Gran Turismo 7 Revealed for PlayStation 5

[Famine]

This is true?

No.

Of course it might be, but if it turns out to be true it'll be by accident. It won't be because it's actually true right now and these people have some kind of advance information, because it isn't and they don't.

 

[AlanH49]

No.

Of course it might be, but if it turns out to be true it'll be by accident. It won't be because it's actually true right now and these people have some kind of advance information, because it isn't and they don't.

People on the shop floor won’t know. At best they’ll have broad release windows to prepare promotions and pre-orders.

But Sony do put on major showcases for retailers and buyers. Destination PlayStation was first place they ever showed TLOU2 gameplay behind closed doors. Think they also did it with GoW.

https://www.psu.com/news/rumor-sony-hands-destination-playstation-2020-over-to-major-distributor/

 

[Nigrick]

Very interesting. Might be one of the features for GT7. https://www.videogameschronicle.com...ons-unannounced-os-feature-called-activities/

 

[ScottPuss20]

Very interesting. Might be one of the features for GT7. https://www.videogameschronicle.com...ons-unannounced-os-feature-called-activities/

No boot time at all? Now that's something I want. Some days I want to great straight in and play!

 

[05XR8]

Yeah, two minutes to enter a race and still waiting for the loading and menus and hurrying the cursor to click on every option and then wait for the dang blue ball of infinity, just to miss the entry with 14seconds remaining.

 

[DriveSpark]

Don't know if this is "news" or not but the current playstation magazine lists GT7 as "launch window". See the screenshot here, about 3/4 down the page.

https://www.gamesradar.com/amp/io-i...in-this-months-official-playstation-magazine/

Pretty vague term and doesn't mean they'll stick to it but at least it would suggest its less than 6 months from launch at the current time.

 

[Zlork]

This is true?

It's a placehorder date but it's always possible as we have explained.

 

[Dave A]

People on the shop floor won’t know. At best they’ll have broad release windows to prepare promotions and pre-orders.

But Sony do put on major showcases for retailers and buyers. Destination PlayStation was first place they ever showed TLOU2 gameplay behind closed doors. Think they also did it with GoW.

https://www.psu.com/news/rumor-sony-hands-destination-playstation-2020-over-to-major-distributor/

I'm fairly certain @Famine already knows this, but it doesn't mean there is a release date for GT7 yet. I would still hazard a guess at a 2021 release date. Butl like me, they are just guessing that it will be a launch game on the PS5 at the moment, don't put too much stock in it. An announcement will come in time.

 

[SlowGrayAudi]

All you guys bitching about the car count "this game has to have 800 cars at launch or its terrible and Kaz is letting down the community, blah blah blah,"

You have absolutely no idea how much work it takes to model a car with a full interior with the amount of textures they use in todays games. Like someone else said, it can take 6 months to make one car.

Quit being ignorant to the fact that it actually takes time to do this stuff.

They can always add more cars post launch.

So much bitching and whining in here about car count. Its ridiculous.

 

[Neddo]

IMO if its released late this year no more than 400 cars. I would not be surprised if half of them are different liveries or tuned versions like removed Miata N200. If that info about no scanning new cars in Europe because of COVID is true, maybe only new Euro cars will be Porsches and some already scanned ones like Delta rally or 155 TI.

 

[o000o]

All you guys bitching about the car count "this game has to have 800 cars at launch or its terrible and Kaz is letting down the community, blah blah blah,"

You have absolutely no idea how much work it takes to model a car with a full interior with the amount of textures they use in todays games. Like someone else said, it can take 6 months to make one car.

Quit being ignorant to the fact that it actually takes time to do this stuff.

They can always add more cars post launch.

So much bitching and whining in here about car count. Its ridiculous.

Well, PD is guaranteed to try adding as much cars as possible, and previously, PD was also slow in giving other features too, like making the game actually complete in release or completing the game with later updates, where the time PD added some features, other developments would have pumped up a new game... So how many car counts, IMO, can also be used to judge how fast PD works currently for the game's other features, how complete the game will be, like adding more tracks, etc.

The thing is I know that it takes work to fully model a car, but there's a faster way to do it like, PD having enough number of employees (it's a small company, only under than 200 employees, while Turn 10 has more than 400 iirc last I know, and big companies have thousands), with the asset they have it should be easier to accomplish the manpower. I heard that PD has opened a new studio, to focus on GT7. Also, they can outsource instead of doing anything at home, which PD reportedly has done by the time of GTS, but dunno when.

