Gran Turismo 7 Engine Swap Compatibility

[rlx]

First post updated!

Keeping track of engine swaps by their introduction - did I get them right?

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Thank you!

In the first post, wouldn't "Only some cars can receive swaps (144 from 514 to date)" have to be changed to "155 of 519"?

Also, I'm wondering why the list of swaps by introduction only has 150 entries. Shouldn't there be 160?

 

[tankuroded]

Thank you!

In the first post, wouldn't "Only some cars can receive swaps (144 from 514 to date)" have to be changed to "155 of 519"?

Also, I'm wondering why the list of swaps by introduction only has 150 entries. Shouldn't there be 160?

I probably missed some updates - I realized I missed 1.35 and added it, but that meant I missed another update(s).

EDIT: Confirming 1.40 is also missing, will add.

 

[F30clubman]

Just realized how bad the rest of the new swaps are.. it seems there is a 13 year old boy in charge of engine swaps in PDI. 🤣 Makes no sense what so ever.

Yes, such interesting, more realistic combinations would be possible, like the Maserati Merak engine into the Citroën DS (in the absence of the SM) or the Porsche 356 Fuhrman engine into the VW Beetle.

And other interesting engines to swap, like the 1954 Ferrari Mondial, with its formula 2 engine and the 1955 Mercedes F1 engine (what an impressive sound when it passes by).

 

[tankuroded]

This video may seemingly justify why the Evo 8 has the LS7-BRZ swap (and the drag wing):


Also if anyone is keeping track of references in addition to that, the 992 Turbo S swap on the 991 GT3 RS is seen as reference to the 991 GT2 RS.

 

[LensenGT]

This video may seemingly justify why the Evo 8 has the LS7-BRZ swap (and the drag wing):


Also if anyone is keeping track of references in addition to that, the 992 Turbo S swap on the 991 GT3 RS is seen as reference to the 991 GT2 RS.

Would you or someone else have a compilation of these references to insert into this topic?

 

[MIE1992]

I wonder if the first post should be updated with the costs of each engine as well? Not that it’s hard to figure out - simply half the cost of the car the engine comes from, plus 100k - but wouldn’t it be convenient? It could just be for the first half of the post, where the swaps are sorted by engine rather than by model.

Also, while I still think the 2JZ-swapped GR Yaris is the most cost-efficient swap in the game, were there other comparable swaps that I might be forgetting? I’m mostly considering the cost of both the GR Yaris itself plus the swap, as well as the fact that the GR Yaris is AWD, making it great with a torque distribution controller. I’ve also been able to tune it from 550 PP all the way to 700 PP, making it very versitile for various regulations - including those that are on dirt/snow. I’d imagine the 2JZ-swapped GR Corolla would be similarly great, but beyond those two, does anything really compare? Maybe it’s just me…

 

[Aloha62_2]

The Jimny with K swap utterly murders 550-600pp events. Surprising traction with wide wheels even at 500bhp and on Sports Hards, that's quite a potent budget package.

As long as the race doesn't feature fuel consumption...

 

[MIE1992]

The Jimny with K swap utterly murders 550-600pp events. Surprising traction with wide wheels even at 500bhp and on Sports Hards, that's quite a potent budget package.

Sounds like I'll have to give it a swing, but the GR Yaris with a 2JZ can even reach 700 PP, if I recall right. But either way, I'd imagine it'd especially be fun with a torque distribution controller.

As long as the race doesn't feature fuel consumption...

Is it because the Jimny is AWD? Then again, so is the GR Yaris...

 

[Aloha62_2]

Is it because the Jimny is AWD? Then again, so is the GR Yaris...

I think it's because it's a high strung drift engine. At 550pp it will use 1/4 of a tank at the 3 lap high speed ring clubman event, but will also tickle 190mph while doing so and lap ~5s a lap faster than my TVR at the same pp.

 

[ScottPuss20]

The Jimny with K swap utterly murders 550-600pp events. Surprising traction with wide wheels even at 500bhp and on Sports Hards, that's quite a potent budget package.

As long as the race doesn't feature fuel consumption...

Speaking of budget, I think the Subaru Impreza WRX STI '14 with the 992 911 Turbo engine is great bang for buck.

 

[Lilium]

We all know the brappucino is the most cost effective swap.

Because it murders everything, and you if you tune it sensibily, to lets say, 350-400hp with a low turbo, its a super handy mini RX-7 that works great on sport tyres and sips fuel.

 

[johnson_57]

We all know the brappucino is the most cost effective swap.

Because it murders everything, and you if you tune it sensibily, to lets say, 350-400hp with a low turbo, its a super handy mini RX-7 that works great on sport tyres and sips fuel.

I Call mine the "Rotorcino" and it has Dom's RX-7 livery. It is still my fastest car at Tokyo 600.

 

[MIE1992]

On another note, I do have a spare VK45 from the '08 GT-R GT500, but I've already put one into a Nissan Fairlady Z '08, so that means the only other car I could put it into is the Gr.4 Silvia Touring Car. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that swapped cars are ineligible for BoP-enabled events, right? So I wonder what any Gr.4 car with a swapped engine could be good for. I suppose I could still see how such a car does in the WTC 700, or perhaps the Clubman Cup races. If not there, then I suppose there's always fooling around in lobbies, haha!

