Gran Turismo World Series (Nations Cup Exhibition Season: Jan 22 - Feb 1)

[Famine]

I assume not being able to toggle drs on/off is just a PD thing and not me being blind/stupid?

It's a car thing. You have to activate it.

 

[LogSwapper]

It's a car thing. You have to activate it.

Where do you activate the toggle option?

 

[Famine]

Where do you activate the toggle option?

What do you mean? DRS activates when you press the button, and deactivates when you don't (or when you exceed certain steering angles, or throttle position decreases from maximum).

You seem to have a button mapped for it, per your comment about your hand hurting from holding it, so it should work just fine.

 

[LogSwapper]

What do you mean? DRS activates when you press the button, and deactivates when you don't (or when you exceed certain steering angles, or throttle position decreases from maximum).

You seem to have a button mapped for it, per your comment about your hand hurting from holding it, so it should work just fine.

Toggle on/off = press button to open/ press button to close. Without the need to constantly hold down the button.
Would be a very handy option, but pd doesn’t, generally, like to give options to players.

 

[Famine]

Toggle on/off = press button to open/ press button to close. Without the need to constantly hold down the button.
Would be a very handy option, but pd doesn’t, generally, like to give options to players.

That's not how DRS works though. The car's DRS operates exactly like the car's DRS does: it's on when you press the button and within certain input parameters, and off at all other times.

It's not zone-locked, use-limited, or gap-dependant like the real thing though (although in DTM in 2019 DRS was enabled in the final five laps of a race in the DRS zones regardless of following distance).

 

[OJBrit]

If it is hurting to hold for all of 10 seconds when you use it you can change the button to one which is more comfortable.

Just checked and the GT2 races also end at 6pm. That means I'm out for this Weds. If you're going to bring back Wednesday racing then you need to have proper evening slots. This is not thought out at all!

 

[LogSwapper]

10 seconds, or 60 seconds each lap, same same I guess.

 

[fardoche]

I have been doing my fair share of practices in random lobbies. There seems to be a lot of them, maybe the post christmass effect with new players joining GT7.

I am really enjoying the practices races so far. I must have 80+ of racing done in the past few days. I get 1.34 ish best time during a race. I have met way faster player, and pushing for faster lap result in lost of control. I'm stuck in that comfort zone, but for 18 laps, I will bet on the confort zone to finish the race.

 

[Skyrocket44]

Getting the feeling that 9M->9M might be faster than 12M->6S. There's less overall wear which makes things more lenient in the face of spins/damage, and there's undercut potential against M->S runners with the 3 lap wear advantage and clean air. I also have an under-over flex in case someone else tries 9M->9M by pitting on lap 8 or 10, leaning towards 8.
However, it might be vulnerable to soft tyres in the final quarter. Best case scenario, they pass me after a few attempts before their tyres die in lap 18 and I pick them off. Otherwise they run away and I get held up in the final northwest corner.

 

[Nakano219]

Getting the feeling that 9M->9M might be faster than 12M->6S. There's less overall wear which makes things more lenient in the face of spins/damage, and there's undercut potential against M->S runners with the 3 lap wear advantage and clean air. I also have an under-over flex in case someone else tries 9M->9M by pitting on lap 8 or 10, leaning towards 8.
However, it might be vulnerable to soft tyres in the final quarter. Best case scenario, they pass me after a few attempts before their tyres die in lap 18 and I pick them off. Otherwise they run away and I get held up in the final northwest corner.

You have to run the softs at some point, both mediums and softs are set as required tyres.

 

[Eliminatorek]

Toggle on/off = press button to open/ press button to close. Without the need to constantly hold down the button.
Would be a very handy option, but pd doesn’t, generally, like to give options to players.

can not think of anything different then this gag - see link.

Spoiler: Language warning

 

[Skyrocket44]

You have to run the softs at some point, both mediums and softs are set as required tyres.

