Gran Turismo World Series 2024 Thread

[AdxRE]

EMEA GT1, Slot #1, 273 points lobby, Door #10 - did not get to practice at all except for 15 mins before the race so relying on my experience from Daily Races in the McLaren on RH tyres.

Was the 1st car out of the pit for Quali, thinking I can have a great clear piece of track to myself, then managed to pick up 1s penalty on the outlap 🤣 Starting again from the pit and only managed 1:49.4 and surprised to find myself lining up 4th despite being almost 1s off pole.

The race started with the 3rd guy getting a 1.5s wall penalty (I really don’t think we need such a harsh wall penalty when we already have heavy damage?), while the Ferrari behind closing by rapidly. He was in the inside at the back straight so I just let him by as my Quali position was probably “inflated” with lots of faster drivers behind.

The top 3 (including that Ferrari) then pulled away like I was in a Gr.4, but interestingly I was also dropping those behind. By Lap 4 I had 2-3s gaps either side so just settled down and finished in 4th without any drama. I was definitely in the lower half of the grid in terms of race pace (1:49.7-1:50.1 on all laps, leaders’ were at 1:49.0) but slow and steady once again brought me another great result.

May skip round 2 entirely since I hated the Gr.4 Daily Race at Deep Forest reverse with passion. No idea if Gr.3 will be any better…

 

[Roggers]

Anyone in the Ferrari? If some any pointers in how to drive the Gr3 car?
So far I’ve done a few laps at Bathurst and Nords and not had too bad of an experience. The rear is a bit lose on some corners, and I’m running TC1 jus t help with stability, but are they any tricks to the car?

 

[Lewmatic]

The NSX weight transfer feels a lot better after the bop weight loss which all I wanted for it and acceleration out of turns got stronger as well. Was having downshift issues with my wheel sometimes which had my running 1 second slower than what I can consistently run but still got podium in what I knew was gonna be a solo run after the first lap.

 

[SupaflyIRL]

Shocking to me that my favorite race of the last Nations exhibition season was the Cappuccino race.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Anyone in the Ferrari? If some any pointers in how to drive the Gr3 car?
So far I’ve done a few laps at Bathurst and Nords and not had too bad of an experience. The rear is a bit lose on some corners, and I’m running TC1 jus t help with stability, but are they any tricks to the car?

I have a lot of saddle time in the Ferrari. It’s 10x easier to drive in GT7 than it was in GTS, and it got a little better still, with this last BOP change. The trick to keeping the Ferrari in a straight line….is to always brake in a straight line before you apex into the corner, and keep a bit of throttle input if you even think about trying to trail-brake into a turn. Car doesn’t like kerbs whatsoever, as well 100% braking - anything that makes the weight shift too violent, really.

Basically take everything you’ve learned driving other GR.3 cars and throw it out the window

….easy 😂

 

[MetalApe]

I think my cunning plan of picking Mitsubishi has backfired. Back from a great trip to Japan last month I had to go for a Japanese manufacturer this time. I'm also going for the 'different manufacturer each championship' approach. So this mini exhibition series seemed a good time to pick a not so strong manufacturer. Last season no one in the UK picked Mitsubishi, so a chance for an easy win and to pocket some bags of gold. Unfortunately not, this time there's 3 of us, so I've got a fight on.

I hope someone can tell the GR3 Mitsubishi is really crap, at Grand Valley at least. I just had no pace there, if it's not the car, then it's me. Attempts one and two I ended up 13th, trailing around on my own at the back, the only action coming from spinners catching up and passing.

I wasn't going to bother going again, when I as luck would have it I finished watching my DVD at three minutes to nine. With a spur of the moment decision I fired up the PS5, stuck on the headset and got in with one and half minutes to spare. Pace wise didn't seem much better, but I think I lucked into a lobby with a good few failures like me who had to run again due to crap earlier races. Thankfully the opposition was making a lot more mistakes this time, meaning by running a slow but clean race I managed to bring it home 10th. There were a couple of drivers I could see closing in on me, but before they could get too close they'd slip back.

