Gran Turismo 7 Update Arrives Next Week, With Three New Cars

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I saw the update early this morning on X it reposted by someone do I thought it might be fake so I came here and saw that it wasn't. The cars are okay this month just curious to see what else is included specifically the engine swaps
 
Lomic
Do we have stats on that? I thought the majority (not on GT Planet) of players were using chase cam.
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Anecdotally most of the videos/streams on YT are in the 2 views I suggested.

The earlier games probably were more chase cam users but it's not been a particularly good view since GT5/6 when they changed the way the camera pivots.

By far I'd imagine cockpit cam (excluding VR) to be the least used view today.
 
newmedia_dev
Anecdotally most of the videos/streams on YT are in the 2 views I suggested.

The earlier games probably were more chase cam users but it's not been a particularly good view since GT5/6 when they changed the way the camera pivots.

By far I'd imagine cockpit cam (excluding VR) to be the least used view today.
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Ok but streams and YT are mostly not done by casuals users (at least the majority of those I watch) and I doubt streamers/YTers represent a big part of the players either.

I'd be curious to get real stats.
 
RaY29rus
Honestly, I really like how GT7 car roster keeps being an absolute random car encyclopedia. Hopefully those 3D-models are really good and can be used for many more years, eventually resulting in an over 2000 cars roster with all kind of cars, from first ever Benz automobile to latest modern hypercars. Cars from all over the world and all over the years. I think this is what Kaz is going for and I'm all in for it.
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Not random. All the cars they add have important stories to tell.
 
Lomic
Ok but streams and YT are mostly not done by casuals users (at least the majority of those I watch) and I doubt streamers/YTers represent a big part of the players either.

I'd be curious to get real stats.
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It's a black box stat at PD but just looking at randomly uploaded clips (likely to share with friends etc) the most common excluding replay telecam) is bumper and bonnet cam.

This would make a lot of sense as people will emulate the people they are watching who are popular/fast/good etc

With social media these days id imagine that influence has very much fed down.
 
newmedia_dev
Anecdotally most of the videos/streams on YT are in the 2 views I suggested.

The earlier games probably were more chase cam users but it's not been a particularly good view since GT5/6 when they changed the way the camera pivots.

By far I'd imagine cockpit cam (excluding VR) to be the least used view today.
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They made the camera too stiff in chase view. They should really have an option to 'loosen' it up. Interestingly enough they had made it possible to achieve a GT3-like loose chase cam in Gt sport (set all chase camera settings to max then, to lowest), but instead of implementing that into GT7, they downright remove it entirely. I would definitely be a chase cam user if I could get the GTS loose feeling, but in 7 I can't even use chase cam because it is too stiff and the settings they have given us barely do anything.

Not at all related to the quoted comment comment above, but my thoughts on the three cars:
Unimog - Interesting, but not very practical. Hoping it can be used in the pickup truck races since it has a pickup-style body.
504 - Meh. Kind of another economy car that I personally will rarely use. unless it comes with decent tuning parts and engine swap.
Z4 - It's been 84 years...


Lastly, since this update is close to the 3-year anniv. mark I still live on hopium for one last month - Engine selling! (If it doesn't happen here, I give up and I'm deleting all those engines as I am getting sick of the clutter.)
 
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On the GT3 and hypercar point: I don't know why PD haven't added successful, winning cars like the 499P or the 963 or the 296 GT3 yet. Maybe they are working on them, maybe they aren't, I have zero way of knowing.

But beyond those, I think @Nielsen is right when he says PD currently like adding cars that have stories to tell. And cars like the BMW M Hybrid or the Lambo SC63 or the new Mustang GT3 have no story yet, they've done nothing interesting except show up and be current. So I genuinely think PD have no interest in them currently until they win something or do something interesting.
 
DapperDan07
I suspect that PD are holding them back, along with the modern gt500 cars, as a selling point for gt8
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That really doesn't historically hold true, were they holding back more modern cars from 6 or sport for GT7? The one the did is now a 5 year old merc 🤷‍♂️

I like your optimism though.
 
