gotSTANCE!?

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My lovely Flush Skyline Coupe:

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OwensRacing
Need more wheels for sure.

Dont want anything wider then what fits proper. I think PD gave use that already.


Honestly these cars with such wide rims that have terrible - camber to the car can be lowered not sit on the tire with the wheel well, remind me of an obese women wearing something she shouldn't and then tucking her rolls in here and there. Its not a good look, its not attractive. Its grotesque.


We car guys are not trying pass judgment on others taste, but we are not going to stand by and watch something completely and utterly useless that has adverse effects on cars and possible injury.

I mean serious in the 80's when you see -camber like that on a Japanese car you knew they broke something in the suspension. NOW ITS THE COOL THING TO DO TO MAKE YOUR CAR LOOK BROKEN?


Whats next for our youth? Seriously baffles me.
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Please go to stanceworks.com or canibeat.com and be open minded. There are so many car fanatics on there and 80% of them are all grown men in their 30s. Also, when you say "we car guys", who are you talking about? The ones that like to work on cars, go to shows, autocross, etc? I do all that and completely disagree with your whole entire statement. Speak for yourself.
 
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Dunno whether I did this right, I'm not too knowledgable about that whole stance thing, but I noticed that my Amuse 380RS Superleggera seemedd to do it rather well, according to what I've seen in this thread so far.

Anyways, here's a picture:

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The car's only unsing 2.2 and 1.2 degrees of negative camber on the front and rear respectively... So it's not like this setup would hurt the performance or anything 👍
 
Revelation1115
Please go to stanceworks.com or canibeat.com and be open minded. There are so many car fanatics on there and 80% of them are all grown men in their 30s. Also, when you say "we car guys", who are you talking about? The ones that like to work on cars, go to shows, autocross, etc? I do all that and completely disagree with your whole entire statement. Speak for yourself.
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Everyone has the right to like what they want. Just remember this is a Racing Simulator sight. People here are racers. As well many of us are have experience in set up of real cars. So to be disrespectful to advice on racing site about racing is just wrong.



OK I kinda want to prove a point to myself here. Someone post the setting they are using to get this "stance" look. I mean the extreme Stance shown here. Then I will take that set up and put it on a Civic, make some laps on Tsukuba. Turn around and set it up proper and see what difference is.

Luminis
Dunno whether I did this right, I'm not too knowledgable about that whole stance thing, but I noticed that my Amuse 380RS Superleggera seemedd to do it rather well, according to what I've seen in this thread so far.


The car's only unsing 2.2 and 1.2 degrees of negative camber on the front and rear respectively... So it's not like this setup would hurt the performance or anything 👍
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That camber is idea for many tracks if you are using a slick tire. If you get the car to low it will kill the roll center and you wont get the roll up on the tire to make use of that camber. This game works very well in this aspect of physics vs setup. Props to GT again.

I run some serious camber in some of my time attack cars for Tsukuba never more in the rear, but guys that Real Life Civic posted has more rear camber then front. WTF?

Basically when the "Stance" crowd admits what they are doing is for looks and looks only is when we can get along.


To be honest guy the bent axle look reminds me of my kids old hot wheels that have been smashed and bent the axles. I mean seriously my kids asked if the Civic posted jumped and broke his car. hahahaha that is reality people.
 
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This 'stance' phase is no different than the 'rice' phase 10 years ago. It was cool when it was different, but now that everyone is doing it, it won't last much longer. People and their fads...

I think my car has a proper 'stance'
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These 'stance' cars (or most of them at least) can't be driven remotely enthusiastically without fear of either ripping the tire off the wheel lip, severe fender rub, or other issues with the stupid fitment. I can drive my car hard....very hard, and it just works. I have given my car a bit more negative camber up front since those photos, and it is a bit lower now too (full racing beat setup) and it's awesome to drive on the street and backroads.
 
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OwensRacing
That camber is idea for many tracks if you are using a slick tire. If you get the car to low it will kill the roll center and you wont get the roll up on the tire to make use of that camber. This game works very well in this aspect of physics vs setup. Props to GT again.
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All I was saying was that I didn't set the car up with it's looks in mind and that it was pure chance that the 380RS looked like what I guess is commonly named 'stance'.

Of course, putting as much camber on a car as was done on the Civic can't be perfoemance oriented, ever. That's why it took a coincidence for me to take a picture like that :)
 
hemisport15
Personally, i don't think it's unattractive or grotesque. I would take a slammed BMW over one at a stock height because i think it looks way better.

