Going from PS3 to PC BF3

[oohhh yeah]

Hi guys. I have BF3 on my PS3, and I am tired of 30fps. So I am thinking of switching to PC. Since I pre-ordered the limited edition, I got the Back to Karkand pack for free. If I switch to PC, do I get to keep this pack? And will I have all my progress or will I be at level 0? Isn't my origin account connected through to PC, PS3, and Xbox360? Does anyone remember how they are connected? Is it through email? Also, I heard that for the PC, there are no online codes. I know there are online codes for Xbox 360 and PS3. I think it has something to do with activating the game on PC, because usually with PC games, there is a key that you must enter to be able to install the game. This way, a purchase of the game will only be playable for one person, buying 2nd hand does not work. Am I correct?

Thanks

 

[sesselpupser]

You might have only just missed out on a sale on Origin...

You don't get to keep B2K from your PS3 copy, your progress isn't transferrable, you can't buy a second hand copy because no matter where you buy it you have to activate it on Origin, and it's a huge leap in difficulty if you're not used to a keyboard and mouse, but so much more fun than the console version because it's easier to do teamwork with text chat if you don't have a microphone and 64 player anything is madness.

If you want my advice I'd say keep an eye on Origin, Gamers Gate and other digital download shops and wait for a sale, there's not much sense in buying it at full price if you already have it, but at the same time it's well worth making the switch.

 

[CMvan46]

Yeah you just missed the sale. I just got it for pc for $30.

As was said no second hand copies and no transferring of anything whatsoever.

Don't buy the game at full price, it always always goes on sale. In 4 months of it being out its been on sale atleast once a month.

 

[Ibonibo]

Depends where you come from.


some amazon still have the limited edition. Also saw it still standing in shops.

All around 30 bucks.

And yes you need to restart at level 0

 

[oohhh yeah]

Thanks guys. When there is a sale, do all the places to buy all have the sale together, or are they separate?

 

[Conza]

Hi guys. I have BF3 on my PS3, and I am tired of 30fps. So I am thinking of switching to PC. Since I pre-ordered the limited edition, I got the Back to Karkand pack for free. If I switch to PC, do I get to keep this pack? And will I have all my progress or will I be at level 0? Isn't my origin account connected through to PC, PS3, and Xbox360? Does anyone remember how they are connected? Is it through email? Also, I heard that for the PC, there are no online codes. I know there are online codes for Xbox 360 and PS3. I think it has something to do with activating the game on PC, because usually with PC games, there is a key that you must enter to be able to install the game. This way, a purchase of the game will only be playable for one person, buying 2nd hand does not work. Am I correct?

Thanks

*Claps* Bravo. There is hope after all.

FPS belongs on a system that can use a Mouse and Keyboard, anyone who disagrees was either born after 1995, or never had proper access to the PC classic FPSs, or is plainly daft. Yes its a little unfortunate that you can't buy second hand, but (atleast here in Australia), they start out 10-20 dollars cheaper in the first place, so you're better off day one, even if you don't get money back when it comes time to trade it in (because you can't).

Biggest problem with PC gaming, is that there is a large initial investment, but once you get over than, they can last quite a while, possibly even as much as 3 or 4 graphics card upgrades depending on how high up you buy in the specs.

Good luck, enjoy a thing called 'Anti-Aliasing'

 

[Phoenix]

All I have to say is good boy.

Battlefield on PC is so much better then console. 👍
Better graphics, better controller with mouse and keyboard, and 64 player mayhem!

I am running on 60-65 FPS now on my laptop, but gonna upgrade soon to a gaming beast of a PC.
Gonna spend about $3300... Its alot, I know...
But I am tired of using a laptop which starts to show small lags when the graphics card reaches 70C.

Again, when there is a sale up, buy it right away!

 

[Ibonibo]

^Invest some of that money to your car dude!!

 

[bevo]

If it's 30FPS your tired of on console, then you will need a pretty good PC to run BF3 much higher then that with decent settings. I can run in the 50's but drop down in the 30s some on mine with sli 570s and a i7-950.

In all honesty though I play my 360 version more then the PC version. The PC version does look great, and it's really just alot better game, but I like playing with real world friends more then randoms on the PC. None of my real life friends have gaming PCs like me.

For the guy getting 60 FPS on his laptop, you must have one super laptop, or be playing on some fairly low settings. My sli 570s and i7-950 with 12 gig of ram won't pull that off.

 

[nick09]

All I have to say is good boy.

Battlefield on PC is so much better then console. 👍
Better graphics, better controller with mouse and keyboard, and 64 player mayhem!