Lol nvm, would've been interesting otherwise

 

[dazdilly75]

Just did a race against an A rated driver who was using ASM and he literally gapped me an a few other A+ guys with relative ease. He was hitting 33' s on medium tyres with relative ease and he wasn't suffering the same amount of tyre wear as the rest of us. So there is definitely still an advantage gained from using ASM in the race if that's your thing. I think it works better in high powered MR cars, because it neutralises the issue with the transfer of weight that MR cars sometimes face. In the fast chicane, he was pretty much flat out every time. I wonder why PD got rid of one assist but kept the other in GT1 league. Surely skilled drivers will be able to maximise the advantage it gives?

 

[RCC_Joey]

Just did a race against an A rated driver who was using ASM and he literally gapped me an a few other A+ guys with relative ease. He was hitting 33' s on medium tyres with relative ease and he wasn't suffering the same amount of tyre wear as the rest of us. So there is definitely still an advantage gained from using ASM in the race if that's your thing. I think it works better in high powered MR cars, because it neutralises the issue with the transfer of weight that MR cars sometimes face. In the fast chicane, he was pretty much flat out every time. I wonder why PD got rid of one assist but kept the other in GT1 league. Surely skilled drivers will be able to maximise the advantage it gives?

Highly doubt it. At least for really fast players. It may saves tyres but loses pace overall, very very rarely you ll see top dogs using any assist aside from abs or when raining.

I'm really surprised they ditched CSA after all this time. Besides the stability it gives it also helps massively with rammers. Expecting more crashes in every Cup race from now on. It burns tyres though so at least there is that but it will increase the skill ceiling. I was a advocate of it until very recently. Reached A+ using it (on wheel). As someone pointed out it is kinda OP in certain scenarios.

At nords in a recent cup race I even saw a S/S player using it .

 

[Moose78]

It's going to be the Lexus for me. That much is settled now. I'm not as fast as I'd like to be, of course. On RSs, I'm in the high 34s - low 35s. About a second slower on the RMs. Not great, but it is what it is. I've done a few lobby races for practice and it has been good enough to not feel completely embarrassed when compared to the other A-rated drivers.

Strategy-wise, I'll be aiming for 12RM-6RS. If the lobbies I've tried so far are any indication, though, that's probably not what I'll end up doing. The more likely scenario is that I'll bang into the wall on one of my passes through the kink, ride out the damage until lap 11, and run an extra lap on RSs to the end for an 11RM-7RS strategy.

Another aspect of my strategy is going to be entering the first slot of the day (6PM local time). I noticed in my lobby races that many drivers quit before the race ended. I'm hoping this carries over to the official race, and the effect will be strongest in the first slot, when drivers have the most options to try again later. If all goes well, I'll be able to pick up positions simply by finishing.

Ultimately, I'm not expecting much in the way of results in this race. P5 to P8 is probably the most I can hope for. P9 to P12 seems more likely. Looking forward to having some fun, though, regardless of where I finish.

Good luck in your races tomorrow! I'm looking forward to reading all the race reports.

 

[dazdilly75]

Highly doubt it. At least for really fast players. It may saves tyres but loses pace overall, very very rarely you ll see top dogs using any assist aside from abs or when raining.

I'm really surprised they ditched CSA after all this time. Besides the stability it gives it also helps massively with rammers. Expecting more crashes in every Cup race from now on. It burns tyres though so at least there is that but it will increase the skill ceiling. I was a advocate of it until very recently. Reached A+ using it (on wheel). As someone pointed out it is kinda OP in certain scenarios.

At nords in a recent cup race I even saw a S/S player using it .

I mean you are welcome to doubt anything I say, but I was the one in the race and witnessed it myself. Also, ASM works better with certain drivetrains and track combos, than it does with others. In the recent Mazda Roadster, Daily Race A, at Road Altlanta, one of the top 10 timess in the world, was set by a highly rated Japanese driver, who used ASM. I have also seen other highly rated A+ drivers use it in the past, with certain car and track combos. At the very top level, it's frowned upon, but.most of us here don't race at that level, so to just dismiss it as something which slows you down in any combo just isn't true.

