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Or maybe the Nissan Pulsar GTi-R?Constellations? He‘s clearly confirming that the Jowett Jupiter and Ford Galaxy are coming!
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Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread
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- NS_Zokeo_9
Gran Turismo 7 not listed here, so they must be polishing a few things or something. Unlikely to have a game update this week, even the normal few cars.
Maybe next week it'll be ready. We'll have to see. Could even be late November or early December.
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I'd rule out the next update to be in December, since the TBA in Spa Nations' round seems to be correlated to newly added cars, as discussed in the Thread discussing the update based on the hints we have
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- cowabungacorey
I doubt the game that they showcased PS5 Pro is waiting on polishing at this point. But it might make more sense to group all those new features together to market the Pro/content update, the world series events, and MFGT.
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If the the pro patch was finished they’d release it for launch of the pro - simple as that.
The “group features together” logic makes no sense.
Just because the vertical slice they showcased a few weeks ago looked good doesn’t mean they are ready for prime time.
PD themselves must have known for a while they were behind - I went back to check what they actually said when asked, turns out they never said they’d make launch. They said they were targeting a November release.
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- Ridley-X4
I'm interested in discussing the categorization of brands in GT7. More specifically, here's a list of topics:
1. First of all, why is Mini considered German? I understand that they got bought out by BMW around the turn of the millennium, but in a similar sense, it's not like Lamborghini is also German, nor Bugatti, despite both being own by Volkswagen AG.
2. Do you think AMG should still be its own brand? AMG-branded models were under Mercedes in GT Sport, but I'm a bit divided, as it's not as if the Nissan R35 GT-R Nismo is placed alongside the Nismo 400R. What do you suppose determines a model from an in-house tuner being listed as a car from that same tuner in itself, as opposed to under the brand that the original car came from? Could it be a matter of whether the car is "transformational," in a sense? Or perhaps in the case of the R35 Nismo, Nissan might just be using the Nismo name more akin to a trim, with Nismo being its own thing at the time the 400R was released but ultimately being straight-up absorbed into Nissan proper. Whereas maybe this didn't happen with AMG, hence AMG being its own brand in GT7. If the BMW M1 came to GT7, would it still be a BMW, or would M become its own brand as well?
3. Speaking of Mercedes, I wonder what sort of models from the company could come to GT7, without necessarily being the more powerful AMG models? I think we've covered some of the most iconic ones, like the SLR McLaren, the 190E Evo II, and the 300SL, but I have confidence there's more that could come to Mercedes-Benz proper in GT7. I could certainly see the rotary-powered C111 concept car coming, as well as the road-going version of the CLK-LM, the latter of which is far more elusive than the more famous CLK-GTR road car. But otherwise, I can only see various AMG models coming, like the G63 AMG, which could be good competition for the Lamborghini Urus. There's also the AMG ONE hypercar, or even older AMG models like the SL65 (R230) AMG Black Series that I first learned about through NFS: Hot Pursuit (2010). I think I heard something about a 500E being in the datamine, too, but I'm rightfully taking that - or any other datamine, for any franchise - with a grain of salt.
4. Now that we do have Nismo with the 400R, do you suppose TRD and Mugen could come alongside it? I admit this is more speculative, but I do personally hope we get those two, as well as the Nismo 270R and Nismo Skyline GT-R LM Road Going Version.
5. Back to that first question, I also wonder what other Mini models could come? I'd be down for a JCW-branded model, at least, or maybe even a racing version that could go into Gr.4. The return of the newer Countryman would also be welcome, by me.
1. First of all, why is Mini considered German? I understand that they got bought out by BMW around the turn of the millennium, but in a similar sense, it's not like Lamborghini is also German, nor Bugatti, despite both being own by Volkswagen AG.
2. Do you think AMG should still be its own brand? AMG-branded models were under Mercedes in GT Sport, but I'm a bit divided, as it's not as if the Nissan R35 GT-R Nismo is placed alongside the Nismo 400R. What do you suppose determines a model from an in-house tuner being listed as a car from that same tuner in itself, as opposed to under the brand that the original car came from? Could it be a matter of whether the car is "transformational," in a sense? Or perhaps in the case of the R35 Nismo, Nissan might just be using the Nismo name more akin to a trim, with Nismo being its own thing at the time the 400R was released but ultimately being straight-up absorbed into Nissan proper. Whereas maybe this didn't happen with AMG, hence AMG being its own brand in GT7. If the BMW M1 came to GT7, would it still be a BMW, or would M become its own brand as well?
3. Speaking of Mercedes, I wonder what sort of models from the company could come to GT7, without necessarily being the more powerful AMG models? I think we've covered some of the most iconic ones, like the SLR McLaren, the 190E Evo II, and the 300SL, but I have confidence there's more that could come to Mercedes-Benz proper in GT7. I could certainly see the rotary-powered C111 concept car coming, as well as the road-going version of the CLK-LM, the latter of which is far more elusive than the more famous CLK-GTR road car. But otherwise, I can only see various AMG models coming, like the G63 AMG, which could be good competition for the Lamborghini Urus. There's also the AMG ONE hypercar, or even older AMG models like the SL65 (R230) AMG Black Series that I first learned about through NFS: Hot Pursuit (2010). I think I heard something about a 500E being in the datamine, too, but I'm rightfully taking that - or any other datamine, for any franchise - with a grain of salt.
4. Now that we do have Nismo with the 400R, do you suppose TRD and Mugen could come alongside it? I admit this is more speculative, but I do personally hope we get those two, as well as the Nismo 270R and Nismo Skyline GT-R LM Road Going Version.
5. Back to that first question, I also wonder what other Mini models could come? I'd be down for a JCW-branded model, at least, or maybe even a racing version that could go into Gr.4. The return of the newer Countryman would also be welcome, by me.
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These two have the same answer: Cars are branded how the licensor wants them to be, PD almost certainly aren't going "well I think we should split out AMG for GT7" without Mercedes dictating that. Generally manufacturers care more about current model branding than historic, so the M1 would likely just be a BMW. All the Dodges that became SRTs in GT6 before reverting to Dodge in Sport/7 are another example.
In the case of Nissan/Nismo specifically, the cutoff has generally that Nismo homologation-style trims like the R32 and R35 Nismos stay as Nissans, whereas heavily Nismo-developed cars like the 270R and 400R, and specially developed Nismo tunes like the R34 Z-tune would be Nismos.
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Yeah it's kinda weird. In GT Sport we had Renault & Renault Sport as 2 seperate brands, and only 1 Mercedes-Benz.
Now in GT7 the two Renault brands are combined together, but AMG is seperate from Mercedes-Benz.
It's also weird searching by manufacturer and having the majority of Mercedes cars under "A" instead of "M".
Now in GT7 the two Renault brands are combined together, but AMG is seperate from Mercedes-Benz.
It's also weird searching by manufacturer and having the majority of Mercedes cars under "A" instead of "M".
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I think in the case of Renault is a perfect example of Manufacterers making this decisions as you have to remember what the Renault Group was doing marketing wise at the time GT Sport came out: Renault Sport was the current sporty brand withe their lineup (which as you saw, was basically anything with RS in the name or a racing model) while the old racing car was under Renault but did also Sport the "Renault Classic" on the license plate. Now Alpine has superceded Renault Sport as that Sporty brand (Hence the at times questionable corporate decisions with the F1 team and them actually buying a significant stake in WEC team Signitech) so as a result, anything not a "Alpine" is just under one "Renault" name.
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Plus, AMG cars aren't allowed in the Mercedes-Benz Scapes... I'm still sore about this.
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