GP of China!

[Metar]

WTF does Hamilton deserve bad luck for? For simply driving like a natural talent all season? For putting in fantastic performances that have gotten him to within touching distance of the Championship?

Nobody deserves it, I just said it was his turn...

 

[<_Spike_>]

All Hamilton has done this season is drive.

 

[Metar]

And Raikkonen? And Massa? And on the track, Alonso?

I said it, and I'll say it again - none deserved that luck. It's just Hamilton's turn to have something break.

 

[<_Spike_>]

>.> Alonso did. Karma mate. Though Kimi and Massa didn't as such. They were just in a poor car.

 

[Lee]

1st: Massa
2nd: Hamilton
3rd: Heidfeld
4th: Raikkonen
5th: Alonso
6th: Kubica
7th: Kovalinen
8th: Button

 

[Omnis]

I hope Lewis gets this. I wouldn't want Alonso to win the championship.

Word. Lewis deserves the driver's c'ship and Ferrari deserves the constructors.

 

[darkfinal]

Not really, I just fail to see how Hamilton has been smug, he's talked sense and spoken the truth. Then again...with what the Spanish have said about him and his family, I'm not really surprised at any Spaniards reaction towards him . I actually liked and respected Alonso up until this season when he became 6 years old and started PMSing all over the place.

WTF does Hamilton deserve bad luck for? For simply driving like a natural talent all season? For putting in fantastic performances that have gotten him to within touching distance of the Championship?

Let me ask this, if it's all down to "having Ferrari in his car", then why have Ferrari been so unreliable and average? If their car was really that good and that beneficial towards McLaren's, they'd have done a lot better. Simply put, Ferrari have not been the better car. They have been unreliable and slow, McLaren have been slow at times but always reliable. Is that a crime just because some other team other than Ferrari are bullet proof for a season?


On a side note, I'd also like to add that this is an opinion shared by several F1 fans I regularly watch the races with who don't even support McLaren or Hamilton and who also agree the unbelievable hostility from some towards Hamilton is not only unwarranted but unnecessary.

Spoken the truth... Heee... Yeah. Just like he didn't use the -****- word in Hungary, right?

I've read your whole post, but honestly, I don't feel like trying to debate your points. It would lead us to nowhere, since I hate Hamilton's falsety (to my eyes) with all my guts and you have him atop an altar. Too biased to see past our noses.

 

[Only_in_f1]

I hope:

1.Nando
2.Kimi
3.Hami

 

[Slick Rick]

Well Im going to predict:

1. Kimi
2. Hamilton
3. Alonso
4. Heidfeild
5. Massa
6. Webber
7. Fisi
8. Rosberg
9. Couthard
10. Kubica

 

[D0wNForc3]

On a side note, I'd also like to add that this is an opinion shared by several F1 fans I regularly watch the races with who don't even support McLaren or Hamilton and who also agree the unbelievable hostility from some towards Hamilton is not only unwarranted but unnecessary.

oh, u must be right then. my bad.

 

[peterjford]

1st: Massa
2nd: Hamilton
3rd: Heidfeld
4th: Raikkonen
5th: Alonso
6th: Kubica
7th: Kovalinen
8th: Button

that would be my prediction for Brazil. For China I think Raikkonen will do better than 4th.

 

[Alex.]

The ferrari's will be strong at china, the thing we need to know is how close can the mclarens get..

 

[Blake]

Haven&#8217;t seen that sort of a picture for a long time.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

Practice Session 1 Results:

Practice Session 2 Results:

 

[Danny]

Take that one, Sutilians.

Who might Nakajima be?

 

[daan]

GP2 racer and Williams test driver, I believe.

 

[Muzaffar]

Haven&#8217;t seen that sort of a picture for a long time.

Wait, are they using a metal underbody? Or was it some damage underneath the car? Whatever it is, its down right awesome!
🤬, Another Ferrari-McLaren battle, but Nakajima 9th? Well the Williams seems fast during practice but come the race, its totally different 👎

 

[Blake]

Take that one, Sutilians.

Everyone knows that Dan picks his nose… and that Sutil is quicker than Liuzzi.