I am running on 60-65 FPS now on my laptop, but gonna upgrade soon to a gaming beast of a PC.
Gonna spend about $3300... Its alot, I know...
But I am tired of using a laptop which starts to show small lags when the graphics card reaches 70C.

Again, when there is a sale up, buy it right away!

You can get a high end gaming desktop setup with the monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers easily for $1000-$1500. Look around in that price range and you will find some nice setups. Save the money for other important needs.

 

[Phoenix]

You can get a high end gaming desktop setup with the monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers easily for $1000-$1500. Look around in that price range and you will find some nice setups. Save the money for other important needs.

I have saved for a long time for this beast.
But I know about other options... But they aren't enough for me.

And the $3300 is only for the PC... I have everything else, got a 42" LCD Full-HD TV, a decent keyboard and mouse, and Logitech Z906 surround system.

^Invest some of that money to your car dude!!

Hehe....

PC first!

 

[oohhh yeah]

Thanks guys. I have a xfx 6950 2gb card, but I need a new CPU. What do you guys think will be a good match for my gpu? What fps will my card be able to get on high settings? Most importantly, can I hook my computer to my 5.1 surround sound in my basement? My receiver is optical digital, so I don't know if I can connect them. That is my biggest concern right now.

 

[CMvan46]

I have saved for a long time for this beast.
But I know about other options... But they aren't enough for me.

And the $3300 is only for the PC... I have everything else, got a 42" LCD Full-HD TV, a decent keyboard and mouse, and Logitech Z906 surround system.

Hehe....

PC first!

That money is much better spent over a couple upgrades than all at once. Even if you spent $2000 and then in 4 or 5 years the other $1000 you'd have a very high end computer for a much longer period of time instead of just blowing the whole $3000 now.

 

[bevo]

Thanks guys. I have a xfx 6950 2gb card, but I need a new CPU. What do you guys think will be a good match for my gpu? What fps will my card be able to get on high settings? Most importantly, can I hook my computer to my 5.1 surround sound in my basement? My receiver is optical digital, so I don't know if I can connect them. That is my biggest concern right now.

Does your receiver take HDMI in and then out to your TV? If it does then you can just use HDMI for the sound and video, and won't need a sound card other then onboard sound. If it doesn't, then you will have to buy a sound card and make sure it has optical out on it, unless your MOBO already has an optical out. If your going to use a receiver though, the best way to get the sound to the receiver is through the onboard sound. I use HDMI from one of my 570s into my receiver and then out to the TV. It works great, and the only game I ahve ran into that has given me any sound issues is Arma. For some reason the surround sound just will not work in Arma 2 OA, and in Arma 2 I get some really weird sound glitches that make the game unplayable in surround sound.

As for the 6950 I'm guessing your average FPS will be in the 30s or so FPS on BF3 with decent settings. If you can tolerate medium settings then you could do alot better.

I just found one benchmark test site that had a 6950 at max settings with a 30.7 FPS average at 1080p. You could turn down a few things you wouldn't notice to much and get it closer to 40 fps pretty easy.

 

[oohhh yeah]

Does your receiver take HDMI in and then out to your TV? If it does then you can just use HDMI for the sound and video, and won't need a sound card other then onboard sound. If it doesn't, then you will have to buy a sound card and make sure it has optical out on it, unless your MOBO already has an optical out. If your going to use a receiver though, the best way to get the sound to the receiver is through the onboard sound. I use HDMI from one of my 570s into my receiver and then out to the TV. It works great, and the only game I ahve ran into that has given me any sound issues is Arma. For some reason the surround sound just will not work in Arma 2 OA, and in Arma 2 I get some really weird sound glitches that make the game unplayable in surround sound.

As for the 6950 I'm guessing your average FPS will be in the 30s or so FPS on BF3 with decent settings. If you can tolerate medium settings then you could do alot better.

I just found one benchmark test site that had a 6950 at max settings with a 30.7 FPS average at 1080p. You could turn down a few things you wouldn't notice to much and get it closer to 40 fps pretty easy.

My receiver does not have HDMI, it has two optical digital holes (what is the word?). If I get an HDMI capable receiver, then will I have an HDMI going from my MOBO or GPU (which one?) to the receiver, then an HDMI from the receiver to the TV. Or would it be an HDMI from the MOBO/GPU to the TV, and another one from the MOBO/GPU to the receiver? Either way, I will need two HDMI cables right? You also mentioned it is better to have onboard sound. What is onboard sound and why is it better? I am most concerned about sound quality...so will there be better quality with onboard sound?

