Gran Turismo Unpopular Opinions Thread

[Cerebral303]

At least it means Sport mode narrows down to people who are actually willing to race cleanly

Would there be enough people left for matchmaking?

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Would there be enough people left for matchmaking?

Valid point. And one that I can confidently say no to. See the problem? It's something like a catch-22. If we try to make matchmaking cater to clean and fair racers (either with our current primarily SR-based matchmaking, or with cleanLX's idea), there would be a substantial lack of these players (read: the countless complains of lower ranked drivers being matched against aliens and vice versa). If only there's a magical solution to this...

But yeah disregarding the player count problem, cleanLX' proposal is pretty good

 

[ste.sully]

At least it means Sport mode narrows down to people who are actually willing to race cleanly. No troll would put in 7 laps' worth of effort to troll

In the words of my wise president, you are
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Getting rid of bashers by making them and everyone drive 7 clean laps is akin to social cleansing. PD would never go down this route as the game would be panned and 80% of existing players wouldn't bother playing the game.

Why does every idea have to be a negative first approach. May I suggest more positive ideas that encourage and incentivise people to drive fairly?

- XP bonus for clean overtakes
- 200% XP bonus for a clean race rather than the meagre 50% at present
- Bonus car for 5 consecutive clean races

Also it would help if the penalty system actually worked.

 

[Knukel]

- XP bonus for clean overtakes
- 200% ((Cr.)) bonus for a clean race rather than the meagre 50% at present
- Bonus car for 5 consecutive clean races

It's ridiculous how GT Sport is supposed to be online based game, yet the best way to earn credits is to put away your driving wheel, tune X-Bow to handle like a car from ridge racer, pick boring oval track where it doesn't belong to & use rubberband as accelerator... -> Earn countless millions for a car you'll most likely get free.

Edit: Misread 200% bonus XP as extra Credits... But yes, i agree that giving candy for fair racecraft is the key for better experience for everyone.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Getting rid of bashers by making them and everyone drive 7 clean laps is akin to social cleansing. PD would never go down this route as the game would be panned and 80% of existing players wouldn't bother playing the game.

Why does every idea have to be a negative first approach. May I suggest more positive ideas that encourage and incentivise people to drive fairly?

- XP bonus for clean overtakes
- 200% XP bonus for a clean race rather than the meagre 50% at present
- Bonus car for 5 consecutive clean races

Also it would help if the penalty system actually worked.

For reasons if which I state I will be banned from this forum, I wholly disagree with your statement.

 

[ste.sully]

Go and ask Kaz for your hardcore mode then. Don't punish everyone else just for some idiots who can't drive.

 

[Jamie Bbbbb]

• Monza > DT Gardens
• The Megane Gr. 4 is a beautiful car and fun to drive
• You don't need to apologise for every mistake you make and expect others to apologise in the post-race lobby chat. It's just a game.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

I don't want to punish everyone for idiots who can't drive. I really do. But I'll doubt everyone who isn't willing to do 7 clean laps that they're clean in the first place

 

[VBR]

I absolutely despise, with an all consuming hatred, the utterly horrific & ear bleedingly awful transmission whine in GT games. I would rather pour sulphuric acid into my ears & then top it off by hammering some nine inch nails in there as well for good measure than listen to it!

👎

Conversely, I love the sound of transmission whine in real life, & in every other racing game/sim I've ever played.

 

[cleanLX]

Go and ask Kaz for your hardcore mode then. Don't punish everyone else just for some idiots who can't drive.

Fair enough, so, maybe it's not implemented in all races, maybe it's just in race C, or, maybe they make a race D, possibly you cannot even enter race D with an Sr. less that say, 95 as example... oh wait, is that social cleansing too, or, is that a reward system?
I get that PD's player base is massive, and the great majority have no interest in doing anything other than hopping from race to race.
But there also seems to be a fair number of folks wanting cleaner racing, and I'm betting a rather large portion of them already spend a half hour or more practicing/qualifying a car/track combo prior racing anyways.