This second paragraph really bothers me. "WE car guys"? Oh i see, all the guys in the stance scene (many of whom i'm friends with) aren't car guys? These guys are the most enthusiastic, open minded car nuts i've ever seen. They love everything from Miatas to Big Trucks to full blown race cars. if you're so right, then they just like putting wheels that are too wide on cars and calling it a day i guess.
These guys know cars through and through. They aren't simpletons buying wheels and coilovers, they're true enthusiasts and fabricators.
http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11983
and
http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5196
and one more
http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4238


You make it sound like they're a bunch of rebels hell bent on "ruining" cars and hurting people. And the injury part is BS, look at the post above me for more evidence that it's safe.

And don't try to pin this all on the youth. There are guys out there much older than me that have been doing it for a very long time, it's always been around but now it's just gaining more popularity.

/Rant
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Just gonna bump that while i'm at it...

OwensRacing
Basically when the "Stance" crowd admits what they are doing is for looks and looks only is when we can get along.


To be honest guy the bent axle look reminds me of my kids old hot wheels that have been smashed and bent the axles. I mean seriously my kids asked if the Civic posted jumped and broke his car. hahahaha that is reality people.
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In response to your first part, i'm pretty sure that this "stance crowd" that you're referring to doesn't parade around saying that what their car is running is the perfect performance oriented set up. and if you look at their cars, they aren't trying to be race car drivers. i forgot that a B3 Passat is the ideal track car :rolleyes:. they don't need to admit anything, they are who they are and they know what they are doing. they don't need to change the way they do things just to get along with close minded people like you.

and the second part, laughing at something that someone else built for them self to meet their needs... real classy 👍.

this kind of stuff is the reason why i rarely post here anymore.
 
OwensRacing
Everyone has the right to like what they want. Just remember this is a Racing Simulator sight. People here are racers. As well many of us are have experience in set up of real cars. So to be disrespectful to advice on racing site about racing is just wrong.



OK I kinda want to prove a point to myself here. Someone post the setting they are using to get this "stance" look. I mean the extreme Stance shown here. Then I will take that set up and put it on a Civic, make some laps on Tsukuba. Turn around and set it up proper and see what difference is.
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The camber I use for my drift cars in GT5 is 3.0 up front and 3.5 in the back. I use it for drifting so try it out on Deep Forest or something.
 
OwensRacing
Basically when the "Stance" crowd admits what they are doing is for looks and looks only is when we can get along.
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I think anyone involved will tell you first they are doing it strictly for looks. In fact, no one is doing it for performance oriented setups. Along with staggered wheels with a lower offset and width in the rear, like a RWD car.

quicksterdc5
someone said stance?
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These cars are among the dumbest **** I've ever seen in the automotive community
 
happycorey
I think anyone involved will tell you first they are doing it strictly for looks. In fact, no one is doing it for performance oriented setups. Along with staggered wheels with a lower offset and width in the rear, like a RWD car.



These cars are among the dumbest **** I've ever seen in the automotive community
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You forgot about ricers.

Stance/European car styles are easily the best when it comes to show cars.

But that's my opinion, and I respect yours.

BTW bbs rs are famous for two things, classic BMW racing cars and then the european vw scene, this is genuinely the reason I think PD included BBS rs. Smart move imo.

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If only the MKI was premium.
 
Still not perfect "Stance" but this is the setup I use for drifting, working pretty well, 25k Eiger Norwand :cool:

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sher_da_putt
BTW bbs rs are famous for two things, classic BMW racing cars and then the european vw scene, this is genuinely the reason I think PD included BBS rs. Smart move imo.
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RS wheels are the best looking wheels ever, I'm about to buy one set for my E36, and they only cost 900€, I think thats bargain! I really hope he haven't sold them already!
Oh by the way they are 16" and in front 8" wide and in the back 10,5"
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R1xStar
That's a beauty.

Makes me want to euro out my RL vw polo.
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Im looking forward to getting my first car some time at the end of this year, as I will be 17 and should be driving a mk4 golf :) But do I put in the effort of driving with bb's trying to avoid every other moment of my life not curbing them... lol we'll see
 
R1600Turbo
Seriously. Also a reason I got out of the Honda crowd...
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For good reason. If your car doesn't look as stupid, it seems like it's irrelevant in todays import scene. But that is if your car isn't stolen by the time you can even fit your new ill fitting wheels
 

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