IMO if its released late this year no more than 400 cars. I would not be surprised if half of them are different liveries or tuned versions like removed Miata N200. If that info about no scanning new cars in Europe because of COVID is true, maybe only new Euro cars will be Porsches and some already scanned ones like Delta rally or 155 TI.

How about used car dealerships?

 

[Neddo]

How about used car dealerships?

'new Euro cars' are Euro cars not in GTS, not 'new' in a sense that they are necessarily produced at the moment. no one knows how will UCD work.

 

[o000o]

'new Euro cars' are Euro cars not in GTS, not 'new' in a sense that they are necessarily produced at the moment. no one knows how will UCD work.

UCD consists of huge number of cars listed on rotating basis, it'd need a good number of car to properly work. There are not much of it can be fitted in GTS, the ordinary (not legendary ones like Miura) older cars like only TT '03, M3 '03, Delta HF, Cooper S '05, Tuscan Speed 6 (?), Golf I '83, and the other 90's JDMs like Impreza, Skyline, 300ZX, Supra, MR-2, Beat, NSX.

Also GTS now has 336 cars, if the car count is not over 400 it'd mean they only add like 60 new cars, that's even lower than GT6 did with 126 new.

 

[Neddo]

UCD consists of huge number of cars listed on rotating basis, it'd need a good number of car to properly work. There are not much of it can be fitted in GTS, the ordinary (not legendary ones like Miura) older cars like only TT '03, M3 '03, Delta HF, Cooper S '05, Tuscan Speed 6 (?), Golf I '83, and the other 90's JDMs like Impreza, Skyline, 300ZX, Supra, MR-2, Beat, NSX.

how do you know that UCD will be 'cars not in production but not classics' dealership? Maybe it will be online dealership or just random cars.

Also GTS now has 336 cars, if the car count is not over 400 it'd mean they only add like 60 new cars, that's even lower than GT6 did with 126 new.

Lets just be realistic and not expect a lot. Covid is enough to lower expectations

 

[SlowGrayAudi]

Well, PD is guaranteed to try adding as much cars as possible, and previously, PD was also slow in giving other features too, like making the game actually complete in release or completing the game with later updates, where the time PD added some features, other developments would have pumped up a new game... So how many car counts, IMO, can also be used to judge how fast PD works currently for the game's other features, how complete the game will be, like adding more tracks, etc.

The thing is I know that it takes work to fully model a car, but there's a faster way to do it like, PD having enough number of employees (it's a small company, only under than 200 employees, while Turn 10 has more than 400 iirc last I know, and big companies have thousands), with the asset they have it should be easier to accomplish the manpower. I heard that PD has opened a new studio, to focus on GT7. Also, they can outsource instead of doing anything at home, which PD reportedly has done by the time of GTS, but dunno when.

If PD are anything like Honda and how dumb and stubborn and stuck in their ways (F1 engine) then they want everything done in house. Which is asinine and will only hurt your timeline if you're already struggling. Bringing in fresh minds and lessening the load can only be a positive in that situation.

 

[o000o]

how do you know that UCD will be 'cars not in production but not classics' dealership? Maybe it will be online dealership or just random cars.

Lets just be realistic and not expect a lot. Covid is enough to lower expectations

Previous GTs are all 'cars not in production but not classics' (except GT5 where it's only to fit any Standard cars, even the likes of Veyron 16.4 which has no mileage, cars with a 0 km mileage can't be defined as used cars but rather new cars). As for online dealership GT1 to GT4 wasn't an Online era but even then why can't it be both? Even the incomplete GT5 has both the regular UCD (even if it's more of Standard Cars Dealership) and Online Dealership.

And what's with the "realistic is anything that are negative (even when taken to an extreme)" mindset? Expecting something good, if still grounded to reality is forbidden? Also btw Covid is in 2020, there are times before that for PD to work (GTS was released in 2017 and they say they start to work on next GT, that's 2 years of spare time).

 

[Neddo]

And what's with the "realistic is anything that are negative (even when taken to an extreme)" mindset? Expecting something good, if still grounded to reality is forbidden? Also btw Covid is in 2020, there are times before that for PD to work (GTS was released in 2017 and they say they start to work on next GT, that's 2 years of spare time).

Negative would be only new cars from trailer, or even 0 (all those new Porsches added as update/DLC). Having lowered expectations isn't necessarily negative. 2 years isnt that much time in todays standards of game development TBH.

 

[05XR8]

How many used cars were in GT1? Only JDM models.

