[Gran Turismo 5 @ E3 2010] (SEE POST 1!: New Vids, Pics, Interviews!)

[squishydk]

I sincerely doubt a reviewer will judge a game lower to punish it for taking a long time to develop, unless a game has therefor already dated and become obsolete, not something GT5 is in danger of becoming yet.
And if you only read one poor review of any product and blindly follow that you might wish to get better informed in general.
Not sure where GT5 will rank but it will probably rank quite high as it will be judged by its content, not the time it took.

So if you should review a McDonalds bigmac, and one took 1 min to make, while the other was hyped and took 5 hours to make, with a small difference.. you would honestly think that your review wouldn't be influenced by that?

Obsolete is a strong word, but if you are spending 5 years in this industry developing a game, there will be a lot of areas where the competition just have newer and more advanced options. In the high-release months, you can almost see it from month to month. So yes GT5 will, in some areas, be and seem like an older game. Wich it ofc is in all fairness.


Personally i have quite a few friends who have traded their PS3 for a box cause they are tired of all the waiting. And i highly doubt they will be coming back. So GT5 will loose customers, numbers will depend on alternatives though.

Anyhow - squeeze the E to < and you get a lot of <3 to E3....

 

[TokyoDrift]

Personally i have quite a few friends who have traded their PS3 for a box cause they are tired of all the waiting. And i highly doubt they will be coming back. So GT5 will loose customers, numbers will depend on alternatives though.

Same here - although I have a strong feeling that once GT5 lands, it will have been worth the wait. As such, a lot of those people who traded up will suffer some kind of remorse and get another PS3 so they can play the game they wanted to all along.

 

[yossigab]

About "Gran Turismo 5" guy...
I have read all his posts (using his page) and although I have no relation to him in any way (I wish I had...) for me he sounds like speaking true.

Let me summaries what I think in my opinion:
1) This guy is very much related to PD and KY himself. He could be a PD or Sony employer or some public-relation guy working for PD (most of his posts are like mysterious poetry.... much like Nostradamus...)
2) It sounds like PD (and KY) are very sorry in the current situation and they agree that
they made a lot of public-relations mistakes - but this is all going to change now...
2b) Since PD/KY/Sony are finally have a solid public-relation plan until GT5 release, this guy can't tell anything which has not been confirmed yet, but...look at 3
3) We all get more and more GT5 news until E3 2010 which will be huge
4) E3 2010 will be the blown date for GT5, and 2010 will release much before end of 2010
5) This guy is 100% confident in every post he has, and until now, by gathering all his the pieces it looks like GT5 (the game, not the guy...) will have:
a) livery editor
b) a lot of tracks (more than 20/70 combination ???)
c) great (or the greatest) racing game
as mentioned above, he can't confirm all this but he did give some hints.
6) I believe this guy, and I think we should "keep" him and not be angry at him. Let's move along through time and I'm sure that when time comes and GT5 news will arise this guy could give us more detailed info for every thing he can.

 

[TokyoDrift]

About "Gran Turismo 5" guy...
I have read all his posts (using his page) and although I have no relation to him in any way (I wish I had...) for me he sounds like speaking true.

Let me summaries what I think in my opinion:
1) This guy is very much related to PD and KY himself. He could be a PD or Sony employer or some public-relation guy working for PD (most of his posts are like mysterious poetry.... much like Nostradamus...)

How do you know he is related just by the posts he makes? Anybody can write such poetry, especially when it is only stuff he knows you all want to hear.

2) It sounds like PD (and KY) are very sorry in the current situation and they agree that
they made a lot of public-relations mistakes - but this is all going to change now...

Anything can be made to sound like anything in such a case, and of course SONY and PD would have wanted to release the game already, but for reasons we do not know, they didn't/couldn't.

2b) Since PD/KY/Sony are finally have a solid public-relation plan until GT5 release, this guy can't tell anything which has not been confirmed yet, but...look at 3

In other words, he can say what he wants and nobody can prove or disprove anything, at least until E3. Convenient.