For reasons if which I state I will be banned from this forum, I wholly disagree with your statement.

Oh... now this I would love to hear. PM if you have the time... guessing the basis, but would so love to hear it from a 17 year olds perspective.

 

[mthomas_95]

Not only will the 7 quali lap proposal (5 consecutive) turn away the majority of players, but no A+ guy will bother doing that many just for a Daily for crying out loud

My top leaderboard time at Suzuka yesterday was done with just 3 completed laps, so obviously I'd be super unclean if I raced . If you just want hyper committed GTP members in your races set up a lobby

A couple of unpopular opinions;

• Gr1 cars are 'easier' to drive than Gr3
• Cut penalties at La Sarthe (in Sport Mode at least) are good and make sense
• Pre-1.21 penalty system was better than what we have now
• Lack of world time trial leaderboards is an excellent game design decision

 

[Jamie Bbbbb]

• Lack of world time trial leaderboards is an excellent game design decision

What???

 

[mthomas_95]

What???

You just end up with people lapping around by themselves instead of actually racing. People don't improve their racecraft in Time Trial.

Hotlapping is so last generation. Now you have the network infrastructure to actually race people and not get killed by lag every 20 seconds. You now can see the Daily qualifying times for everyone on the GT site or kudos, which I think is a good balance.

 

[WheelmanSteve]

I'd rather race 3-5 truly clean opponents with comparable pace than a "full" grid.

 

[Macboyilija]

We have lobby racing for this. Maybe its getting more and more popular.

 

[Famine]

I have what seems to be quite an unpopular GT Sport opinion...

*clears throat*

I quite like GT Sport.

 

[MisterOne77]

I absolutely despise, with an all consuming hatred, the utterly horrific & ear bleedingly awful transmission whine in GT games. I would rather pour sulphuric acid into my ears & then top it off by hammering some nine inch nails in there as well for good measure than listen to it!

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Conversely, I love the sound of transmission whine in real life, & in every other racing game/sim I've ever played.

I mean, they're really not that bad IMO. Are your ears sensitive?

 

[CBH]

You just end up with people lapping around by themselves instead of actually racing. People don't improve their racecraft in Time Trial.

The one thing about Time Trials, you don't get stupid players destroying your race.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

I mean, they're really not that bad IMO. Are your ears sensitive?

It's bad for him IHO

 

[Typhlosion]

GT Auto is gone, along with the ability to wash your car, change it's oil, and the deterioration that comes with constant driving. The tuning has been stripped down to a point where you can't put a turbo or supercharger on your car, you can't increase the rev-limiter through upgrades, and you can't change the torque curve in any way. No weather, not only does that annoy players like me who would like to have a wet race, but it gives the sim racers another reason to gloat at Gran Turismo players. Time doesn't advance, bringing endurance races back to the days of GT4, where you have 24 hours of sunlight. And worst of all, you can't change the torque distribution on non-rally cars.

Honestly Polyphony, why did you have to suck the life out of such a great game series?

 

[Cerebral303]

Kaz said people don't know in depth about cars now or care about tuning.

This is a bad excuse, since most people learnt so much and got started by delving into the tuning options in GT games.

I hope it is just temporary for this game because they wanted to focus on FIA racing and not individual tunes, and hear the backlash.

Maybe an unpopular opinion:

The FIA trophy statue looks bloody ugly. It is an ungainly abomination that looks like it was damaged in a fire or like the Elephant man on expedition up Everest.

I for one am glad I am a below par driver and will never win it, either digitally or real life

 

[Alpha Cipher]

I loved the Cultus more than the Escudo in GT2

Why was the Cultus forgotten in subsequent GT games I freaking loved that car! It got overshadowed by the Escudo TAT

Man ever since I remembered the Cultus I can't take it off my mind now I really miss that car

 

[K32]

Maybe an unpopular opinion:

The FIA trophy statue looks bloody ugly. It is an ungainly abomination that looks like it was damaged in a fire or like the Elephant man on expedition up Everest.

