Gran Turismo Sport New Cars Leaked: Porsche 930 Turbo, Civic Type R, and More

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TonyJZX
I have no interest in anything open wheeler pre 1967... and the only reason I'm ok with 1967 is because Gran Prix Legends made me aware of that year.

Also to be honest I dont have much reason to need anything earlier than 1961.

I may extend that to 1957 which is the first year the Corvette came out.... Corvettes have a long standing tradition in this series.
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The Corvette came out in 1953.
 
ITT: everything before 1960 is completely uninteresting, honestly it might as well be like cars never existed before the Corvette...

Me: 28.5l, 4 cylinders

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Gimme the power!
 
Clean Racer
Wow, you're missing out on appreciating a lot of cars with that approach. To each their own I guess.
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MaxAttack
I see a bit of cognitive dissonance between your two statements - "might as well not exist" and "earned their place in the game" - which is it?

The real crime is that the old cars come with traction control - active by default, and can use ABS and ASM.


Also, if PD had not made faithful recreations of these cars alongside the modern machinery in the game, what reference would you have for how bad they are?

Here's how I see it - the modern cars let you experience current tech like good brakes, slick tyres, aerodynamics and bags of mechanical grip. They make for good racing because they can handle on the limit, slipstream, trail brake etc very reliably.
The old cars - without TCS, of course, deliver good racing in a different way, because the cars easily break traction and require finesse to get the best out of. Driver mistakes are accentuated by the less forgiving cars, so skill is rewarded.

It seems to me you don't really dislike older cars at all - you appear not to like classic, heavy, front engined v8 muscle cars, and there are plenty of modern examples of such things.

Another problem i'd like to point out - a lot of people insist on tuning the charm out of the old cars, with RSS tyres and sequential transmissions... At that point you may as well drive a race car.
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Honestly, that's a good point that I never thought of before. And well, I'm a not a very good driver, so maybe the skill factor comes in play here, lol.

Well, in hindsight "might as well not exist" was not the right phrase to use, comes off as pretty condesending. What I meant was "they dont really do anything for me".

It's just a matter of preference I guess. Cars like the 250 GTO and similars I couldnt care less about, especially in this game, it's just a collectors piece and nothing else.
 
Flashfire926
Honestly, that's a good point that I never thought of before. And well, I'm a not a very good driver, so maybe the skill factor comes in play here, lol.

Well, in hindsight "might as well not exist" was not the right phrase to use, comes off as pretty condesending. What I meant was "they dont really do anything for me".

It's just a matter of preference I guess. Cars like the 250 GTO and similars I couldnt care less about, especially in this game, it's just a collectors piece and nothing else.
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To each their own, man

Think you just used too strong of language, really. There are a billion Porsche 911s in the game that loads of people love, but I never drive them, because I don't enjoy the way they drive. They're quick as hell, great engineering and dearly beloved by many but I have never enjoyed driving them, even when in some classes they are markedly faster than anything else (N400, I think?)

So I'd say I feel the same way about 911s as you do about classic muscle. :)
 
Volksauto
I hope prewar cars might eventually come to the game. The Mercedes-Benz S Tourer 2017 Pebble Beach GT winner is from 1929 so it'll come to Gran Turismo eventually but I feel not in GT Sport. The 1937 Auto Union Streamliner from GT6 is a possible candidate considering Audi doesn't have any pre 1980 classics in the game and it was a great Route X monster in GT6 and it'll be great for the Nostalgia 1979 races. As for other prewar cars, the 1915 Ford Model T and the 1886 Benz & Daimler I feel have no chance of ever returning to Gran Turismo so hopefully there will be new additions such as the Bugatti Type 35 or the BMW 328.
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When GT or Forza gets a Duesenburg, I'll be happy as hell
 
MaxAttack
ITT: everything before 1960 is completely uninteresting, honestly it might as well be like cars never existed before the Corvette...

Me: 28.5l, 4 cylinders

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Gimme the power!
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Honestly, those vintage race cars and open wheelers are probably way more interesting to drive than some modern racing cars. They are not predictable in any way. The cars handled very dangerously and require above average skill when driving them which makes them completely unboring to drive. The drivers of that era maybe the most skillful drivers of all motorsports.
The crazy displacement of engines of that era also allowed these cars to have impressive amounts of horsepower.
 
Volksauto
Ok, I'll make it on topic again.
If any new real world track is coming, I feel it's probably going to be Laguna Seca. If I recall correctly, it was the first or one of the first real world circuits in Gran Turismo. It's been in GT2-GT6 so it's not surprising if it comes to GT Sport soon.
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Monza came ages ago, along with Red Bull Ring, which were much later in the series, so it seems a bit far-fetched.
 
If we don’t see a real world track soon, then it’s not looking promising that there will be another released with this iteration of GT.
Silverstone was released with GT6 was highly showcased track. With GT Sports partnership with FIA, it would have seemed this track would have been released early with GT Sport.
 