 

[Metar]

More organized:

Friday Practice 1:

Pos  	No  	Driver  		Team 			Time/Retired  	Gap  	Laps
1 	6 	Kimi Räikkönen 		Ferrari 		1:37.024 		24
2 	1 	Fernando Alonso 	McLaren-Mercedes 	1:37.108 	0.084 	18
3 	5 	Felipe Massa 		Ferrari 		1:37.128 	0.104 	21
4 	2 	Lewis Hamilton 		McLaren-Mercedes 	1:37.210 	0.186 	20
5 	16 	Nico Rosberg 		Williams-Toyota 	1:37.707 	0.683 	23
6 	10 	Robert Kubica 		BMW 			1:38.055 	1.031 	23
7 	12 	Jarno Trulli 		Toyota 			1:38.208 	1.184 	30
8 	3 	Giancarlo Fisichella 	Renault 		1:38.217 	1.193 	16
9 	38 	Kazuki Nakajima 	Williams-Toyota 	1:38.270 	1.246 	30
10 	9 	Nick Heidfeld 		BMW 			1:38.445 	1.421 	13
11 	4 	Heikki Kovalainen 	Renault 		1:38.551 	1.527 	17
12 	11 	Ralf Schumacher 	Toyota 			1:38.661 	1.637 	23
13 	14 	David Coulthard 	Red Bull-Renault 	1:38.700 	1.676 	25
14 	7 	Jenson Button 		Honda 			1:38.942 	1.918 	18
15 	8 	Rubens Barrichello 	Honda 			1:38.945 	1.921 	22
16 	22 	Takuma Sato 		Super Aguri-Honda 	1:39.238 	2.214 	23
17 	18 	Vitantonio Liuzzi 	STR-Ferrari 		1:39.497 	2.473 	22
18 	15 	Mark Webber 		Red Bull-Renault 	1:39.535 	2.511 	23
19 	23 	Anthony Davidson 	Super Aguri-Honda 	1:39.539 	2.515 	20
20 	19 	Sebastian Vettel 	STR-Ferrari 		1:39.898 	2.874 	24
21 	21 	Sakon Yamamoto 		Spyker-Ferrari 		1:40.126 	3.102 	27
22 	20 	Adrian Sutil 		Spyker-Ferrari 		1:40.149 	3.125 	26

Friday Practice 2:

Pos  	No  	Driver  		Team 			Time/Retired  	Gap  	Laps
1 	6 	Kimi Räikkönen 		Ferrari 		1:36.607 		31
2 	1 	Fernando Alonso 	McLaren-Mercedes 	1:36.613 	0.006 	28
3 	5 	Felipe Massa 		Ferrari 		1:36.630 	0.023 	29
4 	2 	Lewis Hamilton 		McLaren-Mercedes 	1:36.876 	0.269 	33
5 	12 	Jarno Trulli 		Toyota 			1:37.151 	0.544 	36
6 	15 	Mark Webber 		Red Bull-Renault 	1:37.450 	0.843 	34
7 	11 	Ralf Schumacher 	Toyota 			1:37.524 	0.917 	32
8 	14 	David Coulthard 	Red Bull-Renault 	1:37.617 	1.010 	27
9 	16 	Nico Rosberg 		Williams-Toyota 	1:37.646 	1.039 	36
10 	3 	Giancarlo Fisichella 	Renault 		1:37.970 	1.363 	32
11 	4 	Heikki Kovalainen 	Renault 		1:38.062 	1.455 	21
12 	7 	Jenson Button 		Honda 			1:38.205 	1.598 	41
13 	8 	Rubens Barrichello 	Honda 			1:38.304 	1.697 	40
14 	10 	Robert Kubica 		BMW 			1:38.379 	1.772 	39
15 	9 	Nick Heidfeld 		BMW 			1:38.388 	1.781 	16
16 	17 	Alexander Wurz 		Williams-Toyota 	1:38.531 	1.924 	32
17 	23 	Anthony Davidson 	Super Aguri-Honda 	1:38.975 	2.368 	38
18 	18 	Vitantonio Liuzzi 	STR-Ferrari 		1:39.065 	2.458 	36
19 	20 	Adrian Sutil 		Spyker-Ferrari 		1:39.224 	2.617 	37
20 	22 	Takuma Sato 		Super Aguri-Honda 	1:39.360 	2.753 	37
21 	19 	Sebastian Vettel 	STR-Ferrari 		1:39.404 	2.797 	34
22 	21 	Sakon Yamamoto 		Spyker-Ferrari 		1:40.051 	3.444 	38

Looks like Hamilton is now getting 0 feedback from Alonso - and if things continue like this, it may well still be a tight finish in Brazil. And Liuzzi is doing well!

 

[Danny]

Everyone knows that Dan picks his nose… and that Sutil is quicker than Liuzzi.

Test times show the contrary.

And

 

[Metar]

Alright people. Listen to what the prophets have to say!

Weather-prophets, that is.


Strong rain possible:
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/ne...kender/Typhoon-threatens-Chinese-GP/view.html

Confirmed by AccuWeather:
Saturday: Weather
Sunday: Weather

 

[Appie]

Good to see that Toyota and Honda are doing well in practice

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

Looks like Hamilton is now getting 0 feedback from Alonso

You aren't still buying this pathetic excuse from Alonso are you? Heck, if you are really going to believe what Alonso says then explain last week where Hamilton out qualified and out paced him in the race?