3) We all get more and more GT5 news until E3 2010 which will be huge

You hope. Besides, what news? This guy hasn't given us any news yet.

4) E3 2010 will be the blown date for GT5, and 2010 will release much before end of 2010

It doesn't take much of a genius to know that only one of two key dates will be used to blow the top off this can, and everything already points to a 2010 release. So what's new?

5) This guy is 100% confident in every post he has...

Isn't it amazing how people can sound confident in forums, stuck behind a computer display?!

...and until now, by gathering all his the pieces it looks like GT5 (the game, not the guy...) will have:
a) livery editor

You hope. This has been discussed many times already, and was even in a list of features in a presentation that Kaz gave.

b) a lot of tracks (more than 20/70 combination ???)

You hope. This has also been discussed based on interviews etc.

c) great (or the greatest) racing game
as mentioned above, he can't confirm all this but he did give some hints.

You hope. Again, it's a fair assumption that GT5 is going to be a great, if not one of the greatest racing games once it releases. How does this constitute first-hand knowledge?

6) I believe this guy, and I think we should "keep" him and not be angry at him. Let's move along through time and I'm sure that when time comes and GT5 news will arise this guy could give us more detailed info for every thing he can.

Right now, he has given me nothing to make me believe he has any more information about GT5 than we already know. Most of it is simply stuff that people want to hear - and that's why people believe it. I'll believe it when E3 passes and we can see just how much was true, and only then will he have credibility (or not, as the case may be). That is unless he can prove his case in the meantime, which I doubt, because of a convenient mention of confidentiality etc.

The only unusual thing for me is the fact that the name "Gran Turismo 5" was still available when he registered. Now, this is either just pure fluke that nobody picked it because we all assumed it would have gone already, or, the name was held back upon request.

 

[yossigab]

How do you know he is related just by the posts he makes? Anybody can write such poetry, especially when it is only stuff he knows you all want to hear.


Anything can be made to sound like anything in such a case, and of course SONY and PD would have wanted to release the game already, but for reasons we do not know, they didn't/couldn't.


In other words, he can say what he wants and nobody can prove or disprove anything, at least until E3. Convenient.


You hope. Besides, what news? This guy hasn't given us any news yet.


It doesn't take much of a genius to know that only one of two key dates will be used to blow the top off this can, and everything already points to a 2010 release. So what's new?


Isn't it amazing how people can sound confident in forums, stuck behind a computer display?!


You hope. This has been discussed many times already, and was even in a list of features in a presentation that Kaz gave.


You hope. This has also been discussed based on interviews etc.


You hope. Again, it's a fair assumption that GT5 is going to be a great, if not one of the greatest racing games once it releases. How does this constitute first-hand knowledge?


Right now, he has given me nothing to make me believe he has any more information about GT5 than we already know. Most of it is simply stuff that people want to hear - and that's why people believe it. I'll believe it when E3 passes and we can see just how much was true, and only then will he have credibility (or not, as the case may be). That is unless he can prove his case in the meantime, which I doubt, because of a convenient mention of confidentiality etc.

The only unusual thing for me is the fact that the name "Gran Turismo 5" was still available when he registered. Now, this is either just pure fluke that nobody picked it because we all assumed it would have gone already, or, the name was held back upon request.

In my post I did say that this is what I think. You can think what ever you want but you don't need to push it so hard...
Also, I don't see any reason why some new guy creating an account in a big GT5 forum will start throwing hints of info like he knows all about it, if he has nothing behind it (that will be shown later on). This guy could be "erases" by the forum members if he is acting as you think.

 

[GTjazzabrandy]

Can this guy just sthu now!

