Gran Turismo 7 Car & Track List Prediction

[05XR8]

He says it was 8 years in the making. That puts it right on schedule to be in GT7.

 

[Sharpie]

He says it was 8 years in the making. That puts it right on schedule to be in GT7.

Must be really fast .

 

[MIE1992]

I wonder if the fact that many of the Gr.4 cars in GT Sport are made-for-game versions has something to do with licensing? I wouldn't doubt it. It's too bad about that deal that Motorsport Games has with Le Mans, and the newer WEC cars, but maybe they'll be a bit less strict than EA was with Porsche. And as another poster mentioned, I was also curious about what's going on with DTM licensing, as they seem like an obvious shoe-in for Gr.2.

With this in mind, I could see some VGTs being good for Gr.1, especially the Lamborghini VGT and Jaguar VGT SV. But I thought the Ferrari Hypercar entry would've been perfect for a potential Gr.1 car in a future GT title. Otherwise, we'd be stuck with just the 333SP. I never really considered this deal with Motorsport Games - it's entirely new information to me.

I also suppose this is why we're unlikely to see the return of the Ferrari F2007 and F10, the Lotus 98T, and Mercedes-AMG W08 in the same game, though I'd personally put each into Gr.X since they're so mechanically different from each other. It'd be nice to see all four of these models, perhaps even alongside other grand prix racers like a Lotus from the 60s, or a car from before even that era, like a Mercedes or Bugatti.

EDIT: Alternatively, I'd be down for more made-for-game racers that bypass licensing hassles - I bet the F1500T-A was one such example. Maybe we could also get other PD-designed Grand Prix cars, like one modeled on one from the 60s. I think that more made-for-game cars, especially those in Gr.3, offer GT more of an identity over other racing games, as well as the VGTs.

I do wonder if, instead of actually getting DTM in Gr.2, we could see made-for-game racers in that group instead, as that could be a great way to have more automakers in Gr.2 aside from those that've raced in Super GT500. And even if the cars that PD decides to put into Gr.2 are from the same automakers as those that were in DTM, they could be based on different models. So for example, maybe PD would decide against using the M3 nor M4 for the basis of BMW's Gr.2 car, but maybe even something like the new Z4 or M8. This is also before we figure out how the late-90s GT1 cars would fit into the current groups - we already know that GT1 cars from both before and after this period would go to Gr.3, as we can see with the McLaren F1 GTR '95 and the Aston Martin DBR9 '08, which in itself could set a very interesting precedent for more cars from those two eras to join Gr.3, like the Maserati MC12, Saleen S7-R, or the Sard MC8R.

But back to the topic of licensed Grand Prix cars, I bet we'll see only one or two such cars in GT7 - or in any GT title at a given time. So I could see us losing the Mercedes-AMG W08 in favor of a newer machine from the same team, especially if GT7 expands on the series' relationship with Lewis Hamilton. I bet the return of the Senna cars is somewhat unlikely, but I'd gladly welcome them back. But I think it's improbable that we'll see the return of the Ferrari F2007 and F10 from GT5. Ah, whatever. A massive list of licensed race cars isn't everything - I'd much prefer to see how a diverse list of cars impacts gameplay, such as via hybrid systems, transmission types, what available modifications may be available, or how they fit into a given group for racing.

 

[DefNotJake]

How far fetched would it be to predict that Polyphony might add the oval portion of Monza as an extra layout in GT7? It's already featured in scapes, but not in the game as an layout for existing Monza. iRacing and Assetto Corsa already have it in their games. Both games, definitely take themselves more seriously than Gran Turismo.

 

[05XR8]

Another prediction: The KTM X-BOW GTX

This car won on debut, at the 2021 Super Taikyu Motegi 5 Hour

 

[BigSarj]

I was watching some Canadian Tire Motorsport Park (formerly known as Mosport) onboard footage on YouTube last night and I think it would be a great track for this game, or any other game. It has a rich history and is considered by many to be the best track in Canada.

Would anyone agree?

