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I’ve played since day one. Could have bought the whole car list nearly four times(the last cost of all cars was about 500,000,000) and I still don’t want all the cars.
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05XR8
I’ve played since day one. Could have bought the whole car list nearly four times(the last cost of all cars was about 500,000,000) and I still don’t want all the cars.
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Something is wonky with your stats there....251,393.25 km over 21 hours means that your average speed was 11,971 km/h. Even if the first number under "Total Time Driven" was days, that would still be an average speed of 499 km/h.

Unless I'm somehow completely missing something here.

I was missing something here, that being the glitch that the hours field doesn't show anything greater than a 10s place. My bad.
 
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Didn't you notice this stats where always more than wonky? Total time driven and playtime lacks a 3rd and 4th digit (for everyone).
 
KAlex122
Didn't you notice this stats where always more than wonky? Total time driven and playtime lacks a 3rd and 4th digit (for everyone).
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I guess I didn't....but I just checked my own account and it shows an average speed of ~750 km/h LOL. My mistake.
 
05XR8
I’ve played since day one. Could have bought the whole car list nearly four times
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How comes you got 1.8B credits ??? I am not nearly at the third of that, and if I had not AFK grinded at times where it was getting us lots of credits, I'd have 1/4 of what I have acquired.
 
Lomic
How comes you got 1.8B credits ??? I am not nearly at the third of that, and if I had not AFK grinded at times where it was getting us lots of credits, I'd have 1/4 of what I have acquired.
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I built and build credits the long way. That initial Gr.B Audi grind. Sardegna, Spa, Tokyo and Le Mans. Have not done the computer stuff.
Early in the game I was getting lots of good roulette prizes.
 
05XR8
I built and build credits the long way. That initial Gr.B Audi grind. Sardegna, Spa, Tokyo and Le Mans. Have not done the computer stuff.
Early in the game I was getting lots of good roulette prizes.
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Ah ok, you grinded, manually but still. Ok I get it. Still a lot of time grinding, hopefuly you enjoyed the process 😉
 
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Lomic
Ah ok, you grinded, manually but still. Ok I get it. Still a lot of time grinding, hopefuly you enjoyed the process 😉
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Heeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllllll no. I enjoy the car I grind with and playing with the cars I buy. The process is wack.
 
05XR8
I built and build credits the long way. That initial Gr.B Audi grind. Sardegna, Spa, Tokyo and Le Mans. Have not done the computer stuff.
Early in the game I was getting lots of good roulette prizes.
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Don't you also sell all your cars and buy new ones every now and then? That affects that particular stat.
 
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Nebuc72
I've had GT4 since 2005 and still don't have all the cars in it so I don't really think this means anything.
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I’m pretty sure GT7 is the only one in the series that sort of compels you to collect every single car in the game.

Personally I’m just ignoring that collection chart and just getting the cars I’m interested in/needed for certain events.
 
NAXEHT
Don't you also sell all your cars and buy new ones every now and then? That affects that particular stat.
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For sure. Once I start getting over one hundred and fifty to two hundred cars I cull the garage. My largest car count was probably all the Group A replica E30, 190, RS500, Supra, AE86, R32.
I'm not sure selling the cars I bought add to the total Credits acquired. Haven't checked that.
 
05XR8
For sure. Once I start getting over one hundred and fifty to two hundred cars I cull the garage. My largest car count was probably all the Group A replica E30, 190, RS500, Supra, AE86, R32.
I'm not sure selling the cars I bought add to the total Credits acquired. Haven't checked that.
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Which car do you own the most? I currently have 60 WRX Gr. 4's lol.
The money I'd save if PD would introduce a 'car + livery selector' for custom races!
 
R3V
Game came out 2 years ago. It took you 2 years of having fun to still not have all the cars. "Categorically untrue" lol. Compare that to GT4.
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Yes, 2 years and counting. Still having fun and not moaning.

Therefore "I have to grind to get the cars" is untrue. What's the issue?
 