 

[Roggers]

….easy 😂

Hahahahahahahaha Easy 🤣


Yeah rear wants to swap on some corners when braking/lift off. Max -5 BB is helping.
The brake and throttle I've found I've had to do in a few corners as well.

Have to say it's quite enjoyable the Ferrari. Pace wise I'm not sure on GTWS, but I'm 1 seconds slower than my Monza time in Daily C (lexus time) but ive only down a few laps.

 

[Talon16]

I am also kinda bummed to see Weds as a likely day for the series, if for no other reason than have two races per week doesn't give a lot of time for us casuals to actually practice.

For this Manu I am already looking passed the next two races and concentrating on Nord. I already know I won't be available on Saturday night; I might be able to do one on an alt but I won't be able to practice as much as I'd like regardless. Same thing with Bathurst but that'll be another that I just have to play by ear... won't be chuffed missing that awful track anyway, especially since we just had it at the last event. I think one race per week is about perfect, even if it takes longer.

 

[Moose78]

I did a fair bit of strategy testing at Deep Forest -- GT2 with the VW Scrirocco -- on the forward layout of the track before discovering the race is going to be on the reverse layout. I had charts and tables -- the whole nine yards -- all ready to go.

I'm not sure how much of that will be transferrable to the reverse direction, but I did a full-length test race this morning on the reverse track and, although I was much slower, the tire wear seemed to be quite similar to what I saw in the forward direction. So here's a quick summary. Take it for what it's worth.

The Scirocco, being an FF car, sees all its tire wear in the front tires. The rear tires see almost no wear at all.

Starting on RSs, it would take until lap 13 for the front right tire to go completely bare. Lap times started suffering noticeably on lap 11. I found that 11RS-4RM gave me my best time.

Starting on RMs, I found I could get an extra lap out the RSs before the front right was completely done. In fact, I had my best time with a 1RM-14RS strategy, even though my lap times were steadily increasing from lap 12. But I found that there was a pretty big window -- from 2-6 laps on RMs -- where my overall race time was about the same.

Prior to signing with VW, I also did a few test races with Renault and Alfa Romeo cars, also in the forward direction. The MR ones -- Alfa 4C, and Renault Trophy -- could both easily do 14 laps on the RSs with close to half of their tire tread left. The distribution of wear is more even, though, and I felt like limiting myself to 13 laps might have been faster, as I did start to notice some effects on my lap times in the later laps.

 

[Talon16]

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Starting on RSs, it would take until lap 13 for the front right tire to go completely bare. Lap times started suffering noticeably on lap 11. I found that 11RS-4RM gave me my best time.

Starting on RMs, I found I could get an extra lap out the RSs before the front right was completely done. In fact, I had my best time with a 1RM-14RS strategy, ...

FWIW, the race is 16 laps and not 15.

 

[Moose78]

FWIW, the race is 16 laps and not 15.

Good god! Can I get nothing right with this race? It IS Gr.4 though, right?

 

[GlockPants]

Good god! Can I get nothing right with this race? It IS Gr.4 though, right?

Not that I think you actually needed the confirmation, but yes, for GT2 and GT3

 

[guitargeek]

I too mistook the track for this weekend, had done a bunch of practice and tire testing forwards, only to join a lobby last night to practice and be shocked when I was going the wrong way out of the pits... I swear I read it multiple times, but still got it wrong. At least I had the right laps/car/multipliers so it's not all wasted testing. Other than the haripin entry, I like the reverse track at least for hot-lapping.