 

[Famine]

I was watching some Canadian Tire Motorsport Park (formerly known as Mosport) onboard footage on YouTube last night and I think it would be a great track for this game, or any other game. It has a rich history and is considered by many to be the best track in Canada.

Would anyone agree?

Probably the people voting for it in the Suggestions forum - but how is this a prediction?

 

[GBalao888]

Another prediction: The KTM X-BOW GTX

This car won on debut, at the 2021 Super Taikyu Motegi 5 Hour

Wonder what category that might be in, Gr. 3? Well, KTM has an X-Bow GT4 so that means if this is a Gr. 3 car and the X-Bow GT4 gets added, then KTM is eligible to compete in the Manufacturers' Series.

 

[05XR8]

Wonder what category that might be in, Gr. 3? Well, KTM has an X-Bow GT4 so that means if this is a Gr. 3 car and the X-Bow GT4 gets added, then KTM is eligible to compete in the Manufacturers' Series.

It ran in the ST-1 class(a class between GT3 and GT4), versus a 911 GT3 Cup car and a GR Supra(non-GT4). It did beat some STX(GT3) cars, to finish 9th overall.

GT3/GR.3 would most likely be the class to place it in.

 

[alphaV12]

Other prediction: Sugo. It a japanese track where Super GT cars compite. In GT series there are many Super GT and JCGT cars, so Sugo can be a good addition, like Autopolis.

 

[MIE1992]

I could see there being another American course somewhere on the east coast to compliment Daytona, since there are plenty of courses on the west coast between Laguna Seca, Willow Springs, and most recently, Trial Mountain. I'd be personally down for Lime Rock Park since it's both in my state and IMSA does race there - heck, they even used to race prototypes there, even though it's mostly just GTLM/GTD these days.

But even though the west coast has plenty of representation, I can't say I'd mind Sonoma Raceway, either. As another idea for a course on the east coast, I could see the Brooklyn E-Prix course coming to GT7, especially if Kaz is serious about adding Formula E. As another alternative, I'd love to see an original course in Miami Beach, perhaps modeled on the proposed Grand Prix circuit, as I keep wondering how much fun it'd be to sprint across those bridges that connect the various man-made islands. Then there could be some fun across Ocean Drive at night, in front of all those art-deco, neon-lit buildings that sit in front of the sea...

 

[wagnerFAM98]

I'm still intrigued by the fact PD has chosen to place the new Trial Mountain in exactly the same region as the old El Capitan. It felt like they were saying: "oh, we do remember El Capitan but we won't bring the actual track back, instead we'll use its location to revive a PS1 classic".

Way before the GT7 trailer release, I had a pretty strong feeling that El Capitan would make a return. Now seeing what happened, it brings the chances of El Capitan's comeback to basically zero. It's really curious because you have thousands and thousands of scenery to choose from around the world to place a fictional track, and they went right at the Sierra Nevada mountains to build up the new Trial Mountain.

But after all, I'm actually okay with these decisions, it's just way too interesting not to mention.

 

[05XR8]

Other prediction: Sugo. It a japanese track where Super GT cars compite. In GT series there are many Super GT and JCGT cars, so Sugo can be a good addition, like Autopolis.

Yeah, that and Motegi. I don't know if those courses cost as much as Suzuka. Only the two versions of Suzuka and Autopolis. Not expecting to get all layouts of Motegi.

 

[MadMax97]

I'm still intrigued by the fact PD has chosen to place the new Trial Mountain in exactly the same region as the old El Capitan. It felt like they were saying: "oh, we do remember El Capitan but we won't bring the actual track back, instead we'll use its location to revive a PS1 classic".

Way before the GT7 trailer release, I had a pretty strong feeling that El Capitan would make a return. Now seeing what happened, it brings the chances of El Capitan's comeback to basically zero. It's really curious because you have thousands and thousands of scenery to choose from around the world to place a fictional track, and they went right at the Sierra Nevada mountains to build up the new Trial Mountain.

