Gran Turismo 7 Holiday Season Login Bonus Campaign Returns for 2024

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Those price are once again a joke to those playing GT7. Sure it's nice because they dont really have to do it, but doing it like that is a bit of a shame

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These rewards are an Insult.
Why oh why do people that get 🙃 FREE 🙃 things always complain about what they get?
When I was a younger lad, if I got something for nothing regardless of what it was, I was happy to have gotten it and not complain
Why do some feel privileged to be picky about what the get for nothing?
 
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Why oh why do people that get 🙃 FREE 🙃 things always complain about what they get?
When I was a younger lad, if I got something for nothing regardless of what it was, I was happy to have gotten it and not complain
Why do some feel privileged to be picky about what the get for nothing?
The design of the ticket system is the issue. They show you great stuff and then give you, in many cases, the lowest cash prize. I don't mind 10,000cr at all, but when they also dangle 50,000 cr, 100,000 cr and two cars in front of my nose, almost always giving me the worst prize is just disappointing. As is a carbon drive shaft for a pace car from a parts ticket.

Some ideas for better/more understandable tickets:
  • 3 star tickets: 4 x times the same low cash prize, 1 x high quality prize, make the outcome truly random
  • 4 star tickets: 3 x times the same low cash prize, 2 x high quality prize, make the outcome truly random
  • 5 star tickets: 2 x ....
  • Engine tickets: Transform them into a 1 time voucher over a fixed credit amount or an "XX% off!" when buying an engine of your choice
  • Parts tickets: Transform them into a 1 time voucher over a fixed credit amount for spending in the tuning shop for whatever you like
 
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Not being funny but 100k here and 250k there is a joke. Considering it takes so long to accumulate 20 million, why couldn't they just give everyone a random 20 million car? Engine and part tickets are useless if you want to sell them. Love the way they tell you how much they're worth but wait for it.....you can't sell them. Wtf??

Oh, I have a 4 bedroom house that's worth 600k. Sorry bud, it might be worth 600k but check this out: you can't put it for sale just.... because. All you can do is tell everyone how lucky you are to have something worth 600k. Idiotic beyond belief.
 
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The design of the ticket system is the issue. They show you great stuff and then give you, in many cases, the lowest cash prize. I don't mind 10,000cr at all, but when they also dangle 50,000 cr, 100,000 cr and two cars in front of my nose, almost always giving me the worst prize is just disappointing. As is a carbon drive shaft for a pace car from a parts ticket.

Some ideas for better/more understandable tickets:
  • 3 star tickets: 4 x times the same low cash prize, 1 x high quality prize, make the outcome truly random
  • 4 star tickets: 3 x times the same low cash prize, 2 x high quality prize, make the outcome truly random
  • 5 star tickets: 2 x ....
  • Engine tickets: Transform them into a 1 time voucher over a fixed credit amount or an "XX% off!" when buying an engine of your choice
  • Parts tickets: Transform them into a 1 time voucher over a fixed credit amount for spending in the tuning shop for whatever you like
What difference does it make what they show you in the roulette table. Thats like going to a slot machine, hitting for $500 and being like, "This is some BS!! You said I could win a million dollars!!!"
 
I'm always down for an engine ticket, especially since there seem to be a ton of engines I haven't acquired previously yet. Alternatively, there are some engines that I have gotten before but only once, and can go into multiple cars, like the engine from the Bugatti Chiron. AFAIK, that one in particular is one of the most expensive swappable engines at 1.6m credits, and I've only won one of those, so winning another would be especially great as far as engines go. (For the record, the first one I had won was almost immediately put into a black Nissan GT-R Nismo '17, since I think such an engine would be amazing in an 4WD car.)
 
"The amount of free things I'm getting for doing literally nothing more than I would anyway is bad and I'm angry about it" is a choice, for sure.

Yeah, they could give more. For the other 49 weeks of the year you get nothing.
I'd prefer nothing than that.

What's your opinion ? We should applaud because they decide to give peanuts instead of nothing ?

Couldn't they at least do as much as in most weekly events ?
 
Considering you "only have to log in" these are great prices. You don't even have to race or play the game!!

They should bring the 200% boost to prize money for logging five days like GT5 did.
Absolutely. And i think it was 7 days you had to log in? Anyway doesn't matter. That system will NEVER return. Imagine if we earned more credits playing the game and keep player retention up by logging in everyday just to keep this boost on, which was exactly what i did playing GT5.
 
What difference does it make what they show you in the roulette table. Thats like going to a slot machine, hitting for $500 and being like, "This is some BS!! You said I could win a million dollars!!!"
What are the odds to make big cash at the slot machine? 1:1,000,000? Probably less. In GT7, each roulette ticket has only 5 prizes, one of which you are guaranteed to get, so there should be a very high probability you will win something worthwhile. However, because the chances in GT7 to win big would be so high, PD had to rig the game so that low-star tickets will nearly always land on the low-cash prize. Low-star tickets secretly, but deliberately favor low-cash prizes. Yet, all five prizes appear to have the same winning chance.