Gingerale
Which car do you own the most? I currently have 60 WRX Gr. 4's lol.
The money I'd save if PD would introduce a 'car + livery selector' for custom races!
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Car I’ve owned the most are AE86s. I’ve mentioned a while ago At the moment 10 GT-One. Other than those and the cars I use for the ‘98 & ‘99 recreations of 24H Le Mans, I've sold/discarded everything older than 2006. Waiting to see what we get in the next couple updates.
 
benjoi84
Yes, 2 years and counting. Still having fun and not moaning.

Therefore "I have to grind to get the cars" is untrue. What's the issue?
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The 'issue' is that a grind can be fun but still qualify as a grind.
I wouldn't be surprised if only <1% of the total playerbase acquired all cars.
 
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Gingerale
The 'issue' is that a grind can be fun but still qualify as a grind.
I wouldn't be surprised if only <1% of the total playerbase acquired all cars.
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I don't get why there is not a trophy for that.
 
Lomic
I don't get why there is not a trophy for that.
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PS5-era Sony first party games pretty much universally have platinum trophies that aren't super difficult or grindy.
 
Nakano219
PS5-era Sony first party games pretty much universally have platinum trophies that aren't super difficult or grindy.
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I would no qualify getting gold on all (normal) licenses as not "super difficult" but that's just me 😅 so while they were at it, I wish they've added getting gold on all CEs, and getting all the cars (up to a point for both of course as they add cars regularly and tracks sometimes)
 
benjoi84
That's no even remotely an apt response to my question.
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I believe you still need to grind, apart from all time trials, circuit experiences etc to afford all the cars in the game. The fact that some people enjoy the grind, which is perfectly fine, is not directly an argument that there is no grind. You have to race a lot of laps on LeMans/Sardegna to get the credits.
 
AlexWilmot
If you do every race once in World Circuits, excluding the Championships at the bottom you get 18,146,500.
Americas: 4,362,000 from 63 races
Europe: 8,750,000 from 86 races
Asia: 4,764,500 from 52 races
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Yes, and completing all the events around 10 million. All cars in the game are worth 490 million.
You can have a lot of fun by doing certain events to gain money, but technically its still a grind.
 
Gingerale
Yes, and completing all the events around 10 million. All cars in the game are worth 490 million.
You can have a lot of fun by doing certain events to gain money, but technically its still a grind.
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Jeez we're getting into a semantics discussion here....

Can we assume for the sake of argument that if someone complains about the "need" to grind, they aren't enjoying it?

Adversely, if someone is enjoying it there's no need for complaint in the first place?

Gingerale
I believe you still need to grind, apart from all time trials, circuit experiences etc to afford all the cars in the game.
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Not true.


Gingerale
You have to race a lot of laps on LeMans/Sardegna to get the credits.
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Not true, either.
 
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There is no user who has acquired all cars available by completing the whole single player experience once and online racing. Each and everyone had to do a bit of LeMans or Sardegna lapping.

Im not saying you shouldn't have fun and I thoroughly believe you can have it by doing it with a lot of different cars and keeping track of lap times etc, but it is and will be a race you have to do over and over again to earn 495 million credits.

Im not attacking anyone for doing it, props for you, but I feel like some people feel offended by saying thst GT7 is a grind for completionists (and always have been!!), which is not my point.
 
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Problem isn’t driving a lot or else ; it’s doing the same three events to get serious credits; I don’t care about doing 30 minutes race to win 800k or even more ; I just want the career to have at least one race like that on each track to « diversify » the grind.

Still hoping for high reward 2-3h endurance races.
 
I'm not defending the economy of the most expensive 40 or so cars in this game at all, they're ridiculously expensive.

But what I will say is: If you gave me a fresh PSN account, and said I had to either get all the cars in GT7 (without using online functionality, for fairness) or get to the max driver level in one of GT5 or GTS, I'm picking GT7 every day. I don't know if it's shorter than the GTS Blue Moon or GT5 Indy grinds, but it not being on an oval makes it several notches less tedious. For me at least.
 
Gingerale
There is no user who has acquired all cars available by completing the whole single player experience once and online racing. Each and everyone had to do a bit of LeMans or Sardegna lapping.
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell... yes, but it's closer than you might think.


Let's assume you're an A driver regularly finishing top ten in your nation in GTWS and Exhibition seasons, and hitting gold at every time trial...