But after all, I'm actually okay with these decisions, it's just way too interesting not to mention.

Well I wouldn't say it's impossible, maybe there is some chance for el capitan

 

[Monkey Man]

Agreed. I wouldn't write it off completely.

 

[alphaV12]

The new GR 86 has been announced officially. Taking into account the relationship PD-Toyota, i believe that GR 86 will be in GT7. It may even be the mandatory starter car (GT5 flashback)

 

[Famine]

Other prediction: Sugo. It a japanese track where Super GT cars compite. In GT series there are many Super GT and JCGT cars, so Sugo can be a good addition, like Autopolis.

Yeah, that and Motegi. I don't know if those courses cost as much as Suzuka. Only the two versions of Suzuka and Autopolis. Not expecting to get all layouts of Motegi.

This is part of why Sugo is such an odd "prediction" - although the fact the user twice posted it in wishlists in the thread is the main part.

GT might have had plenty of Super GT/JGTC cars in the past, but GT Sport has precisely six Super GT cars - three from 2008 and three from 2016. It seems that either GT isn't as interested in licensing cars from the series as it once was, or the series isn't as interested in licensing its cars to GT as it once was (and it has suspended its English-language race broadcasts on YT...).

Even then, GT hasn't ever had a full complement of circuits from the series. Autopolis only arrived with GT Sport, but the game also dropped Motegi from GT4/5/6. Sugo has never been in a GT game, Okayama has never been in a GT game, and the fly-away circuits of Sepang and Buriram have never been in a GT game. As of the last unaffected season in motorsport (2019), GT Sport has three of Super GT's seven circuits - and the same three of the same six Super Formula circuits (SF doesn't race at Buriram/Sepang). Across its life it has had four out of eight, but never more than three in one game.

A prediction is speculation with reasoning. To broadly paraphrase, "GT games have had Super GT cars, so GT7 will have another one of the Super GT tracks" isn't particularly effective reasoning when the most recent game is missing every Super GT car from 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020 and 60% of the circuits used in the last 20 years, and that specific track has never been in any GT game ever.


Motegi is a slightly safer prediction, because although many of the same things apply it was at least in Gran Turismo games from 2004 to 2017.

 

[alphaV12]

This is part of why Sugo is such an odd "prediction" - although the fact the user twice posted it in wishlists in the thread is the main part.

GT might have had plenty of Super GT/JGTC cars in the past, but GT Sport has precisely six Super GT cars - three from 2008 and three from 2016. It seems that either GT isn't as interested in licensing cars from the series as it once was, or the series isn't as interested in licensing its cars to GT as it once was (and it has suspended its English-language race broadcasts on YT...).

Even then, GT hasn't ever had a full complement of circuits from the series. Autopolis only arrived with GT Sport, but the game also dropped Motegi from GT4/5/6. Sugo has never been in a GT game, Okayama has never been in a GT game, and the fly-away circuits of Sepang and Buriram have never been in a GT game. As of the last unaffected season in motorsport (2019), GT Sport has three of Super GT's seven circuits - and the same three of the same six Super Formula circuits (SF doesn't race at Buriram/Sepang). Across its life it has had four out of eight, but never more than three in one game.

A prediction is speculation with reasoning. To broadly paraphrase, "GT games have had Super GT cars, so GT7 will have another one of the Super GT tracks" isn't particularly effective reasoning when the most recent game is missing every Super GT car from 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020 and 60% of the circuits used in the last 20 years, and that specific track has never been in any GT game ever.


Motegi is a slightly safer prediction, because although many of the same things apply it was at least in Gran Turismo games from 2004 to 2017.

Kazunori said that the new GT7 will have a great representation of Japanese car culture, so i think that GT7 could add old JGTC and GT500 cars, tuners cars (Spoon, Nismo... ) or maybe some japanese circuit. However, in GT Sport there aren't many SuperGT cars, like you say, but i suppose it's due to the esports approach to the game. Anyway, GT7 will be, according to Kaz, the perfect form of Gran Turismo, so it is a possibility.

