You've said this a few times before and passed it of as a fact whilst not really making sense, and the fun was all based on the fact your skills were not good enough to handle the Porsche 911 GT3. So I've no idea why you keep posting this when every time your view has been challenged you have not been able to back it it up with anything of substance.If in real life is fun the in a good simulator (and in a good game) it should be fun too.
Some simulators try to be "real" but they are not fun, sometimes in the physics area, sometimes in the career mode, I agree with you.
You mean it's like real life where you can't pick a Honda Civic, spend $500,000 upgrading it and go racing against Veyrons after throwing on F1 qualifying tires? You have to actually pick a car that's homologated for that series? Blasphemy!
There's been less "VS" topics in this thread, and actually just resembles what they think a match up of features from other games would work well with GTS. That is not the same thing as comparing the two features of one game and dissecting them, to be honest. .This turned into another vs thread
The fixed centre point rotation and the hand of god assist and the messed up brake bias have nothing to do with FFB.I think the problem is mostly in ffb. That bad ffb makes the physics feel bad, as ffb is a major thing in mimicking physics.
If this is the case, then why GTS so much worse than DriveClub? To the point where you won't buy it? You seem to claim that you like these sorts of games without groundbreaking physics, but for some reason GTS is an exception? Why is that? I'm confused.Again, subjective. You have no incentive to keep playing, many others do.
Driveclub marketed itself as a pure arcade racer, nothing more.
I don't consider the physics in it broken at all, just far, far looser that they should be. An exaggeration of reality, the basic rules are still being followed, as can be seen if you run it in hardcore mode, which removes all of the artificial assistance.
And yes I love plenty of titles that fall into that class, DC, Without, the entire Burnout series, older Dirt and CM titles for a short list of examples.
He's right, it is turning into a VS thread now.There's been less "VS" topics in this thread, and actually just resembles what they think a match up of features from other games would work well with GTS. That is not the same thing as comparing the two features of one game and dissecting them, to be honest. .
It's on!He's right, it is turning into a VS thread now.
Please don't start a flame war with me
If anything, the way that he's been describing the physics have been far less than groundbreaking.If this is the case, then why GTS so much worse than DriveClub? To the point where you won't buy it? You seem to claim that you like these sorts of games without groundbreaking physics, but for some reason GTS is an exception? Why is that? I'm confused.
He's really not, but ok. Saying "This game does this a certain way, I think PD should implement it" in a drawn out discussion is not making it a vs thread. Making a comparison is not the same thing as making it a battle.He's right, it is turning into a VS thread now.
I'm not sure why your confused as I've already explained this.If this is the case, then why GTS so much worse than DriveClub? To the point where you won't buy it? You seem to claim that you like these sorts of games without groundbreaking physics, but for some reason GTS is an exception? Why is that? I'm confused.
GTS currently doesn't seem to know what it wants to be, as a result it's neither a good sim or a good arcade racer, but stuck someplace in between. It's a balance PD seem to have been headed in for a while, and it's not one I personally find that good. You may love it, but that unfortunately doesn't help me.
The end result is that I just don't find GTS in its current beta build either fun or engaging to drive, however I do find titles as wide as DC and AC fun and engaging to drive for different reasons. It's not a binary choice that because I like x then I have to like y! DC is a great arcade racer, WRC5 was a rubbish arcade racer as another example.
KazWe have to experiment and learn what the tendencies of people are in the game by actually watching them play it. But, at the same time, I knew from the beginning that it was going to be a stressful experience for the players. Basically, what the beta is doing is cutting out the Sports mode, so it was surprising to me that players are actually enjoying the experience in playing, because it wasn’t really meant to be “fun”!
As I recall I said they were not watching it in real time (but given that this is a translation, that needs to be taken in that context), and if I am on his target list that would be great, but he's missing the mark by quite a way at the moment.Seems like you're on Kaz intended target group of players, lol
Ps. Remember when I said their to watching your playing, which you denied..
Thanks to my partying days which lasted around 7000 days and 7001 nights, I only really remember GT1 and GT4. Almost a complete blank regarding GT2 and GT3, I do remember the 2 discs with GT2? and one of the discs was a scratch and sniff. Loved that idea.There is a solution
Remember that extra hidden event where you can use any car then the game will automatically picks cars based on the performance of your car with random 5 circuits by turns one by one ?