Nakano219
On the GT3 and hypercar point: I don't know why PD haven't added successful, winning cars like the 499P or the 963 or the 296 GT3 yet. Maybe they are working on them, maybe they aren't, I have zero way of knowing.

But beyond those, I think @Nielsen is right when he says PD currently like adding cars that have stories to tell. And cars like the BMW M Hybrid or the Lambo SC63 or the new Mustang GT3 have no story yet, they've done nothing interesting except show up and be current. So I genuinely think PD have no interest in them currently until they win something or do something interesting.
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The Mustang GT3 just won (its class) at Daytona, that’s quite interesting.

It’s pretty clear PD don’t care about modern racing. They should just scrap the GT3/GT4 dailies and the Manufacturers Cup, make the online part of the game road-focused like the single-player part and like the vast majority of the updates. Only events like the upcoming tuned supercars at Trial Mountain or the various track toy one-makes.
 
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Hey all I’m still a bit new to GT7 and GTPlanet. I’m curious has there ever been a case when everyone was convinced about the identities of the silhouettes but it turned out one of them was a surprise when the trailer was released?
 
TurboBoy64
Hey all I’m still a bit new to GT7 and GTPlanet. I’m curious has there ever been a case when everyone was convinced about the identities of the silhouettes but it turned out one of them was a surprise when the trailer was released?
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Not that I remember. Bunch of car rain men in here. I never recognize a single one and they have them all down within seconds 😂😂
 
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TurboBoy64
Hey all I’m still a bit new to GT7 and GTPlanet. I’m curious has there ever been a case when everyone was convinced about the identities of the silhouettes but it turned out one of them was a surprise when the trailer was released?
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I don't think it ever happened, there are some Sherlock Holmes here (and insiders) :D :D
 
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TurboBoy64
Hey all I’m still a bit new to GT7 and GTPlanet. I’m curious has there ever been a case when everyone was convinced about the identities of the silhouettes but it turned out one of them was a surprise when the trailer was released?
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Suzuki VGT is my best guess, nobody at the time had the inside info to know that was coming and noone knew what it was (as it wasn't real!)
 
DapperDan07
I suspect that PD are holding them back, along with the modern gt500 cars, as a selling point for gt8
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In all fairness, I had anticipated the exact same thing would hold true for the GT-One and Castrol NSX, until both appeared in otherwise completely humdrum updates last year.

Who knows, maybe we'll see the R390 show up this year. And then in black as a Special Pick. :sly:
 
I don't know if PD are holding back on any cars, but twenty-five years to finally get a base E30 is a long time. I mean, the first BMW models we saw in a GT game were pretty up to date and plentiful.

PD added a classic 2002 Turbo in GT4 and a host of BMW race cars. These continued through to GT6.

GT Sport saw the first E30 added. Just over twenty years after the first Gran Turismo.

So, one of the most iconic cars in the world for one of the most popular games of any kind in the world, by one of the most powerful entertainment developers in the world, held back a base model E30 for twenty-five years?
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This truck is certainly the hardest to judge of the recent silhouette teases. It hurts my brain to guess as it seems one detail never matches the other.

I like the ideas for this being an Unimog as it was used in rally raid events, and the Honda T360 with its historical significance to Honda. I'd love it if it was a kei truck too. But the Indonesian in me wishes this is a Daihatsu Gran Max!

It's a front-midship RWD commercial car that was successfully exported to Japan, only recently discontinued after lasting many years over there. It was also rebadged as the Mazda Boon and the Toyota TownAce, a name class that sits below the Hiace. In Japan, an exclusive 4WD option is also offered. It's significant for weighing slightly more than 1000kg as a non-kei truck. 1 ton is the benchmark weight sports cars weighing below it can be classified as lightweight.

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05XR8
I don't know if PD are holding back on any cars, but twenty-five years to finally get a base E30 is a long time. I mean, the first BMW models we saw in a GT game were pretty up to date and plentiful.