I'm baffled about some people here who are fellow car guys don't have any appreciation or care/intrest for older cars whether vintage , classic or prewar cars which are very interesting for their own right because of their construction and technology and the advancement of racing theories and technology , also they make us appreciate of what we have now which we have for granted nowadays , having them make us in a way exeprience them and exprience how did they drive at their time , it's how Gran turismo is all about appreciation and tribute for the older vehicles , so including them is a great bonus
 
regnar
If we don’t see a real world track soon, then it’s not looking promising that there will be another released with this iteration of GT.
Silverstone was released with GT6 was highly showcased track. With GT Sports partnership with FIA, it would have seemed this track would have been released early with GT Sport.
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I mean, we just got Goodwood.. It might not be a typical or highly requested track, but it’s not like PD is neglecting real world tracks.
 
About that pre- Trans Am comment. Mine is more about old and new comparisons.

I was able to have a Custom Race in my E30 versus the AI M4. The M4 defaults as the Pole car in N300/N400, no matter what N300/N400 class car I choose.

I tuned the M3 to 240hp/1188kg/SS tyres, to mimic an M3 in Best Motoring(that car was versus an S2000). It had a carbon bonnet, 17" aftermarket alloys, suspension and exhaust.

Standing start with me in P2. Yes, the M4 won, but it was cool to experience such a comparison. When the EK9 arrives, hopefully I can do the same somehow, being the FK2 is N300(I'll have to see what's the P1 car in N100/N200).

Shame, the new cars are so good, they're closer to a game than reality. :lol:
 
Well, at least it’s good to have confirmation of a new track.

Unless it is something all new, we’re really narrowing down the potential options. Be it a classic real world track, or an OG original circuit.
 
No circuit this update i think, the updates are really inconsistent in the last months.
 
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Celicaas
I'm baffled about some people here who are fellow car guys don't have any appreciation or care/intrest for older cars whether vintage , classic or prewar cars which are very interesting for their own right because of their construction and technology and the advancement of racing theories and technology , also they make us appreciate of what we have now which we have for granted nowadays , having them make us in a way exeprience them and exprience how did they drive at their time , it's how Gran turismo is all about appreciation and tribute for the older vehicles , so including them is a great bonus
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Forza has had that stuff for a while and the reality is many of us cant relate to say a 1935 Alfa with a 3 spd manual and wacky handling on bias ply whatever tyres.

I get you in that automotive history is a legit thing however and I get that the 1886 Benz Motorwagen and Ford Model T is also a thing in this franchise however in the end, this is about racing in a diverse field and I personally dont think that older cars (say pre 1953 to be consistent) is all that conducive to good play let alone good online play.

If however Gran Turismo wants to do a step by step in the way of Vettel Jeff Gordon and the Moon Buggy stuff where they do slides and some kind fo defined series on that kind of history then I'm ok.

But in a free form title like GT Sport its a tough thing to include.
 
Volksauto
Honestly, those vintage race cars and open wheelers are probably way more interesting to drive than some modern racing cars. They are not predictable in any way. The cars handled very dangerously and require above average skill when driving them which makes them completely unboring to drive. The drivers of that era maybe the most skillful drivers of all motorsports.
The crazy displacement of engines of that era also allowed these cars to have impressive amounts of horsepower.
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Driving the Maserati 250F in Assetto Corsa gave me a deeper appreciation for the skill involved in driving open-wheelers from the 1950s and earlier. Not that they necessarily require more skill than high downforce cars, but a different skill set entirely. Drivers in those days used a cornering technique called 4-wheel-drift, where you enter the corner with a bit of drift angle (not enough to cause tire smoke), making efficient use of the braking zone and enabling them to start throttling earlier. Some drivers like Nuvolari used to go through the entire bend without lifting their right foot at all, which goes to show how committed the corner entries could be. Lack of wings and the use of cross-ply tires made this technique more logical.

There is a substantial learning curve involved when driving cars from that period because of this (and lack of driving aids like anti-lock brakes and traction control), and it can seem quite alien, especially if you have been told all your life that sliding is bad. You can get mystified when pondering about how to improve your times with them. :lol: There's just so much going on under the surface when you watch clips of Fangio and others driving.

One thing GT games need to really simulate these cars however, is the ability to apply positive camber angle to the front wheels.
 
regnar
If we don’t see a real world track soon, then it’s not looking promising that there will be another released with this iteration of GT.
Silverstone was released with GT6 was highly showcased track. With GT Sports partnership with FIA, it would have seemed this track would have been released early with GT Sport.
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How are you to determine that? We don't know when PD will stop adding DLC to the game.
 
I remember when Gran Turismo: Sport, was supposed to be focused on racing, rather than just being named after a badly implemented mode within the game.


Guess I’ll just have to look forward to Gran Turismo: Lobby
 
I remember when Gran Turismo: Sport, was supposed to be focused on racing, rather than just being named after a badly implemented mode within the game.


Guess I’ll just have to look forward to Gran Turismo: Lobby
 
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