Thanks for help👍

 

[Phoenix]

That money is much better spent over a couple upgrades than all at once. Even if you spent $2000 and then in 4 or 5 years the other $1000 you'd have a very high end computer for a much longer period of time instead of just blowing the whole $3000 now.

Problem is, I want a high end computer now, and I don't wanna buy a PC now for $2000 and upgrade it in the next 2-3 years.

But enough off-topic.

 

[Conza]

My receiver does not have HDMI, it has two optical digital holes (what is the word?). If I get an HDMI capable receiver, then will I have an HDMI going from my MOBO or GPU (which one?) to the receiver, then an HDMI from the receiver to the TV. Or would it be an HDMI from the MOBO/GPU to the TV, and another one from the MOBO/GPU to the receiver? Either way, I will need two HDMI cables right? You also mentioned it is better to have onboard sound. What is onboard sound and why is it better? I am most concerned about sound quality...so will there be better quality with onboard sound?

Thanks for help👍

Its all about the mobo, most good ones these days have optical out as 7.1 making sound cards redundant, go for aGIGABYTE, reliable and well priced, with an 1155 processor slot, CPU go for a 2600/K (2700 might last a little longer, but ultimately its in the GC).

 

[bevo]

My receiver does not have HDMI, it has two optical digital holes (what is the word?). If I get an HDMI capable receiver, then will I have an HDMI going from my MOBO or GPU (which one?) to the receiver, then an HDMI from the receiver to the TV. Or would it be an HDMI from the MOBO/GPU to the TV, and another one from the MOBO/GPU to the receiver? Either way, I will need two HDMI cables right? You also mentioned it is better to have onboard sound. What is onboard sound and why is it better? I am most concerned about sound quality...so will there be better quality with onboard sound?

Thanks for help👍

It would go from your GPU to you receiver and then from the receiver to the TV. Your GPU will just pass the audio through to your receiver and let the receiver do the decoding, which is the best way to get the sound. You don't have to get a new receiver though, just make sure your MOBO has optical out, like the other poster said, it will also just pass the sound through to the receiver.

 

[Conza]

Yeah I also think the HDMI solution is perfectly sound, but if you've only got Optical at the other end, then I think optical direct will be the easiest answer... unless do have HDMI in your amp, then HDMI might be easier, but anyway both will work.

I am curious though, I'm guessing you'd need to wire up a 'sound in' on the GC from somewhere else on the MB for it to port sound? I might be being a little old school here, it could be smart enough to shut off the MB sound and have it transfer through the GCs port automatically, or do you actually need to add something inside the computer to get that sound being sent out through the HDMI?

 

[bevo]

It just sends it out through the HDMI. At least that's what mine does. I just have my HDMI running from my top 570 and it sends the video and audio through it. The ATi cards even do it better, because I believe they support bitstreaming, but Nvidia doesn't. At least it seems like I remember ATi is suppose to be able to bitstream audio through HDMI.

If the receiver already has optical though, and your MOBO has an optical out, don't worry about upgrading the receiver, because optical will do digital audio which is the same you will be getting with HDMI. I don't think any games support linear PCM or any of the lossless audio formats anyway, but I may be wrong about that.

 

[oohhh yeah]

Its all about the mobo, most good ones these days have optical out as 7.1 making sound cards redundant, go for aGIGABYTE, reliable and well priced, with an 1155 processor slot, CPU go for a 2600/K (2700 might last a little longer, but ultimately its in the GC).

It would go from your GPU to you receiver and then from the receiver to the TV. Your GPU will just pass the audio through to your receiver and let the receiver do the decoding, which is the best way to get the sound. You don't have to get a new receiver though, just make sure your MOBO has optical out, like the other poster said, it will also just pass the sound through to the receiver.

Yeah I also think the HDMI solution is perfectly sound, but if you've only got Optical at the other end, then I think optical direct will be the easiest answer... unless do have HDMI in your amp, then HDMI might be easier, but anyway both will work.

I am curious though, I'm guessing you'd need to wire up a 'sound in' on the GC from somewhere else on the MB for it to port sound? I might be being a little old school here, it could be smart enough to shut off the MB sound and have it transfer through the GCs port automatically, or do you actually need to add something inside the computer to get that sound being sent out through the HDMI?

It just sends it out through the HDMI. At least that's what mine does. I just have my HDMI running from my top 570 and it sends the video and audio through it. The ATi cards even do it better, because I believe they support bitstreaming, but Nvidia doesn't. At least it seems like I remember ATi is suppose to be able to bitstream audio through HDMI.

If the receiver already has optical though, and your MOBO has an optical out, don't worry about upgrading the receiver, because optical will do digital audio which is the same you will be getting with HDMI. I don't think any games support linear PCM or any of the lossless audio formats anyway, but I may be wrong about that.