PD added a classic 2002 Turbo in GT4 and a host of BMW race cars. These continued through to GT6.

GT Sport saw the first E30 added. Just over twenty years after the first Gran Turismo.

So, one of the most iconic cars in the world for one of the most popular games of any kind in the world, by one of the most powerful entertainment developers in the world, held back a base model E30 for twenty-five years?
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I think it's very plausible. Can't really compare the series as a whole for something like this, but more from GT5 onward, with the introduction of Premium cars because that's the closest in terms of fidelity to what we have now. And also when they could even add cars via online updates.

So the genuine comparison and question is: Were there cars at GT Sport's launch that were not premium cars in GT6? A lot, if I recall. All the GT4/GT3 cars at least. And they had added some cars in updates for GT6 I think? How about GT5 to GT6?

And I think there were a fair amount of cars that were added with GT7 that were not part of the GT Sport series of updates?

It makes sense to me for them to hold cars back because they can't release GT8 and it have the exact same cars that GT7 already has. Even if they added new tracks and modes etc, people would still be pissed. So I could see them wanting to have maybe.. 100 new cars for GT8? I think the number was something like that between GT6 and Sport and maybe even Sport and GT7. I'm sure someone here could run the numbers and figure out how many cars they could theoretically have made up to this point if we assume every update could've had 5-7 cars and they held whatever back that was less than that. It's also worth noting that the updates have had less cars over time?

I also think it's very plausible for them to be holding back all the new GT4/GT3/Prototype tier cars until GT8 due to E-Sports. They seem to want to maintain a balance between all of these cars, as futile as that seems to be, and it's probably easier to work on them internally as a whole (like having Sophy running them constantly on every track to help with BoP data.) and not have to constantly try and balance them in GT7-- a public, active platform- with each car added.

Then there's the whole unknown complexity of licensing which I've pondered in written form on here before. They might have to pay additional licensing to be able to sell GT7 and GT8 with a car, where as they could just save it for GT8 and pay a lesser fee. This seems more applicable to all the GT4/GT3/Prototype cars IMO. But then again, I don't know how any of the licensing works. Its all stupidly secret and probably way more expensive than it should be. IMO, companies should be letting PD add their cars in the game for free as it's basically advertising for their cars and brand. Both companies gain from it in certain ways, but PD has to spend a bunch of money to pay people to implement them.
 
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It'll be interesting to see if the Peugeot gets a day one engine swap option and what it might be. I'd guess the 1.6 PSA in the 208 and MINI, the Integra engine or the K20.
 
Seikenfreak
I think it's very plausible. Can't really compare the series as a whole for something like this, but more from GT5 onward, with the introduction of Premium cars because that's the closest in terms of fidelity to what we have now. And also when they could even add cars via online updates.

So the genuine comparison and question is: Were there cars at GT Sport's launch that were not premium cars in GT6? A lot, if I recall. All the GT4/GT3 cars at least. And they had added some cars in updates for GT6 I think? How about GT5 to GT6?

And I think there were a fair amount of cars that were added with GT7 that were not part of the GT Sport series of updates?

It makes sense to me for them to hold cars back because they can't release GT8 and it have the exact same cars that GT7 already has. Even if they added new tracks and modes etc, people would still be pissed. So I could see them wanting to have maybe.. 100 new cars for GT8? I think the number was something like that between GT6 and Sport and maybe even Sport and GT7. I'm sure someone here could run the numbers and figure out how many cars they could theoretically have made up to this point if we assume every update could've had 5-7 cars and they held whatever back that was less than that. It's also worth noting that the updates have had less cars over time?

I also think it's very plausible for them to be holding back all the new GT4/GT3/Prototype tier cars until GT8 due to E-Sports. They seem to want to maintain a balance between all of these cars, as futile as that seems to be, and it's probably easier to work on them internally as a whole (like having Sophy running them constantly on every track to help with BoP data.)