Thus, I suggested something like this: say you open a 3-star ticket and the game aims to reward you with 10,000 cr. Then the game should show four times the 10,000 cr prize and say one time 50,000. At first glance, the player would see that the maximum possible payout for this ticket would be 50,000 cr, which makes sense because it is only a 3-star ticket. And the chance on landing that is only 20%, while there is an 80% chance of winning 10,000 cr. That would be more just and more understandable, instead of shoving big prizes into low-star tickets and then rigging the game to give you the one low-cash prize.
 
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What are the odds to make big cash at the slot machine? 1:1,000,000? Probably less. In GT7, each roulette ticket has only 5 prizes, one of which you are guaranteed to get, so there should be a very high probability you will win something worthwhile. However, because the chances in GT7 to win big would be so high, PD had to rig the game so that low-star tickets will nearly always land on the low-cash prize. Low-star tickets secretly, but deliberately favor low-cash prizes. Yet, all five prizes appear to have the same winning chance.

Thus, I suggested something like this: say you open a 3-star ticket and the game aims to reward you with 10,000 cr. Then the game should show four times the 10,000 cr prize and say one time 50,000. At first glance, the player would see that the maximum possible payout for this ticket would be 50,000 cr, which makes sense because it is only a 3-star ticket. And the chance on landing that is only 20%, while there is an 80% chance of winning 10,000 cr. That would be more just and more understandable, instead of shoving big prizes into low-star tickets and then rigging the game to give you the one low-cash prize.
I just don't get this issue some people have. Yeah...the lowest prizes have the highest probability of being awarded. Obviously. The roulette wheel is just a visual thing. The dice were rolled and the prize was determined the second you first received the ticket. Sure, it's a clumsily implemented system and I'd argue the prizes should be on average a lot better (actually, I wish the prize was just awarded when you open the ticket - just forget making me watch a cartoon), but once you are aware of how it works (which becomes obvious pretty quickly) it really doesn't matter. A wheel that visually represented the actual probabilities would be fine too, but ultimately it doesn't change anything.
 
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They just should have tied the tickets to certain daily miles. Lower daily mileage is lower tier tickets and prizes. That way you know you'll have lower prices if you didn't play the game much that certain day. Also, it would incite players to race more daily if they want higher tier prizes.
 
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instead of shoving big prizes into low-star tickets and then rigging the game to give you the one low-cash prize.
As far as I'm aware, you'll never see a prize on a Roulette Ticket that isn't possible (edit: that is of higher value than is possible) to win from a ticket of that level. The roulette shows you the one prize you're going to get regardless and four others pulled from the pool of possible prizes from that kind of ticket - and it's also shown in a specific way. Ever noticed how you get the same credit reward every time on those all-credits tickets?

It's also pre-determined, not rigged. Rigging requires a benefit on behalf of the rigger.


And, again, even on the Daily Marathon, what you get is additive: it's a bonus you wouldn't receive otherwise.

Most may be of no or very little benefit - which is subjective; I have little use for Brand Invitations now, while others are desperate for a specific Brand Invitation* - while those that are of more significant benefit are rarer. But even 5,000cr-10,000cr from a two- or three-star ticket (the likeliest prize, at 70% of each type of ticket) is 5,000cr-10,000cr you didn't have to race for. A ticket takes a few seconds to open, so even 5,000cr tickets come out at about a rate of 1.3m credits per hour.

If you get the Daily Marathon ticket every day for a month, you'll pick up something like 1.5m in credits and parts/engine/car-purchase savings (the latter of which is less value at higher levels, yes). That's about what these Holiday/New Year login bonuses are offering - so it's four weeks' worth of Daily Marathon in three weeks (but without the pain of any three-star tickets), while also still having your four weeks. Or, effectively a double-month.


Yes, it could be more, and I'd have definitely done something slightly different if I were in charge. But it isn't, and I'm not.


*The Brand Invitation system is still bad
 
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As far as I'm aware, you'll never see a prize on a Roulette Ticket that isn't possible to win from a ticket of that level.
I am sure that it happens, in both ways, like seing a 1M on a 3 * ticket, and a 5k on a 4 * or 5 *

I remember seeing it for myself and many reports of the same type of event in the thread where the DW are listed.


The other day I had 2 cars and some change for a 6 or a 5, I knew directly that I would get one of the car, because the other prizes were too low. For once, no fear of getting again the worst prize.

Not sure about that. I don't have proof, but i'm pretty sure i once won 500.000cr with a 3 star ticket.
But you can win 500k with a 3*, it's the max possible with this level of ticket, with 1% probability. Same way : 1M with a 4*.

[Edit]found a screen caps of my example with two cars in PSApp :
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With a 6*, the min credit prize is 500k, so I knew right away that I would win one of the cars.
 
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Unimaginative.
Exactly. PD once claimed gt7 will be a great live service game. It turned out to be an extremely boring live service game with nothing but luck lustre updates, except the one big update where ps2 vr was added.
If a game runs for as long as GT does before a new iteration is released nobody should be surprised if gamers aren’t happy. The fact that people complain means they are still engaged, PD literally are lucky to have it’s fans
 
I'd prefer a bunch of two hour endurance races with a weekly rotating prize from the stock of cars locked behind an invite.
 
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