It was in GT2 & i think it is unlocked after you clear super license
If they bring that back with addition that the higher the car performence you pick the more the race will be difficult with higher cash - it'll be excellent ^^
Plus the more sportsmanship points you gain from the race - the better the cash you get with also a random cars card or coupon prize like they did in GT5 ^^
That way it should help you to be entertained on getting cash X)
Sadly that picture of the Gulf does not confirm that livery editor will be in game on launch. It is quite possibly the most requested feature for the last decade, yet they have not made a feature of it in promotional content nor shown fans how it works.Lighting is a way ahead in gts and cars blend better to other graphics, but all those reflections and dynamic water in forza looks great.
Too bad snow has always been rubbish in GT. Its more like ice with no resistance/weight/cave-in. I know as i have some 20 years of experience driving in finland..
I think the problem is mostly in ffb. That bad ffb makes the physics feel bad, as ffb is a major thing in mimicking physics.
https://www.gtplanet.net/wp-content...een_LiveryEditorDecal_PS4_E32017-1200x675.png
(cant find how to add a picture in the new mobile site)
Marketed yes, but it always has been called that yet it never has been that much of a hc simulator. Just a familiar slogan. dont get stuck on that.
I'm not sure why your confused as I've already explained this.
GTS currently doesn't seem to know what it wants to be, as a result it's neither a good sim or a good arcade racer, but stuck someplace in between. It's a balance PD seem to have been headed in for a while, and it's not one I personally find that good. You may love it, but that unfortunately doesn't help me.
The end result is that I just don't find GTS in its current beta build either fun or engaging to drive, however I do find titles as wide as DC and AC fun and engaging to drive for different reasons. It's not a binary choice that because I like x then I have to like y! DC is a great arcade racer, WRC5 was a rubbish arcade racer as another example.
DC has no such issue at all, it makes no pretence that it's an arcade racer.
Oh and I've not said I'm not going to buy it, so please do put words in my mouth. I've said I will buy it for comparison tests and videos, would you like to see a screenshot of the pre-order?
So you know something you didn't buy is crap?Look, drive club and the crew are two of the worst racing games I have wasted my money on in the last two years. They got a good marketing team that tricked me into buying their products, but they really are crap, waste of time and money. I'm glad I did not buy project cars, that game is crap too. All three of these games have terrible physics and force feedback, I will not be tricked into buying any of their iterations and I would not recommend anyone else buying them. My recommendation is to stick with real quality prices like gt, forza, Assetto corsa, iracing.
Im sorry to say this but after forza 7 trailer gt sport looks a bit boring.
You've said this a few times before and passed it of as a fact whilst not really making sense, and the fun was all based on the fact your skills were not good enough to handle the Porsche 911 GT3. So I've no idea why you keep posting this when every time your view has been challenged you have not been able to back it it up with anything of substance.
You don't get to determine what GT Planet is or is not about.You only have to ignore me if you don't agree, like I do. Gtplanet is not about searching the Truth of the universe but enjoying and talking about sim racing games and sharing differents points of view
You don't get to determine what GT Planet is or is not about.
Nor do you get to determine that fact and opinion can be interchanged just because you want. Two members who repeatedly thought they could are no longer members, take that on board.
The attitude will not serve you well.I'm not determining NOTHING ! I didn't say the word "determine" nor "fact".
In my opinion, opinions should be welcome in gtplanet, differents opinions rewards the forums, if only people take it as it is, opinions and not confrontations.
When I agree with you or with another I say it, we can not all agree in everything...
Says this is not the thread to discuss FM7, but continues to discuss Fm7.That's good that you have an opinion like that, and believe me it isn't a problem either, but we also have dedicated threads for Forza 7 where we can discuss that game. I do believe that Forza 7 looks good, but there's two things wrong with that game; its color palette, and (this one throws me off really bad) the outside the headlight/taillight lens light source. SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HELL? Haha. GT Sports graphics are excellent. Superb, in my opinion.
Almost certainly a placeholder.Has anyone else spotted that Amazon shows a release date of December 29th? Could that be for real?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FT72NOO/?tag=gtplanet-20
Almost certainly a placeholder.
Release after Christmas and miss all those sales? Not even PD.
How many times do we have to remind people all those dates that keep showing up here and there are just placeholders?Has anyone else spotted that Amazon shows a release date of December 29th? Could that be for real?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FT72NOO/?tag=gtplanet-20
How many times do we have to remind people all those dates that keep showing up here and there are just placeholders?
Don't you think PD would have given us a date and you'd read it here if it was official?