There's been eight GTWS seasons that award prize money (I think... I think it came in with the official 2023 season from May to July), and you could notionally score just over 12m credits each time. That's 72m credits (actually a bit more).

Additionally there's been 70ish Online Time Trials, each awarding 2m credits, plus another four special Time Trials that I think awarded the same, and some regional special Time Trials which I won't include but will give more to some users in the USA. Call it 75 at 2m apiece, for 150m credits.

There's been a handful of special races for live events, as well as "guess the winner" events that account for about another 15m cash and car between them.

I'm earning about 1.5m a month from tickets, so with 25 months now that's 37.5m, as well as picking up about 2m of car prizes each month. Assuming half are new and half are sold, that's about 0.5m per month (12.5m) income and 1m a month (25m) saved in not having to buy cars.

There's also a mild reduction in the overall cost of the cars, by about 30m, if you gold all the single-player stuff like licences (MP4/4 notably) and the extra menus (D-Type particularly). I don't recall the current all-car cost, but it's over a half billion now.

So all in we're looking at:
Cost: 500m (total) - 30m (one-time prizes) - 25m (ticket prizes) = 445m
Income: 20m (World Circuits x1) + 50m (CE) + (whatever licences + missions pay; 25m?) + 150m (OTTS) + 72m (GTWS) + 50m (tickets) +15m (Live event tie-ins) = 382m
Difference: -63m

By the end of the next year, if there's no very expensive cars added and we get more than two GTWS seasons, it might actually tip over to a profit for the diligent and high-ranked player.

Not for the rest of us of course, though a reasonable driver can still get half that from OTTS and GTWS (I got 6m from doing ONE race in GT2 League a season or so ago), so maybe 260m in total.
 
Famine
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell... yes, but it's closer than you might think.


Let's assume you're an A driver regularly finishing top ten in your nation in GTWS and Exhibition seasons, and hitting gold at every time trial...

There's been eight GTWS seasons that award prize money (I think... I think it came in with the official 2023 season from May to July), and you could notionally score just over 12m credits each time. That's 72m credits (actually a bit more).

Additionally there's been 70ish Online Time Trials, each awarding 2m credits, plus another four special Time Trials that I think awarded the same, and some regional special Time Trials which I won't include but will give more to some users in the USA. Call it 75 at 2m apiece, for 150m credits.

There's been a handful of special races for live events, as well as "guess the winner" events that account for about another 15m cash and car between them.

I'm earning about 1.5m a month from tickets, so with 25 months now that's 37.5m, as well as picking up about 2m of car prizes each month. Assuming half are new and half are sold, that's about 0.5m per month (12.5m) income and 1m a month (25m) saved in not having to buy cars.

There's also a mild reduction in the overall cost of the cars, by about 30m, if you gold all the single-player stuff like licences (MP4/4 notably) and the extra menus (D-Type particularly). I don't recall the current all-car cost, but it's over a half billion now.

So all in we're looking at:
Cost: 500m (total) - 30m (one-time prizes) - 25m (ticket prizes) = 445m
Income: 20m (World Circuits x1) + 50m (CE) + (whatever licences + missions pay; 25m?) + 150m (OTTS) + 72m (GTWS) + 50m (tickets) +15m (Live event tie-ins) = 382m
Difference: -63m

By the end of the next year, if there's no very expensive cars added and we get more than two GTWS seasons, it might actually tip over to a profit for the diligent and high-ranked player.

Not for the rest of us of course, though a reasonable driver can still get half that from OTTS and GTWS (I got 6m from doing ONE race in GT2 League a season or so ago), so maybe 260m in total.
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Yes it's possible. I don't think anyone has achieved this ;)
Also, racing that much online could also be considered as grinding. We're talking about hundreds of hours here.

And now I'm wondering how many millions the best earning online driver has earned in total...
 
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Gingerale
Yes it's possible. I don't think anyone has achieved this ;)
Also, racing that much online could also be considered as grinding. We're talking about hundreds of hours here.

And now I'm wondering how many millions the best earning online driver has earned in total...
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seems like enough credits to me...
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