 

[Famine]

Kazunori said that the new GT7 will have a great representation of Japanese car culture

Actually he said he feels that GT has inherited the responsibility of promoting Japanese car culture. He didn't mention GT7.

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt7-kazunori-octane-japan-20210130/

so i think that GT7 could add old JGTC and GT500 cars, tuners cars (Spoon, Nismo... ) or maybe some japanese circuit.

It could do almost anything, but that's not the point of this thread. This thread is for predictions. Predictions need reasoning.

However, in GT Sport there aren't many SuperGT cars, like you say, but i suppose it's due to the esports approach to the game.

What a baffling thing to say. You somehow think that an established racing series is unsuitable for esports?

Anyway, GT7 will be, according to Kaz, the perfect form of Gran Turismo

Mmm, no. He said that it will be "a combination of the past, present, and future of Gran Turismo". He didn't mention "perfect form", though he did say "complete form" - which would suggest rolling the features of the current game (esports, livery editor) in with past games.

https://www.gtplanet.net/next-gran-turismo-will-be-a-combination-of-past-present-and-future/

Sugo isn't in GT's past or present. It might be in the future, but then so might literally anything else; there's no better reason to suppose Sugo will come to GT7 than Okayama, and a worse reason than Motegi.

so it is a possibility.

So is almost anything, but that's not the point of this thread. This thread is for predictions. Predictions need reasoning.

 

[alphaV12]

Actually he said he feels that GT has inherited the responsibility of promoting Japanese car culture. He didn't mention GT7.

https://www.gtplanet.net/gt7-kazunori-octane-japan-20210130/

Ups. I have got confused. Sorry.

It could do almost anything, but that's not the point of this thread. This thread is for predictions. Predictions need reasoning.

I wanted to say that, if GT has the responsibility of promoting Japanese car culture, PD could add JGTC cars, GT500 cars and tuners cars like Nismo, Spoon or Mine's.

What a baffling thing to say. You somehow think that an established racing series is unsuitable for esports?

I have explained myself wrong. SupeGT is a good racing series (i like it). I wanted to say that, in the Manufacture and Nation Series, Gr.2 has little prominence. For that reason i think that there are only 6 SuperGT cars in GT Sport.

Mmm, no. He said that it will be "a combination of the past, present, and future of Gran Turismo". He didn't mention "perfect form", though he did say "complete form" - which would suggest rolling the features of the current game (esports, livery editor) in with past games.

https://www.gtplanet.net/next-gran-turismo-will-be-a-combination-of-past-present-and-future/

That is what i wanted to say. GT7 will be a complete form of Gran Turismo, not a perfect form (i hope it is true )

Sugo isn't in GT's past or present. It might be in the future, but then so might literally anything else; there's no better reason to suppose Sugo will come to GT7 than Okayama, and a worse reason than Motegi.

I say Sugo because i think that would be a great addition in GT7. It is a circuit where the SuperGT compite. I didn't say it randomly. If you are not agree with me or you think that other circuit is better to add in GT7, i will respect it. GOOD VIBES .

So is almost anything, but that's not the point of this thread. This thread is for predictions. Predictions need reasoning.

Actually, all is a possibility. Someone can say why a car or a track can be in GT7, he says a lot of reasonable arguments and this car or track is not in GT7. I want to say that, no matter how much reasoning there is in a suggestion, this doesn't confirm that it is in the game. But i understand you. If you want to say a suggestion, that it has logical arguments to support it. I think that i say arguments about why Sugo can be add in GT7, but now you leave me in doubt.
Edit: how do i respond as you or other have? i have gone wrong

 

[MIE1992]

I would bet cold, hard cash that more PS1/PS2-era original courses will return in GT7, and likely with notable changes like with Trial Mountain. Honestly, the only one I don't think needs much change is Apricot Hill. But I don't think any of the city courses from GT4 will return, especially when some locales like Hong Kong and NYC already have real-world Formula E street circuits, especially considering that PD/Kaz has expressed interest in adding Formula E to Gran Turismo.