Thanks for the help guys. There are still a couple things I don't get.

1) I want the best quality possible. With all the different ways to connect the PC to the sound system, which one will give me the best quality? Or are they all the same? (I have 5.1 if it matters)?

2) Which one will give me better quality, connecting an optical digital from a sound card or from the MOBO?

3) I will be using DTS 5.1 sound or Dolby Digital occasionally for games that don't support DTS. This is lossless right?

4) If I use HDMI from the GPU to the receiver, the receiver can actually send out video to the TV? Nonetheless, if I go the route of HDMI, I will need two HDMI cables no matter how I hook it up right?

Thanks guys:tup:👍👍👍

 

[bevo]

Thanks for the help guys. There are still a couple things I don't get.

1) I want the best quality possible. With all the different ways to connect the PC to the sound system, which one will give me the best quality? Or are they all the same? (I have 5.1 if it matters)?

2) Which one will give me better quality, connecting an optical digital from a sound card or from the MOBO?

3) I will be using DTS 5.1 sound or Dolby Digital occasionally for games that don't support DTS. This is lossless right?

4) If I use HDMI from the GPU to the receiver, the receiver can actually send out video to the TV? Nonetheless, if I go the route of HDMI, I will need two HDMI cables no matter how I hook it up right?

Thanks guys:tup:👍👍👍

1. the best sound is from an HDMI from GPU to receiver, that would only apply to blue ray movies, I think for games that optical is just as good.

2. When using a receiver the best sound will come from the MOBO, or GPU. A sound card is just going to throw more processing into the mix, and most soundcards are not near as good as a receiver for this. Unless your going to spend several hundred dollars on the sound card it's not going to be as good as a receiver. Plus sound card always wants to use weird effects with the sound, that takes away from how the developers intended the audio to sound. Sound cards are made for tiny PC speakers, or headphones so they need to try and adjust the audio to sound good on lesser speakers.

3. It's not lossless. I don't think there are actually any games that support lossless. DTD and dolby digital are compressed formats. Dolby HD, DTS master audio, and linear PCM are lossless formats, and I don't think any games use those.

4. It will send it from the GPU to the receiver, and if your receiver does video then it will go out from the receiver to the TV. If you receiver doesn't do audio though, then you would have to go optical from MOBO and then HDMI from GPU to TV for video.

If you could tell us what receiver you had it would help, maybe even give us a link to it, so we could see some specs and pictures of it.

 

[oohhh yeah]

1. the best sound is from an HDMI from GPU to receiver, that would only apply to blue ray movies, I think for games that optical is just as good.

2. When using a receiver the best sound will come from the MOBO, or GPU. A sound card is just going to throw more processing into the mix, and most soundcards are not near as good as a receiver for this. Unless your going to spend several hundred dollars on the sound card it's not going to be as good as a receiver. Plus sound card always wants to use weird effects with the sound, that takes away from how the developers intended the audio to sound. Sound cards are made for tiny PC speakers, or headphones so they need to try and adjust the audio to sound good on lesser speakers.

3. It's not lossless. I don't think there are actually any games that support lossless. DTD and dolby digital are compressed formats. Dolby HD, DTS master audio, and linear PCM are lossless formats, and I don't think any games use those.

4. It will send it from the GPU to the receiver, and if your receiver does video then it will go out from the receiver to the TV. If you receiver doesn't do audio though, then you would have to go optical from MOBO and then HDMI from GPU to TV for video.

If you could tell us what receiver you had it would help, maybe even give us a link to it, so we could see some specs and pictures of it.

Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it.👍 I don't understand number four though. If the receiver does video, then how does it send the video to the TV? Through HDMI right? So there will be two HDMI cables total? Also, you say "if your receiver doesn't do audio..." how can this be? I thought all receivers do audio, since that is exactly what it's supposed to do?

My receiver is an Onkyo TX-SR304.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/419963-REG/Onkyo_TXSR304S_TX_SR304_Home_Theater_Receiver.html
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=19979

 

[bevo]

Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it.👍 I don't understand number four though. If the receiver does video, then how does it send the video to the TV? Through HDMI right? So there will be two HDMI cables total? Also, you say "if your receiver doesn't do audio..." how can this be? I thought all receivers do audio, since that is exactly what it's supposed to do?

My receiver is an Onkyo TX-SR304.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/419963-REG/Onkyo_TXSR304S_TX_SR304_Home_Theater_Receiver.html
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=19979

I meant to say if it doesn't do video not audio. Yes you will have 2 hdmi cords. One going from the GPU to the receiver and the other going out from the receiver to the TV.