Anyway, with the correct assumptions now, I went off and did some practice until last night and got it sorted. Consistently between 1:26.5 - 1:27 on the RS tire which feels bout right for my skill level. Tire testing gets me 14 laps on RS (if running them first) before the white is gone on the left rear and the car is all slidey in the twisty area. If I run the medium first, I can squeeze 1-2 more laps out of the RS with the lighter car reducing tire wear. So I'm looking at a 13RS -> 9RM or a 8RM -> 14RS as my baseline strats depending on grid position. I've got just under a lap of fuel at the end, so no fuel-up needed.

 

[Bojador]

Did some practice. You can do the whole 16 laps on RS on the gr4 McLaren, so you can choose when to pit or start on RM and pit on lap 1.

Managed a 1:32.8xx as my best lap and 1:32.5xx as my optimum lap.

I find this track quite enjoyable to drive on both layouts. The hairpin on the reverse layout it's a bit annoying, but the rest of the track has a nice flow. Difficult to follow someone in that sequence of corners, but fun nonetheless.

I hope I can find the time to race on Saturday. It should be a good one.

 

[Talon16]

Good god! Can I get nothing right with this race? It IS Gr.4 though, right?

lol. Good news is the extra lap likely won't effect your strat... just an extra on the RMs.

 

[911RSR]

I'm a bit confused by the regulations for the next race: https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gt7/sportmode/championship/866/2

There is "Required Tire Type Change:Racing RM RS"
and "Minimum No. of Pit Stopsff"

Isn't that a contradiction?

 

[bduddy]

I'm a bit confused by the regulations for the next race: https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gt7/sportmode/championship/866/2

There is "Required Tire Type Change:Racing RM RS"
and "Minimum No. of Pit Stopsff"

Isn't that a contradiction?

They don't put a minimum number of pit stops unless it's a requirement above and beyond the mandatory tires. Yes, in order to fit both mandatory tires, you will need to make at least one pit stop.

 

[Meythia]

Isn't that a contradiction?

That is not contradicting, but just stating the minimal requirements.
One of both can mandate the other to be true, there is never a contradiction with minimal requirements.

Only if it were "You have to use H+M+S" + "You may NOT pit more than once", but this is not a setup the game allows (yet) and there wouldnt be a reason to create any such setup as it obviously contradicts each other

 

[ElectricNaz]

Really enjoying this car/track combo with the G70.

A few laps this morning, managed to quite quickly get down to a 32.6 with a 32.4 being optimal. Quietly confident about this race tbf.

Going to try and do a practice race and work out strategy now, of course it matters not a jot because I will mess up qualifying and it'll all be moot anyway

Edit: Barely get 8 laps out of the fronts with this car. Might be tempted to go RS 7 / RM9 as the car becomes so difficult to turn in from lap 7/8. And the delta to the mediums doesn't seem that bad tbh.

 

[Bojador]

I kinda wish all gt2/3 rounds would be on gr4. Anyone else?

 

[Fezzik]

I kinda wish all gt2/3 rounds would be on gr4. Anyone else?

Nope. I want to go all Gr3, but sadly I'll never be fast enough to get into the GT1 league.
So many cars I love in Gr3 (even if they are ancient), so few I can stand in Gr4.

 

[911RSR]

I kinda wish all gt2/3 rounds would be on gr4. Anyone else?

I wouldn't mind doing all 4 races in the Cayman CS. It's so easy to drive that my driving skills limit my results and not the car.

 

[Bojador]

Nope. I want to go all Gr3, but sadly I'll never be fast enough to get into the GT1 league.
So many cars I love in Gr3 (even if they are ancient), so few I can stand in Gr4.

I get that. Maybe gt2 could be gr3 but fewer laps, gt3 would be gr4, and gt1 would be gr3 but longer races. That way you could feel the accomplishment of graduating from gt3 to gt2, and gt2 to gt1.

 

[Talon16]

They don't put a minimum number of pit stops unless it's a requirement above and beyond the mandatory tires. Yes, in order to fit both mandatory tires, you will need to make at least one pit stop.

Williams: "Hold my beer."