Otherwise, I wonder what PS1/PS2-era original courses could return? I do hope as many PS3/PS4-era original courses return as possible, but that's besides my point. I really doubt Complex String would return, as well as the Super Speedway and the Test Course, especially since the latter two are made redundant by real-world ovals like the Twin Ring Motegi oval and Special Stage Route X, respectively. I also don't know how Cote d'Azur will work with licensing, though it'd be stellar if we could get the modern Monaco GP course.

So my bets for returning original courses includes Grand Valley - including the east and west layouts - but also Deep Forest. (Speaking of layouts, I wonder why Suzuka West wasn't in GT Sport? Ah, whatever - let's just hope it's there in GT7.) Those two seem the most cherished among fans, so I don't think Autumn Ring, the aforementioned Apricot Hill, or stuff like Midfield Raceway will be as likely, though I'd still welcome them if they return as well.

The Special Stage and Clubman courses - barring Route X - somehow feel redundant when we have the Tokyo Expressway courses, so I don't see those returning either. I think I'd much rather have new, additional courses based on the Tokyo Expressway locale, such as a potential North and West layout.

As for the various non-tarmac courses like Smokey Mountain or Swiss Alps, I'd much rather see them get re-imagined as point-to-point time attack stages, like an actual rally stage would be. As for the latter, I'd be fine with just having the Matterhorn and Eiger Nordwand locales return, since I think those are both technically in the Swiss Alps. (In fact, I recall that the Eiger Nordwand locale was quite close in proximity to the real-world location of the Grindelwald course from GT2.)

EDIT: Or, instead of any of those - Matterhorn, Grindelwald, Eiger Nordwangd, Swiss Alps - we could get the Formula E circuit for the Bern race, or even the Zurich race.

 

[MadMax97]

I would bet cold, hard cash that more PS1/PS2-era original courses will return in GT7, and likely with notable changes like with Trial Mountain. Honestly, the only one I don't think needs much change is Apricot Hill. But I don't think any of the city courses from GT4 will return, especially when some locales like Hong Kong and NYC already have real-world Formula E street circuits, especially considering that PD/Kaz has expressed interest in adding Formula E to Gran Turismo.

Otherwise, I wonder what PS1/PS2-era original courses could return? I do hope as many PS3/PS4-era original courses return as possible, but that's besides my point. I really doubt Complex String would return, as well as the Super Speedway and the Test Course, especially since the latter two are made redundant by real-world ovals like the Twin Ring Motegi oval and Special Stage Route X, respectively. I also don't know how Cote d'Azur will work with licensing, though it'd be stellar if we could get the modern Monaco GP course.

So my bets for returning original courses includes Grand Valley - including the east and west layouts - but also Deep Forest. (Speaking of layouts, I wonder why Suzuka West wasn't in GT Sport? Ah, whatever - let's just hope it's there in GT7.) Those two seem the most cherished among fans, so I don't think Autumn Ring, the aforementioned Apricot Hill, or stuff like Midfield Raceway will be as likely, though I'd still welcome them if they return as well.

The Special Stage and Clubman courses - barring Route X - somehow feel redundant when we have the Tokyo Expressway courses, so I don't see those returning either. I think I'd much rather have new, additional courses based on the Tokyo Expressway locale, such as a potential North and West layout.

As for the various non-tarmac courses like Smokey Mountain or Swiss Alps, I'd much rather see them get re-imagined as point-to-point time attack stages, like an actual rally stage would be. As for the latter, I'd be fine with just having the Matterhorn and Eiger Norwand locales return.