 

[dazzi]

You people disgust me, where is your proof that this guy isnt from PD? if you dont know shut up because its a free forum. We especially the Gran turismo 5 fans are not supposed to be yelling at any glimpse of new news seriously we should take all news and look at it carefully. At this moment this guy hasnt been banned and Im sure if he was someone dodgy Jordan would have done so already. Now take your fingers get them off the keyboard unless you have something useful to post!. What's worse is that some of these abusive posts are comming from Members who constantly say that GT5 will be out this year? why are you in such denial then, Im really agitated by some of you now its a public forum not a Auschwitz.

 

[James2097]

There is absolutely not a jot of evidence that this Gran Turismo 5 guy has any inside knowledge whatsoever. The only piece of evidence regarding his credibility - his account was apparently created on April 1st.

I think the most likely explanation, by a long long way, is he's enjoying taking the very religious-like fanbase for a ride, by promising things we all want to believe. I've resisted even responding at all myself, as its so damn likely he's just laughing at absolutely any reaction he gets, and how much of a scene he can create.

The way some people are reacting its like PD are all Gods, and this cryptic forum guy is Jesus or something, asking us to be nice and wait to get into heaven, whilst giving no evidence why we should believe him.

If we're sensible, Gran Turismo 5's posts are by far and away likely to be a well done prank, proving in quite sad fashion just how easily the GT faithful (religion analogy again) are tricked by some mildly competently written (tire) smoke and (wing) mirrors. Of course, I'm coming across all negative - but I really don't dislike the guy, in fact I find the way he's creating such a stir quite funny. But I don't BELIEVE him. At all.

Edit: That being said, if he comes out with some genuinely cool news, and backs it up with pics or other clear evidence, I'll eat my hat and admit I'm wrong. But to approach this like we should take his word as 50-50 maybe true, maybe false is really silly. So far its more like 99-1, with 99% chance he's taking the piss.

 

[fasj6418]

There is absolutely not a jot of evidence that this Gran Turismo 5 guy has any inside knowledge whatsoever. The only piece of evidence regarding his credibility - his account was apparently created on April 1st.

I think the most likely explanation, by a long long way, is he's enjoying taking the very religious-like fanbase for a ride, by promising things we all want to believe. I've resisted even responding at all myself, as its so damn likely he's just laughing at absolutely any reaction he gets, and how much of a scene he can create.

The way some people are reacting its like PD are all Gods, and this cryptic forum guy is Jesus or something, asking us to be nice and wait to get into heaven, whilst giving no evidence why we should believe him.

If we're sensible, Gran Turismo 5's posts are by far and away likely to be a well done prank, proving in quite sad fashion just how easily the GT faithful (religion analogy again) are tricked by some mildly competently written (tire) smoke and (wing) mirrors. Of course, I'm coming across all negative - but I really don't dislike the guy, in fact I find the way he's creating such a stir quite funny. But I don't BELIEVE him. At all.

Edit: That being said, if he comes out with some genuinely cool news, and backs it up with pics or other clear evidence, I'll eat my hat and admit I'm wrong. But to approach this like we should take his word as 50-50 maybe true, maybe false is really silly. So far its more like 99-1, with 99% chance he's taking the piss.

Couldn't have said it any better.

Camon guys, it's the Internet!

 

[McLaren]

Also, I don't see any reason why some new guy creating an account in a big GT5 forum will start throwing hints of info like he knows all about it, if he has nothing behind it (that will be shown later on). This guy could be "erases" by the forum members if he is acting as you think.

I could create another account right now & type everything he just posted.

You people disgust me, where is your proof that this guy isnt from PD? if you dont know shut up because its a free forum.

Post proof he is, then?


Gran Turismo 5 is coming.

The winds say so.

And we will rejoice soon.

E3 will bring great news.

It's not hard to write this garbage. 👎

 

[dazzi]

But where is your proof he isnt? its a battle neither of us can win so just let it be.

 

[James2097]

The burden of proof is on him, not us.