I for one am glad I am a below par driver and will never win it, either digitally or real life

It's an abstract statue of a samurai in a specific stance.

Imagine turning the second photo 180 degrees around there you have it, the sword the statue is holding is hidden behind right leg (legs second photo should be more stretched out to match the zenkutsudachi (karate) stance of the statue though).

As for the unpopular opinion (at least recently in GTP):

Spa-Francorchamps is coming in the July update.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

It's an abstract statue of a samurai in a specific stance.

Imagine turning the second photo 180 degrees around there you have it, the sword the statue is holding is hidden behind right leg (legs second photo should be more stretched out to match the zenkutsudachi (karate) stance of the statue though).

As for the unpopular opinion (at least recently in GTP):

Spa-Francorchamps is coming in the July update.

Really? I thought it was based off of a real trophy? I read this somewhere I'm pretty sure, but I can't find it again

 

[K32]

Really? I thought it was based off of a real trophy? I read this somewhere I'm pretty sure, but I can't find it again

It is based off a real trophy (shown in the intro movie), but that trophy is based on a samurai. Sorry if the "abstract" part confused you, I meant the shape of it doesn't exactly replicate a samurai in real-life, but includes more flowing lines and bulges to make it likeable to the eye.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

It is based off a real trophy (shown in the intro movie), but that trophy is based on a samurai.

Ohhh that's amazing

 

[K32]

Ohhh that's amazing

Explained a bit on the abstract bit that might've confused you in an edit in my previous post. ^

Plus here it is in the intro video. (PD scanning it (0:03 - 0:21) and the statue shown in a better light (2:45 - 2:59)) 👍


Doesn't seem so ugly knowing what it's based on now does it?

 

[Famine]

but that trophy is based on a samurai

That would seem highly incongruous. Boccioni was a Futurist, and Unique Forms of Continuity in Space is considered one of the most iconic pieces of Futurist art. Futurism was, as the name suggests, centred on the future of society, with speed, modern technology like cars and planes, and industrialism as inspirations for the art works.

That would rather beg the question of why Boccioni would use the 1,000-year old samurai tradition as inspiration for such a piece.

I don't know what the inspiration is, but the commonly cited one is "the sight of a football player moving on to a perfectly weighted pass".

 

[K32]

That would seem highly incongruous. Boccioni was a Futurist, and Unique Forms of Continuity in Space is considered one of the most iconic pieces of Futurist art. Futurism was, as the name suggests, centred on the future of society, with speed, modern technology like cars and planes, and industrialism as inspirations for the art works.

That would rather beg the question of why Boccioni would use the 1,000-year old samurai tradition as inspiration for such a piece.

I don't know what the inspiration is, but the commonly cited one is "the sight of a football player moving on to a perfectly weighted pass".

Sorry Famine, I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to art. I just used what I know from karate and Japanese culture to help decipher the statue.

From what I could see the helmet matches that of a samurai somewhat (looks nothing like a football player's).

That would rather beg the question of why Boccioni would use the 1,000-year old samurai tradition as inspiration for such a piece.

Perhaps because the Japanese (stereotypically) take great pride in achieving perfection through what they do, in every movement, every stance and that the samurai was the best way to represent that "Form of Continuity" (The never ending effort) towards perfection. The future (futurism) needs to strive for perfection, thus the connection I guess.

Sorry for sounding awfully philosophical.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

That would seem highly incongruous. Boccioni was a Futurist, and Unique Forms of Continuity in Space is considered one of the most iconic pieces of Futurist art. Futurism was, as the name suggests, centred on the future of society, with speed, modern technology like cars and planes, and industrialism as inspirations for the art works.

That would rather beg the question of why Boccioni would use the 1,000-year old samurai tradition as inspiration for such a piece.

I don't know what the inspiration is, but the commonly cited one is "the sight of a football player moving on to a perfectly weighted pass".

The inspiration seems to be "surpassing the limits of the human body; its pose indicative of a firm stride forward, its body rippled by the wind"*
*Overly dramatized statement from the original source