 

[MidnightRun85]

So i tried out the LS7 swap into the Volvo last night. Maxed out tune, cannot keep up at SSRX... anyone had any luck with extracting some decent top end out of this thing? I couldn't get it past 405kph without a slipstream.

 

[NJ72]

So i tried out the LS7 swap into the Volvo last night. Maxed out tune, cannot keep up at SSRX... anyone had any luck with extracting some decent top end out of this thing? I couldn't get it past 405kph without a slipstream.

It has the aerodynamic properties of a shipping container and you're confused as to why it won't go as fast as some far more aerodynamic vehicles?

405kph for a giant brick is AMAZING

 

[MidnightRun85]

It has the aerodynamic properties of a shipping container and you're confused as to why it won't go as fast as some far more aerodynamic vehicles?

405kph for a giant brick is AMAZING

That's a fair point... it's just that at over 1200hp/1,000kg, it should absolutely fly, yet loads of cars with MUCH lower power/weight ratios destroy this. It is pretty quick for a shipping container though. 🤣

 

[Aloha62_2]

That's a fair point... it's just that at over 1200hp/1,000kg, it should absolutely fly, yet loads of cars with MUCH lower power/weight ratios destroy this. It is pretty quick for a shipping container though. 🤣

Drag squares with speed, and that girl got some drag.

 

[Meythia]

That's a fair point... it's just that at over 1200hp/1,000kg, it should absolutely fly, yet loads of cars with MUCH lower power/weight ratios destroy this. It is pretty quick for a shipping container though. 🤣

Power is for topspeed, weight is how fast you get there, power to weight doesnt mean much more depending on how much tyretraction there is.
Just compare the Maverick swaps of Cayman to the Shelby 350 to see the different the aerodynamical shape makes.

 

[pink fiat 500]

So i tried out the LS7 swap into the Volvo last night. Maxed out tune, cannot keep up at SSRX... anyone had any luck with extracting some decent top end out of this thing? I couldn't get it past 405kph without a slipstream.

What I did with my V8 Volvo was just make my V8 supercar livery closer to the actual thing, because even with the stock engine I couldn't handle the oversteer.

 

[MIE1992]

What I did with my V8 Volvo was just make my V8 supercar livery closer to the actual thing, because even with the stock engine I couldn't handle the oversteer.

What I personally like doing with swapped cars is to not necessary see how they do with the maximum possible power, but actually de-tune it to comply with various regulations in World Circuits events whether they're enforced or not, such as the WTC 600 and Japanese Clubman Cup 550 as respective examples. I recall hearing that even if two cars have the exact same power, the one with the swapped engine may have a superior torque curve.

And more specifically, I think this was especially clear in a Daily Race that was held years ago, where you could enter with your own tuned E46 M3 as long as it complied with the event's power/weight limits - and it allowed you to enter any M3 E46 that had an engine swap from the Z4 GT3 as well. IIRC the swapped M3s did better, including my own where I got a Q1/P1 for one entry.

 

[WolfpackS2k]

Also if anyone is keeping track of references in addition to that, the 992 Turbo S swap on the 991 GT3 RS is seen as reference to the 991 GT2 RS.

Yeah, that swap is a beaut. Made a nice GT2 clone out of it.

 

[MIE1992]

I did win an engine from a four-star ticket lately, but it was my fourth 13B, and I had already swapped the first two into each model it's compatible with. So now I got two 13Bs just sitting around, alongside some other engines I've yet to find a use for, like a second Aventador SV engine, or a spare LS9 from the Corvette C6 ZR1.

Personally? When the Holiday Campaign kicks off tomorrow and I eventually log in for the engine ticket, I'm especially hoping to get an engine that's expensive, namely from the Chiron, or one of the Group C racers. Sure, I've won an engine before from the 787B, R92CP, and the Chiron, but each of those three engines have more than just one car they're compatible with, unlike the XJR-9 engine which I haven't won yet.

EDIT: My bet? I think the LS9 would thematically make sense going into the Pontiac GTO Judge, and then the Aventador SV engine could go into the Countach LP400, the Diablo GT, or maybe even the Murcielago.

EDIT2: Is it ever really worth it to swap engines with one of the Gr.4 cars? I ask because I have a spare engine from the 2008 GT-R GT500 but I’ve already put one into a Z34, so the only other option is to potentially put it into a Silvia Gr.4. I’m aware that you can’t use swapped cars in BoP events, too, but could a swapped Gr.4 car still be worth using in say, the WTC 700? I suppose I could just try finding out myself, haha.

EDIT3: It also seems that upon further research, the 26B from the 787B is the most expensive swap in the game at 1.75m credits. Meanwhile, the Chiron’s engine is tied for second alongside stuff like the XJR-9 engine, costing 1.6m. So winning another 26B when I log in for that six-star engine ticket would be amazing, though I’d be very much content with pretty much any engine that costs over 500k credits.

EDIT4: Honestly, if I win an engine from the 787B, the R92CP, or the Chiron, I’d put them into the Mazda3, R33 GT-R, and the Huracan respectively.