I could come in and say:

"E3 is on the horizon
We will ride into the sunset
Not only four wheels
We shall kick our heels"

Which would heavily imply GT5 will have bikes, and the burden of proof would definitely be on ME to back that claim up, just like its on this Gran Turismo 5 guy to back up that the 'ground he walks on' is different to a 12 year old's bedroom carpet with nacho stains.

According to some, I could make that hypothetical claim about bikes, then seriously expect EVERYONE else must prove me wrong somehow, or else I deserve to be taken seriously. Get real people. The burden of proof doesn't exist equally both ways AFTER someone makes an anonymous claim that is inherently very unlikely to be true.

 

[pay2021]

Kazunori Yamauchi is a tired man.

He works too hard.

He sleeps little.

He is obsessed in his work.

His life, hardly intact.

Still, he pursues his love.

His celebration is near.

It's close.

I know it.

And now you do, too.

I shall steal nothing from him.

For it is he who will give birth to such a great creation.


If news be snow, prepare for a blizzard.

Hi

Welcome

Is not necesary to write in

that

way

some words here

another here

here more

c`mon!!!

Lets talk like civilized peopple, if you have news please share with us, end of mistery.

Sorry

my

english.

 

[Coiler]

It's just a kid writing BS about all we knew from a long time...

 

[SgtWhitten]

About "Gran Turismo 5" guy...
I have read all his posts (using his page) and although I have no relation to him in any way (I wish I had...) for me he sounds like speaking true.

Let me summaries what I think in my opinion:
1) This guy is very much related to PD and KY himself. He could be a PD or Sony employer or some public-relation guy working for PD (most of his posts are like mysterious poetry.... much like Nostradamus...)
2) It sounds like PD (and KY) are very sorry in the current situation and they agree that
they made a lot of public-relations mistakes - but this is all going to change now...
2b) Since PD/KY/Sony are finally have a solid public-relation plan until GT5 release, this guy can't tell anything which has not been confirmed yet, but...look at 3
3) We all get more and more GT5 news until E3 2010 which will be huge
4) E3 2010 will be the blown date for GT5, and 2010 will release much before end of 2010
5) This guy is 100% confident in every post he has, and until now, by gathering all his the pieces it looks like GT5 (the game, not the guy...) will have:
a) livery editor
b) a lot of tracks (more than 20/70 combination ???)
c) great (or the greatest) racing game
as mentioned above, he can't confirm all this but he did give some hints.
6) I believe this guy, and I think we should "keep" him and not be angry at him. Let's move along through time and I'm sure that when time comes and GT5 news will arise this guy could give us more detailed info for every thing he can.

Nah, Its a troll. Why would a PD employer waste so much time writing this mumbo jumbo they have work to do lol.

 

[TokyoDrift]

In my post I did say that this is what I think. You can think what ever you want but you don't need to push it so hard...
Also, I don't see any reason why some new guy creating an account in a big GT5 forum will start throwing hints of info like he knows all about it, if he has nothing behind it (that will be shown later on). This guy could be "erases" by the forum members if he is acting as you think.

Obviously it is what you think, you wrote it

You people disgust me, where is your proof that this guy isnt from PD? if you dont know shut up because its a free forum. We especially the Gran turismo 5 fans are not supposed to be yelling at any glimpse of new news seriously we should take all news and look at it carefully. At this moment this guy hasnt been banned and Im sure if he was someone dodgy Jordan would have done so already. Now take your fingers get them off the keyboard unless you have something useful to post!. What's worse is that some of these abusive posts are comming from Members who constantly say that GT5 will be out this year? why are you in such denial then, Im really agitated by some of you now its a public forum not a Auschwitz.

Likewise. Where is your proof that this guy is from PD? It is indeed a free forum, so people are free to express their views and opinions just like you are doing here. Just because you disagree does not mean that you should go around telling people to shut up and to get off the keyboard unless they have something useful to post. You think what you posted there is useful?