Alonso made the same claim early in the season, and said he stopped giving him "help" way back then... and still miraculously Hamilton has beaten his times on several occasions... maybe Alonso should be asking help from Hamilton? Seriously, even Alonso stopped using this excuse a while back after Hamilton continued to still beat his times.

Besides, let's assume for just a second they use the same set up the whole year... which I seriously doubt considering physical differences and driving styles, but if they are the same, then that just makes Alonso losing to Hamilton even more evidence that Hamilton is the better driver... which I don't think Alonso is trying to point out.

Maybe you were just being sarcastic and you forgot to put the "" at the end.

 

[Metar]

Nope, I'm just referring to comments stating that he's struggling with his setup.


And Alonso, obviously, doesn't appear to be. As Blake noticed, the two McLarens use different rear wings, as well.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

Nope, I'm just referring to comments stating that he's struggling with his setup.


And Alonso, obviously, doesn't appear to be.

So Hamilton was only 1 tenth of a second slower in session 1 and 2.6 tenths of a second slower in session 2 and that&#8217;s how you determined Hamilton is struggling and Alonso isn't?

If you are going to make claims of struggling, I would think Hamilton would have to be well off pace, and several spots back in the field... not just two spots back of Alonso in practice sessions. If that's what you consider struggling, I suspect there are 18 other drivers that wish they were "struggling" like Hamilton, most of which who are more than a second slower than Hamilton.

Besides, let us also not forget that all Hamilton has to do to win the championship is to earn just 9 points in two races... and that's only if Alonso wins both races. So while Alonso has to push his car to it's max, Hamilton doesn't have to... yet he still seems to be posting very similar lap times... so again, this is hardly any evidence that Hamilton is "struggling".

 

[Danny]

Looks like Kimi has full spot ons.

 

[Danoff]

Everyone knows that Dan picks his nose&#8230; and that Sutil is quicker than Liuzzi.

I was picking my nose when I read this. That totally weirded me out.

 

[CAMikaze]

Haven’t seen that sort of a picture for a long time.

Wait, are they using a metal underbody? Or was it some damage underneath the car? Whatever it is, its down right awesome!

I agree with you. Kudos to the photographer who took the picture.👍

Alright people. Listen to what the prophets have to say!

Weather-prophets, that is.


Strong rain possible:
http://formula-1.updatesport.com/ne...kender/Typhoon-threatens-Chinese-GP/view.html

Confirmed by AccuWeather:
Saturday: Weather
Sunday: Weather

There was some mention of a typhoon forming in that article at the first link you gave. And according to the hourly forecast that AccuWeather has, the storms may start overnight Saturday and go into Sunday and might be raining during the race. Has me wondering if the rain will be as intense as the storms that took place during the Japanese Grand Prix last week.

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but is the main grandstand at the track has the grid and pit lane under any sort of cover or roof overhead? If my memory is serving me right, my guess is that may be the only dry spot on the track come race time if it's raining.

 

[Digital-Nitrate]

Saturday Final Practice Session Results:

No big surprises leading up to qualifying. The "Elite 4" are all within about 1/4 of a second of each other. Ralf's time isn't a shock either. Toyota has often done well in practice... but rarely in qualifying. I suspect Ralf is trying to go out with a bang... although what kind of "Bang" is yet to be determined.



As for what would make the most interesting final two races, consider the following scenario:

China Race Results:

• P1 = Kimi
• P6 = Alonso
• P8 = Hamilton

Brazil race Results:

• P1 = Alonso
• P2 = Kimi
• P9 = Hamilton

Unless I'm mistaken, that would result in a three way tie, with each driver having 108 points.

Kimi and Alonso would win the first tie breaker round by having 5 wins each compared to Hamilton with 4.

Kimi and Alonso would continue the tie breaker through round two by having the same amount of second place finishes (4).

Kimi wins the Championship tie breaker in the third round by having 4 third place finishes compared to only three for Alonso...

Kimi Raikkonen wins the 2007 Championship.


Likelihood? Less than 1% chance, but still, it would make for a wild ending to a wild season in F1.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Wait ... I was under the impression they did a countback in the event of a tiebreaker; if Kimi and Alonso won in Shanghai and Sao Paulo respectively, Alonso would take the title because he'd won the final round.

But then again, maybe I'm confusing it with old rules or another series ...

I suspect Ralf is trying to go out with a bang...

Wouldn't common sense dictate that if he gave this effort in every race, he woldn't worry about his team firing him? Or does that make too much sense?