Then there's the whole unknown complexity of licensing which I've pondered in written form on here before. They might have to pay additional licensing to be able to sell GT7 and GT8 with a car, where as they could just save it for GT8 and pay a lesser fee. This seems more applicable to all the GT4/GT3/Prototype cars IMO. But then again, I don't know how any of the licensing works. Its all stupidly secret and probably way more expensive than it should be. IMO, companies should be letting PD add their cars in the game for free as it's basically advertising for their cars and brand. Both companies gain from it in certain ways.
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Maybe it may not only mean cars, but PD said the next World Series will be bigger than ever. That’s happening now, not in the next game. Holding back cars when they could be showcased on a grand stage seems like it’s best to not hold back cars.
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My point is that Kaz said they release cars when they’re done. Doesn’t mean they are holding back cars, but could be due to scheduling with whatever: the model out sourcing, sorting cars by scouting or maybe owners of cars contacting PD and sorting who is for real and also no doubt about any licensing issues.

As for the race cars, PD added older ones. Why? Why add a thirty year old Alfa Romeo as a Gr.4 choice? Why add thirty year old McLarens and Mercedes to Gr.2 and a fifteen year old Aston Martin DBR9 to Gr.3? It’s 2025 and maybe in 2027 we get a next GT8, holding back race cars already a few years old(some even in Evo stages) to then be, let’s say, five years out of date when a new game comes out, doesn’t make sense.

I understand arguments and discussions about feeling PD are holding back cars. Doesn’t bother me if they are or not and yes, many of us would like answers. Guess I’ve long been at the stage where I know didn’t design the game and I’m choosing to spend my money throughout all these years to make use of what is available. I’ll continue to hope and speculate for content I want and what I think will be right around the corner. Even if I never get to see it in the franchise, ;)
 
05XR8
Maybe it may not only mean cars, but PD said the next World Series will be bigger than ever. That’s happening now, not in the next game. Holding back cars when they could be showcased on a grand stage seems like it’s best to not hold back cars.
www.gtplanet.net

Gran Turismo World Series Will Return in 2025 "Bigger Than Ever"

The curtain may have only just fallen on the 2024 Gran Turismo World Series, but already we're learning that the series will run again in 2025 and is promised to be the biggest ever event. 2024's championship broke new ground repeatedly, with three of the four live events coming from brand-new ve
www.gtplanet.net www.gtplanet.net

My point is that Kaz said they release cars when they’re done. Doesn’t mean they are holding back cars, but could be due to scheduling with whatever: the model out sourcing, sorting cars by scouting or maybe owners of cars contacting PD and sorting who is for real and also no doubt about any licensing issues.

As for the race cars, PD added older ones. Why? Why add a thirty year old Alfa Romeo as a Gr.4 choice? Why add thirty year old McLarens and Mercedes to Gr.2 and a fifteen year old Aston Martin DBR9 to Gr.3? It’s 2025 and maybe in 2027 we get a next GT8, holding back race cars already a few years old(some even in Evo stages) to then be, let’s say, five years out of date when a new game comes out, doesn’t make sense.

I understand arguments and discussions about feeling PD are holding back cars. Doesn’t bother me if they are or not and yes, many of us would like answers. Guess I’ve long been at the stage where I know didn’t design the game and I’m choosing to spend my money throughout all these years to make use of what is available. I’ll continue to hope and speculate for content I want and what I think will be right around the corner. Even if I never get to see it in the franchise, ;)
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Thanks for the response. Just to clarify, for GT4/GT3/Prototype cars, I meant the modern ones. The ones people are constantly asking for. They want the most up to date stuff.

With any of the older famous cars, I think their in game classification is just a consequence of them having to be put somewhere, even if it doesn't make sense. And there isn't a real reason to hold any of those back, other than to accumulate and justify a future $70+ product on shelves.

And in relation to the article, I'd have to imagine they're probably just referring to venues and availability across the globe. I don't expect them to add NASCAR like events or Rally stages etc. Who knows.
 
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