When somebody comes along claiming to have insider knowledge about a highly anticipated game, expect them to get questioned. Sure, there is nothing to say he is lying, but there is also nothing to say he is stating the truth. All we have is somebody who appeared out of nowhere, claiming to know things that most people do not. If you believe him, fine, leave this thread and live a happy life. I personally do not believe him at face value, and need proof. If that proof comes in the form of E3, that's fine, and if it all turns out to be true, I have no problem in eating humble pie (not that I need to eat it just because I doubted somebody and asked for proof). If some of it turns out to be true, depending on how much, it could just be pure coincidence, because all I'm reading so far is stuff that people want to hear, and that any of us could logically guess.

 

[pay2021]

Nah, Its a troll. Why would a PD employer waste so much time writing this mumbo jumbo they have work to do lol.

Totally waste of time, can PD give a d*** release date, such simple and things like this not going to happen.

Sorry my english.

 

[SgtWhitten]

Want some really epic hint dropping, then check this out http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/108/1081856p1.html

Note: Unrelated to GT5, it just a good way of dropping a hint...

 

[Coiler]

Obviously it is what you think, you wrote it


Likewise. Where is your proof that this guy is from PD? It is indeed a free forum, so people are free to express their views and opinions just like you are doing here. Just because you disagree does not mean that you should go around telling people to shut up and to get off the keyboard unless they have something useful to post. You think what you posted there is useful?

When somebody comes along claiming to have insider knowledge about a highly anticipated game, expect them to get questioned. Sure, there is nothing to say he is lying, but there is also nothing to say he is stating the truth. All we have is somebody who appeared out of nowhere, claiming to know things that most people do not. If you believe him, fine, leave this thread and live a happy life. I personally do not believe him at face value, and need proof. If that proof comes in the form of E3, that's fine, and if it all turns out to be true, I have no problem in eating humble pie (not that I need to eat it just because I doubted somebody and asked for proof). If some of it turns out to be true, depending on how much, it could just be pure coincidence, because all I'm reading so far is stuff that people want to hear, and that any of us could logically guess.

Yep, it's easy to guess that we get a media blowout at e3, don't need to be a insider to know that.

 

[Tenacious D]

Some of you people need an emotional stomach band, I swear... anyway,

Obsolete is a strong word, but if you are spending 5 years in this industry developing a game, there will be a lot of areas where the competition just have newer and more advanced options. In the high-release months, you can almost see it from month to month. So yes GT5 will, in some areas, be and seem like an older game. Wich it ofc is in all fairness.

This is incorrect thinking. Just like saying that 100 years shouldn't make much difference in Mercedes Benz developing their automobiles.

Four years of development time made a huge difference with Killzone 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4. Those games really pushed the envelope in graphics and content of combat/adventure games, and MGS4 may never be equaled.

There are three very significant areas in which GT5 seems to have put those five years to good use:

• Content - cars and tracks
• Graphics
• Physics

And who knows what else we'll be getting? And look, while many of us were expecting 4-500 to as few as 150 cars, one brave soul predicted 1000 cars. And of course he got some rather derisive laughter from some here. This is a number of vehicles we could normally only dream of. And before some smart alec starts bringing up duplicates, I'll submit the number 800, double what we were expecting in GT5.

GT5 might seem like a dated game to you because it may not have as good a damage system or whatever, but that should only matter to those who get the game to wreck their cars and check it. Or livery editors, which I'll grant you I want to see badly. Or weather or whatever.

On the other hand, I'm gonna get behind the wheel of a Mk III Supra or 240SX and smile, and smile, as the new physics comes to life in my hands...

That will never be obsolete.

 

[yossigab]

Want some really epic hint dropping, then check this out http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/108/1081856p1.html

Note: Unrelated to GT5, it just a good way of dropping a hint...

Well, actually, in the article it doesn't mentioned who's the sender so it could be related to GT5 after all.... just kidding, this is more suitable for myth/fantasy type of games.

Anyway, of course that this Gran Turismo 5 guy shall proof his claims, and I guess this will happen as we are closer to E3.

