the ocean who are known as the best sports-car makers in the world, the future opportunities are huge."
In a later talk with US magazine Auto Week, Gilles qualified Dodge's position.
"They really know sports cars. We just want some advice," Gilles said. "Ferrari is Ferrari, Viper is Viper. Please don't go there."
You're just grasping at straws.Alfa 90 Degree TTV6 is based on the Ferrari California T V8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_Giulia_(952)
"The Quadrifoglio is powered by an all-aluminium, twin-turbocharged 90° V6 petrol engine, with a single-cylinder displacement of just under half a litre,[8] for a total of 2.9 L. This engine was developed exclusively for the Quadrifoglio by Ferrari technicians"
and Obviously Maserati V8's are Ferrari developed, you really think it started with the Hemi's or pentastar?
But the C6 Z06/ZR1 were pretty much the same level of car as the gen 4 Viper (neither had huge wings or extreme aero bits, excluding the gen 4 ACR). The gen 5 ACR is on another level from the C7 Z06, the huge GT3 wing, dive planes, front splitter, rear diffuser, Kumho tires, adjustable coilovers, etc. It's a street legal race car plain and simple. The gen 5 TA or GTS/SRT is the equivalent of the C7Z.And yet no one held this mindset when the C6 Z06 & ZR1 was beating up the last gen. Vipers.
No argument here. A C7Z would be the ideal car since it won't destroy your life trying to drive it on the street, but that ACR would still be fun.But the C6 Z06/ZR1 were pretty much the same level of car as the gen 4 Viper (neither had huge wings or extreme aero bits, excluding the gen 4 ACR). The gen 5 ACR is on another level from the C7 Z06, the huge GT3 wing, dive planes, front splitter, rear diffuser, Kumho tires, adjustable coilovers, etc. It's a street legal race car plain and simple. The gen 5 TA or GTS/SRT is the equivalent of the C7Z.
I absolutely love the ACR, but comparing it to the C7Z is apples to oranges imo. Both are halo cars though so I can see why the comparison would tried to be made.
That being said, I've always been a Vette guy but I'd have a hard time passing up a gen 5 Viper TA or ACR for a C7Z.
GTS-R color looks great.
Thanks to a GoFundMe account started by a guy named Russ Oasis, the 2017 Dodge Viper ACR will be heading to the Nürburgring to see if what might be the last track-ready Dodge supercar has what it takes to reset the American performance car record at the world’s best known road course.
Back in September of 2011, a 2010 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR piloted by Dominik Farnbacher lapped the 12.9 mile course in just 7:12.13 and other than the Gumpert Apollo Sport, no other road-going car had gotten around the famous road course in less time. Since then, the Lamborghini Huracán LP 640-4 Performante, the Porsche 918 Spyder, the Lamborghini Aventador SV, the Nissan GT-R Nismo and the Mercedes-AMG GT R have all jumped ahead of the Viper on the list of the quickest road cars around the Ring, but since the 5th generation Viper was introduced for the 2013 model year – followed up with the 2016 Viper ACR - Mopar fans have been calling for the new ACR to take a swing at the Nürburgring record.
The problem is that going over to the Nürburgring with a team aiming to make a record run is expensive and FCA doesn’t seem too keen on spending that money, especially with the Viper ACR setting 13 records around the US. That was where Russ Oasis came into play, as he spoke with folks from the Viper Exchange and he found that a new Nürburgring record run would cost around $156,000. With that in mind, Oasis opened a GoFundMe account to try to raise those funds and over the course of four months, remarkably, he has done it.
Relying only on donations, a pair of Dodge Viper ACR Extreme supercars from the Viper Exchange will be traveling with a team including experienced racers Dominik Farnbacher and Luca Stolz to Nurburg, Germany sometime in July to see if it can’t set yet another track record.
he New Viper Ring Record Run
When the pair of Dodge Viper ACR Extremes head over to the Nürburgring, the goal for Farnbacher and Stolz will be to turn a quicker time with the new ACR than the 7:12.13 turned in by the previous generation ACR. This new Viper is lighter and more powerful, it has better brakes, better suspension, better tires and, most importantly, a better aerodynamics package which should allow it to reach incredible speeds on the many sweeping turns of the Nürburgring – all of which should lead to a significantly quicker lap time.
While it seems likely that the team assembly by Oasis and the Viper Exchange will beat the time turned in by the 2010 Viper ACR, the biggest challenge comes in beating the European hypercars holding the spots above the previous Viper on the list of the top road car times. The Lamborghini Huracán LP 640-4 Performante’s record time is 20 seconds quicker than the 2010 Viper ACR, and it seems like cutting that much time is a tall order for the new ACR.
Realistically, even if this Viper team doesn’t beat the Lamborghini, anything in the 6-minute range will be an incredible feat and every second cut from the old Viper record of 7:12.13 is one more second below the best official time by a Chevrolet Corvette – which was a 7:19.63 run by the C6 ZR1 back in 2011.