How many in GT2? Only JDM models.

I don't think GT3 had any, but I guess the AE86 and anything pre-game debut are "used".

How many in GT4? Plenty(Group C, JDM, euro, etc)

How many in GT5 & 6? Only standard models. Though, like GT3, I'd say anything pre-debut of those games are "used".

As mentioned above, we don't know how GT7 will work. Maybe cars like the leaked Mitsubishi Starion( funnily enough) found to be modelled from a used car lot, will be grouped like the used cars in GT4.

Even if there are only 336 cars, a UCD can still exist. We have plenty in GTS that can be categorised as used. Don't see why there is fretting over it.

If there is livery editor, paint shop and the amount of customisation previewed, the game will be fine.

 

[Dave A]

How many used cars were in GT1? Only JDM models.

How many in GT2? Only JDM models.

I don't think GT3 had any, but I guess the AE86 and anything pre-game debut are "used".

How many in GT4? Plenty(Group C, JDM, euro, etc)

How many in GT5 & 6? Only standard models. Though, like GT3, I'd say anything pre-debut of those games are "used".

As mentioned above, we don't know how GT7 will work. Maybe cars like the leaked Mitsubishi Starion( funnily enough) found to be modelled from a used car lot, will be grouped like the used cars in GT4.

Even if there are only 336 cars, a UCD can still exist. We have plenty in GTS that can be categorised as used. Don't see why there is fretting over it.

If there is livery editor, paint shop and the amount of customisation previewed, the game will be fine.

Valid points (although I don't think GT6 had any used cars IIRC).

For the record, the original Gran Turismo had 175 cars (excluding race mods) and that had a decent selection of used cars although they were only for the Japanese marques.

The problem with GT Sports base car list is it's heavily inflated with Gr.1, Gr.3 and Gr.4 models, however the additional cars released later were mostly road cars. I honestly think if we get 100 extra cars or more the car list will for GT7 will be fine.

Cars already in GT Sport that could theoretically appear in a used dealership will number well over 50 if you go through the list (excluding cars likey to be considered "special" like the McLaren F1 and Ferrari F40.

 

[05XR8]

I wouldn't see a problem with Ferrari allowing a classic like the F40 being placed in the UCD. Ferrari sell used cars as well. Plus, I think(correct me if I'm wrong), GT5 was the one that had the 10mil used cars.

The Gr.1-4/B race cars aren't a problem. Even a Gr.X P1 GT-R. The old Alfa '65, all Shelbys, etc., would definitely fit in a GTS UCD.

A simple Used car list like in GT1, would have been easy to program for GTS.

 

[Castrol96]

This has become the Used Car Dealership thread

 

[Samus]

Covid shouldn't have as much of an impact on car modeling as it would other aspects of the game. Modelling a car is something easily done remotely, nobody needs to be in the office. As long as they're sent the reference data it shouldn't slow them down.

 

[karelpipa]

Hopefully Samus

 

[05XR8]

This has become the Used Car Dealership thread

Good. It was becoming a whining crying thread for a minute.

 

[Doomotron]

I've seen the blue and red box art - is that the official box art or just a placeholder/concept made by the community?

 

[sparkytooth]

I don't know why people are thinking about this so much, but anything can be a used car as long as its you know, used.

GT7 could easily have anything in the used car dealership. Not everything used has to be a clapped out old supra from the 80s, you can buy relatively new supercars used as well like Huracans and Mclarens.

 

[karelpipa]

Good. It was becoming a whining crying thread for a minute.

For that, just wait for when GT7 will be released

 

[05XR8]

For that, just wait for when GT7 will be released

I'll give it a few more posts after this one.

 

[happycorey]

I've seen the blue and red box art - is that the official box art or just a placeholder/concept made by the community?

Considering it's just Kaz's cover on Twitter I wouldn't be too interested in it's legitimacy. Nothing new so it's just a quick photoshop to generate rumors.

 

[ScottPuss20]

I don't know why people are thinking about this so much, but anything can be a used car as long as its you know, used.

GT7 could easily have anything in the used car dealership. Not everything used has to be a clapped out old supra from the 80s, you can buy relatively new supercars used as well like Huracans and Mclarens.

You could get these cars for discounted prices and save a bit of money. However the Huracan is still being built, and I think the used car dealer should be for discontinued models. Think Gallardo, Murcielago, 911 GT3 (996), Carrera GT, Diablo, SLS, 458, MP4-12C, etc