 

[DK]

Not that I think you actually needed the confirmation, but yes, for GT2 and GT3

Me, a Slophy driver:

 

[Moose78]

I kinda wish all gt2/3 rounds would be on gr4. Anyone else?

Yes and no.

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I prefer driving the Gr.4 category over Gr.3 -- especially after the BoP update. I like the variety of drivetrains. I like that the races are a bit slower so you can plan out your moves more carefully. The Gr.3 cars all feel the same to me -- all rear-wheel drive, with the only difference being how each car balances between top speed and cornering.

But I wouldn't want a Manu Cup that is only one category. IMO, the best part of the GT2/3 leagues is that it uses both categories. You can't just pick one of the three top cars. You are forced to consider both categories and find a manufacturer that works best for you.

As for tomorrow's race, I'm starting to feel like I might not get totally destroyed there. GT2 league. Driving the VW Scirocco.

I spent most of yesterday evening learning the track while simultaneously testing out tire wear. Towards the end of the session, I did a few laps in Free Practice and booked a time of 1:33.080, which is not too far off from what @MCL1974 and @GlockPants posted. I figure if I can keep up with those two, I'm in pretty good shape on pace. They will, no doubt, drop their times by some huge amount sometime today and I'll once again be filled with worry and dread. But for now, I'm feeling alright.

On strategy and tire wear, things are not too different from my tests in the forward direction. Starting on RMs, the longest I can reasonably stretch out the RSs is 13 laps. The sweet spot looks like it is 5RM-11RS. Starting on RSs, I can get them to last 12 laps. I'm guessing somewhere around 10RS-6RM is optimal, but I still have to run some more tests.

I'm planning to go with RMs first unless I qualify in the top 5.

 

[Famine]

Isn't that a contradiction?

So... no. They're two different regulations.

A mandatory pit stop requires you to take a pass down the pit lane without necessarily taking tyres or fuel. This is kept separate from tyre requirement regulations which can effectively require a pit stop, but since you need to take new tyres at least once it's not the same thing as a mandatory pit stop which doesn't require a tyre change.

High fuel consumption regulations can also effectively require a pit stop, but this too isn't the same thing as a mandatory stop.

I do wish they'd stop labelling required/mandatory tyres as "required tyre type change" though, as it's so easy to be misled into thinking you need to change tyres for all grades rather than your starting grade being included.

 

[Meythia]

The Gr.3 cars all feel the same to me -- all rear-wheel drive, with the only difference being how each car balances between top speed and cornering.

With a bit of a few cars that dont like braking while cornering (I do remember Mr. Gallo spinning out in his NSX Gr.3 on Suzuka Race Track T1 to support this statement 🙄), and a few cars that dont like applying throttle while cornering.
And a few that hate their tyres. No wonder the selection of cars seen wasnt all that big not too long ago.
If the races would require refueling and actual tyremanagement instead of just "pit once" it might make it a bit more interesting I think - though Im not in a position to make any huge points as I dont partake. Just from a spectators point of few doing Gr.3 Chilli races ...

 

[911RSR]

So... no. They're two different regulations.

A mandatory pit stop requires you to take a pass down the pit lane without necessarily taking tyres or fuel. This is kept separate from tyre requirement regulations which can effectively require a pit stop, but since you need to take new tyres at least once it's not the same thing as a mandatory pit stop which doesn't require a tyre change.

I do wish they'd stop labelling required/mandatory tyres as "required tyre type change" though, as it's so easy to be misled into thinking you need to change tyres for all grades rather than your starting grade being included.

Absolutely! As in my interpretation "Minimum No. of Pit Stops: off" opens the door to the "Williams Method" mentioned by @Talon16

 

[OJBrit]

Ugh, the Wednesday racing is back for good.
I think I'm out.

If we get Sunday Gazoos again I'm up for that instead.

Wednesday has been a regular feature of the GTWS (FIA) since I started racing in GTS. The Saturday only and having 1 series start and and end before the other is a recent thing.