 

[NAXEHT]

I mean you are welcome to doubt anything I say, but I was the one in the race and witnessed it myself. Also, ASM works better with certain drivetrains and track combos, than it does with others. In the recent Mazda Roadster, Daily Race A, at Road Altlanta, one of the top 10 timess in the world, was set by a highly rated Japanese driver, who used ASM. I have also seen other highly rated A+ drivers use it in the past, with certain car and track combos. At the very top level, it's frowned upon, but.most of us here don't race at that level, so to just dismiss it as something which slows you down in any combo just isn't true.

Sure you’re not confusing ASM with CSA? CSA can make the handling a bit different but still one’s very much able to produce absolute top times (inside top 10 worldwide) with it on. An acquaintance of mine has done that several times, I’ve also seen sirvia use CSA many times. But ASM is very rare.

 

[OJBrit]

Highly doubt it. At least for really fast players. It may saves tyres but loses pace overall, very very rarely you ll see top dogs using any assist aside from abs or when raining.

I'm really surprised they ditched CSA after all this time. Besides the stability it gives it also helps massively with rammers. Expecting more crashes in every Cup race from now on. It burns tyres though so at least there is that but it will increase the skill ceiling. I was a advocate of it until very recently. Reached A+ using it (on wheel). As someone pointed out it is kinda OP in certain scenarios.

At nords in a recent cup race I even saw a S/S player using it .

It also helps rammers too. They can hit and push with abandon without spinning out themselves and of course it helps them against retribution attacks. I reckon that is why they have got rid of it for these races.

 

[dazdilly75]

Sure you’re not confusing ASM with CSA? CSA can make the handling a bit different but still one’s very much able to produce absolute top times (inside top 10 worldwide) with it on. An acquaintance of mine has done that several times, I’ve also seen sirvia use CSA many times. But ASM is very rare.

I've definitely seen ASM give an advantage. As I said previously, it's not common but it does happen on certain combos. I'm an a+ driver and I race I 300+ point lobbies. So I notice it when a player uses it from watching replays. I also know the player, as I've raced with him various times over the years and he isn't someone I've seen use it previously, so obviously it works for him on this particular combo.

 

[fardoche]

It's going to be the Lexus for me. That much is settled now. I'm not as fast as I'd like to be, of course. On RSs, I'm in the high 34s - low 35s. About a second slower on the RMs. Not great, but it is what it is. I've done a few lobby races for practice and it has been good enough to not feel completely embarrassed when compared to the other A-rated drivers.

Strategy-wise, I'll be aiming for 12RM-6RS. If the lobbies I've tried so far are any indication, though, that's probably not what I'll end up doing. The more likely scenario is that I'll bang into the wall on one of my passes through the kink, ride out the damage until lap 11, and run an extra lap on RSs to the end for an 11RM-7RS strategy.

Another aspect of my strategy is going to be entering the first slot of the day (6PM local time). I noticed in my lobby races that many drivers quit before the race ended. I'm hoping this carries over to the official race, and the effect will be strongest in the first slot, when drivers have the most options to try again later. If all goes well, I'll be able to pick up positions simply by finishing.

Ultimately, I'm not expecting much in the way of results in this race. P5 to P8 is probably the most I can hope for. P9 to P12 seems more likely. Looking forward to having some fun, though, regardless of where I finish.

Good luck in your races tomorrow! I'm looking forward to reading all the race reports.

I was looking for the right words to describe that section: "the kink". I like it!

Anyhow, one thing I found difficult at the kink is when following someone close, my visual cue and timing was completely off in this situation. It is worth trying a few lobby race in the back position just to experience it.

 

[Interemptor]

Vacation is something beautiful 😁

After a couple more test runs (only in free practive) I`ll have to go with the NSX. Got my time with the GTR down to 1:34.3 but with the NSX I got it down to 1:33.196. Still not great but I can hit mid 33s constantly.

Also "the kink" (like that too ) is much easier with the NSX.. at least for me.

 

[Interemptor]

Nations Cup Round 1, EMEA, Mid/High B DR, 121 pts for win, Door #9

10 or so out of 16 drivers were german 😎

Qualifying started great. Drove out in P1 and crossed the white line Quit and got back on track between some drivers. Everybody left space to the guy in front which was great to see.

Qualified in P2. