Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[Fuzzi0n]

Just as an example, I'd make around 10% less an hour in this game compared to GT Sport before the nerf. In GT5 you could make >20 million every hour using a low PP car in the seasonal events. I'd happily settle for 4-5 million an hour, that way even the most expensive car isn't stupidly far away.

If I compare this game to GTA Online, which is well known for having pricier new content to sell more microtransactions, the most expensive 'normal' car is around $3.5 million, and you can pretty easily make >$1 million an hour with a few different activities. If you then include double money weeks and the vehicle discounts, that game is far easier to afford anything in. Rockstar/Take Two make hundreds of millions a year off that game and while it does have a huge playerbase compared to GT, their microtransactions work while allowing the content to be earned ingame in a reasonable time. I've put >2200 hours into that game because even if it's a grind I generally have fun doing it and the rewards are never too far from reach. I don't feel like GT7 is in the same boat unfortunately, even more so being a single player centric game - at least it's supposed to be.

I don't really see the appeal of driving the same track for 100's of hours, or spinning a roulette wheel and leaving things up to pure RNG when what I want to do is enjoy the car content (customisation, liveries, tuning parts etc) they've added for this game. It's not like that race is even remotely difficult, it's just bloody tedious after a while - this is coming from someone who had played a bunch of grind heavy games over the years.

I'm just disappointed because there's some good stuff in GT7, but it feels like the devs don't want me to play it, rather they'd have me pay for it.

 

[ICEYOU3]

What is going on? Why can't I start my game.

 

[wheelhp]

Calm down. Take a deep breathe.

Will do, Mr trollface! Even though I'm calm, will do!

 

[Phaceless_Ph]

I get being pissed off, but carrying on when someone is just posting about a livery they like to make discussion (because all we can do is wait) is quite childish.

Jokes aside, there is a rumour that the Supra he posted was restored for the Anti Social Social Club collab and is now sitting on display inside Peaches, Seoul (also known as Peaches One Universe).

 

[HarVee]

What is going on? Why can't I start my game.

Server "maintenance". It's actually much more than that apparently according to some posters on this site PD messed up the 1.07 patch with some sort of bug. That's all I really know.

 

[MagpieRacer]

It does make me wonder what on earth kind of bug they released for this to happen. Or they fixed it and forgot to turn the server back on before leaving for the night.

That or the bug has server wiped everyone's progression and they're currently trying to figure out how to fix it.

 

[wheelhp]

Would be a contrast to the times when Kaz would sleep under his desk and work almost 24/7.

That sounds like some good reading if there's a source. What's your point exactly?

 

[MagpieRacer]

That sounds like some good reading if there's a source. What's your point exactly?

There's a whole documentary about Gran Turismo and Kaz and there's multiple videos documenting the history of Gran Turismo.

My point is, if it's a relaxed and laid back workplace now then it's a contrast to what it used to be when it was clearly all or nothing/high pressure.

 

[turk1993]

 

[Harley45]

" Hey I understand you used to work for EA and helped patch Battlefield 2042 , come and work for us "

 

[superstreet556]

I can’t wait for the next update where they add the GT Bank so we can apply for loans to buy things. Then we can go to the used car lot where Andi will put us together on a 200,000 mi Honda Civic for 1,400 Cr/mo. for 120 months with a 50,000 Cr down payment.

 

[wheelhp]

My point is, if it's a relaxed and laid back workplace now then it's a contrast to what it used to be when it was clearly all or nothing/high pressure.

Now now....Was it actually kaz working 24/7, guzzling caffeine at odd hours and not having a life for years back then? Having not looked at your sources, it's hard to tell if you're making this up!

 

[RPR6143 RPG]

And it's still down, maybe for the rest of the day 😢.

 

[mastretta_mx]

Lol PD messing the game and people on hyperbolic reactions, just a regular thursday🤭🤭

 

[HarVee]

And it's still down, maybe for the rest of the day :'(.

Most likely. I think we all need to understand that this mess up may take awhile to fix. And unfortunately we can't play the game we bought.

 

[mwoodski]

And it's still down, maybe for the rest of the day 😢.

Considering it's just past 5a in Tokyo the folks involved are probably still in bed, so yes.

 

[HarVee]

Considering it's just past 5a in Tokyo the folks involved are probably still in bed, so yes.

I don't know. If I messed up this badly I'd be having my team work paid overtime to correct the issue. Especially considering the more downtime the game has the more you might lose out on the almighty dollar dollar MTXs that seemingly are a big part of the financial strategy for this game.

 

[Terronium-12]

or spinning a roulette wheel and leaving things up to pure RNG when what I want to do is enjoy the car content (customisation, liveries, tuning parts etc) they've added for this game.

I'm about to make things worse for you because this needs to be corrected. The carousel is not RNG. The second you've been awarded the voucher, the prize you're subsequently given has already been pre-determined. No matter how many times you run the same ticket, you'll get the same prize every single time.

Don't believe me? Next time you redeem one and get a prize, quit out of the game and do it again. And again. And again ad infinitum or until you get tired of it. Don't be alarmed when you see one or two reward "possibilities" change because while that's new over GT Sport (for what reason I'll never understand) it doesn't change or modify anything.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Now now....Was it actually kaz working 24/7, guzzling caffeine at odd hours and not having a life for years back then? Having not looked at your sources, it's hard to tell if you're making this up!

"In the beginning, the team was only five-strong, including Yamauchi, and even at the end of development, less than 20 were working on it. “That made it so that the responsibility of each team member was very big and the workload was very big as well. So it took a long time to develop,” he says.

“I always found him and his team members sleeping under the desks when I came to the office in the morning,” remembers Yoshida.

“The atmosphere was sort of like a college club room,” says Yamauchi. “I would wake up in the morning and there would be a leg in front of my head.”

Source for this particular article, Sony: https://blog.playstation.com/2017/1...yoshida-look-back-at-gran-turismos-inception/

When you've been a fan of Gran Turismo as long as I and many others have, you end up knowing a fair bit of its history. I have no need or reason to make things up for the sake of it.

 

[wheelhp]

When you've been a fan of Gran Turismo as long as I and many others have, you end up knowing a fair bit of its history. I have no need or reason to make things up for the sake of it.

Hmm I'd bet there's just as many GT fans who don't know nor care about Kaz's sleep routine

 

[MagpieRacer]

Hmm I'd bet there's just as many GT fans who don't know Kaz's sleep routine

It's more about understanding game development and the term known as "crunch". Granted that requires research and reading to understand, 2 things you can't be bothered doing, but you know.

People who have been a fan of the series for a long time and take an active interest in its development and it's developers will have an understanding of how PD and Kaz work and have worked for 3 decades. And that's the sad thing, so many people attacking them and being openly aggressive on social media, have literally no clue about any of this. They've probably been working through the night to fix this, the sun is starting to rise in Tokyo now and they may not have slept yet.

 

[Hellburner]

If I would have to describe GT7 in one word, it would be: frustrating. Frustrating because you can't have access to all cars, frustrating because they took away all freedom from what used to be career mode, frustrating because they just want you spend real money and now even frustrating because I can't play it just when I finally have more than 2 hours freetime to play GT.

 

[Vinylshark]

Having played the game now for some hours I gotta say that I'm quite disappointed.
The game just feels completely empty and boring. Guess I was expecting too much when they announced "the return of the GT mode".

 

[wheelhp]

It's more about understanding game development and the term known as "crunch". Granted that requires research and reading to understand, 2 things you can't be bothered doing, but you know.

People who have been a fan of the series for a long time and take an active interest in its development and it's developers will have an understanding of how PD and Kaz work and have worked for 3 decades. And that's the sad thing, so many people attacking them and being openly aggressive on social media, have literally no clue about any of this. They've probably been working through the night to fix this, the sun is starting to rise in Tokyo now and they may not have slept yet.

Question. Are you a game dev? What games do you make and why are you so busy chatting instead of working?

 

[MagpieRacer]

Question. Are you a game dev? What games do you make and why are you so busy chatting instead of working?

That's your response? I guess I should have known better than to be able to have any kind of actual discussion with you. No, I'm not a game dev, I actively follow the gaming industry, from a game and people point of view, because it is important to understand what goes on, how things work, and how different Devs and publishers operate and work their staff.

I also don't need to give you any excuses or reason for participating in a discussion forum, you're not my boss.

 

[Phaceless_Ph]

Plot twist - the issue they found in the update was that the payouts had an extra '0' on them lol

 

[Strittan]

This is pure gold!

 

[HarVee]

If I would have to describe GT7 in one word, it would be: frustrating. Frustrating because you can't have access to all cars, frustrating because they took away all freedom from what used to be career mode, frustrating because they just want you spend real money and now even frustrating because I can't play it just when I finally have more than 2 hours freetime to play GT.

I like this. Frustrating is a really good word usage to describe this game. 👍

 

[hardvibes]

What is going on? Why can't I start my game.

I'm gonna remember this day for the rest of my life.

 

[Pfei]

I don't know. If I messed up this badly I'd be having my team work paid overtime to correct the issue. Especially considering the more downtime the game has the more you might lose out on the almighty dollar dollar MTXs that seemingly are a big part of the financial strategy for this game.

Exactly. IT work is like a doctor. You are on call. It doesn't matter what time of day it is. I do my site upgrades in the wee hours of the morning when traffic is low to minimize losses if something goes wrong and I need to restore a backup. And any time upgrades need to be done (which is similar to a videogame patch) I am mentally prepared to spend the next 36 hours to fix it if it breaks, or collapse from exhaustion, whichever happens first. It's just the way things are in IT. And I only manage a couple personal sites and a few low-key client sites.

I had a server die on me once and cause about fifteen client websites to go down. I had backups of fourteen restored within a couple hours. The fifteenth one had the backups corrupted and it took me six hours to remake it using the Google cache. These were all low-traffic, non-critical sites but even so I lost a couple clients over it.

GT7 is a multi-million dollar AAA game and the fact that they apparently do not have a disaster recovery system put in place (something that could quickly allow reverting to 1.06 or, if necessary, an earlier version) is frankly mind-boggling. PD either has a massive issue on their hands or they are redesigning the game during the downtime.