I think Grand Valley, Deep Forest, High Speed Ring, Route 5 (clubman and special), MidField, Cote D'Azur, those have a good chance to come back, as well as Cape Ring, Eiger Norgwaland, Sierra, and some others


Special Stage Route 11, Red Rock Valley, Hong Kong, Mugello, Autumn Ring, Citta D'Aria, Chamonix, London, Motegi and many others are not as likely, altough still kinda possible. We will see


Hope a new trailer in May/June 2021 so we can see more footage about GT7 and how development went further since June 2020 state of play

 

[MIE1992]

I think Grand Valley, Deep Forest, High Speed Ring, Route 5 (clubman and special), MidField, Cote D'Azur, those have a good chance to come back, as well as Cape Ring, Eiger Norgwaland, Sierra, and some others


Special Stage Route 11, Red Rock Valley, Hong Kong, Mugello, Autumn Ring, Citta D'Aria, Chamonix, London, Motegi and many others are not as likely, altough still kinda possible. We will see


Hope a new trailer in May/June 2021 so we can see more footage about GT7 and how development went further since June 2020 state of play

Why not Motegi? Also, I'd love to see Sierra return, since I skipped GT6. Cape Ring had a charm to it, too. But what about Cote d'Azur? Aren't there potential licensing issues for that one?

 

[ScottPuss20]

Kazunori said that the new GT7 will have a great representation of Japanese car culture, so i think that GT7 could add old JGTC and GT500 cars, tuners cars (Spoon, Nismo... ) or maybe some japanese circuit. However, in GT Sport there aren't many SuperGT cars, like you say, but i suppose it's due to the esports approach to the game. Anyway, GT7 will be, according to Kaz, the perfect form of Gran Turismo, so it is a possibility.

Assetto Corsa on PC will satisfy this desire. There are plenty of mods out there for Super GT and JGTC cars, along with tracks such as Okayama and Sugo. You can even play it on a PS4 controller.

 

[05XR8]

That's why I'm wondering about Motegi. With its many layouts(plus an oval with Motegi's name attached), is it more to licence than Suzuka? Or Spa even?

The choice to place Autopolis over Motegi, seems odd. By stretching a thought, Autopolis does have a history of hosting World Sports Cars(Group C). We got the Group C cars in game. Same reason for having Super GT 500 cars? Only PD know.

Not just for Super GT events, Motegi also hold Super Taikyu(endurance) events.
The pandemic may have restricted PD to Japan only circuits. If PD had plans to gather new global real world circuits over 2020, for GT7 release in 2021, Japanese circuits make good fillers.

 

[wagnerFAM98]

I feel wagons and SUVs are making a return, even if in small numbers. This is a new face we're very likely to see, since it won the Japan Car of the Year 2020-2021 award.

 

[SuperSportX]

Assetto Corsa on PC will satisfy this desire. There are plenty of mods out there for Super GT and JGTC cars, along with tracks such as Okayama and Sugo. You can even play it on a PS4 controller.

Assetto Corsa was awful with a controller, atleast for me but it might've been the settings I was using.

 

[NickXP]

I believe GT7 will have many original fictional GT tracks like Trial Mountain mainly because of covid. Jim Ryan has said that coronavirus has impacted certain aspects of the game. I believe it is probably more difficult for PD staff to travel to different countries to capture data from tracks for the game so they could have used their own tracks instead.

 

[wagnerFAM98]

I believe GT7 will have many original fictional GT tracks like Trial Mountain mainly because of covid. Jim Ryan has said that coronavirus has impacted certain aspects of the game. I believe it is probably more difficult for PD staff to travel to different countries to capture data from tracks for the game so they could have used their own tracks instead.

But Kaz has already confirmed they have to travel to a certain location to capture data from the environment even if the circuit is fictional, because since GT Sport's development they've been placing all new original tracks into real places. That's why the new Trial Mountain moved from nowhere to Sierra Nevada, US. PD will certainly do that with every classic original track currently with an unspecified location if they decide to bring it back for GT7.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I feel wagons and SUVs are making a return, even if in small numbers. This is a new face we're very likely to see, since it won the Japan Car of the Year 2020-2021 award.

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The car isn't guaranteed to appear because of this award...

Assetto Corsa was awful with a controller, atleast for me but it might've been the settings I was using.

Yeah the out of the box settings aren't very good. You have to increase the sensitivity because the steering is too slow.