All I'm saying - just give this guy a break. Even if you don't believe this guy in any word. You might be wrong in your speculations, BUT I want this guy to be an active gtplanet member when news will start to pop up the surface, and then we could start asking the questions. But in the way you are acting I don't see why he will continue to write in the forum, which could be a big lose for all of the forum members.

 

[Horde_R35]

I think i believe him! I mean his intriguing in his posts. But what i find more intriguing is how no one else thought of "Gran Turismo 5" for a nick name in this forum... could it be like "reserved" for someone?! Someone special?! Coincidence?! or everything happens for a reason?! Thats is strange...

 

[SgtWhitten]

Anywho with that all behind us..... how does everyone intend on staying sane whilst waiting for E3? I have Uni work to keep me busy and I'm going to train up on GT5P and the TT demo.

 

[TokyoDrift]

Anywho with that all behind us..... how does everyone intend on staying sane whilst waiting for E3? I have Uni work to keep me busy and I'm going to train up on GT5P and the TT demo.

How are you going to train up on the TT demo when it is no longer playable? Or, am I missing something?!

 

[unv412]

Some of you people need an emotional stomach band, I swear... anyway,

GT5 might seem like a dated game to you because it may not have as good a damage system or whatever, but that should only matter to those who get the game to wreck their cars and check it. Or livery editors, which I'll grant you I want to see badly. Or weather or whatever.

On the other hand, I'm gonna get behind the wheel of a Mk III Supra or 240SX and smile, and smile, as the new physics comes to life in my hands...

That will never be obsolete.

👍👍👍

It is the whole reason I play LFS......no weather, crap damage modelling and a livery editor I dont touch because its not my thing...... at the same time long to match race my cuz in his daily driver MA70 against my R31 in GT5 👍👍👍

 

[Horde_R35]

How are you going to train up on the TT demo when it is no longer playable? Or, am I missing something?!

Same thing i was thinking!

 

[analog]

All I'm saying - just give this guy a break. Even if you don't believe this guy in any word. You might be wrong in your speculations, BUT I want this guy to be an active gtplanet member when news will start to pop up the surface, and then we could start asking the questions. But in the way you are acting I don't see why he will continue to write in the forum, which could be a big lose for all of the forum members.

People get overtly serious regarding speculation or rumours about GT5, and you're absolutely right he hasn't made any false claims yet as his claims need to be proven yet.
If he's just a joker, at least he isn't offensive or trolling, just politely putting some slightly cryptic messages across and you can take them serious, ignore them or be slightly amused by it.
I'm not sure what to make of him, but if he's the real deal, let's just let him do his thing and not overreact as we'll be sorry to lose him as a wellinformed forum member.
If not, what's the harm done? He will be corrected by the mods if he makes false claims and if you're reading this Gran Turismo 5, please give us a slight hint perhaps cryptic or even beyond cryptic showing why we should give you any cred if you're "allowed".

 

[SgtWhitten]

How are you going to train up on the TT demo when it is no longer playable? Or, am I missing something?!

Dammit I could for about a week after it ended so I just assumed I was still playable, oh well I'll crack on with GT5P instead.

 

[TokyoDrift]

Dammit I could for about a week after it ended so I just assumed I was still playable, oh well I'll crack on with GT5P instead.

The time trial expired on 24th January or something like that. I know I could play it and not record times for a while, but then it just stopped working - around that data most likely.

I just race around in GTHD now - can't be bothered with Prologue as it's on Blu-ray, and I've got other disc-based games on the go at the moment!

 

[Dan_]

His account was created in April 1st indeed, as some of you guys stated, so this might be only a bad joke, because he didn't bring nothing new to the light. '-.-

Move on guys, this is the E3 thread, not the Gran Turismo 5 thread..... , no, I meant, this is the Gran Turismo 5 forum indeed, but it's not jus about the Gran Turismo 5 user and ....never mind....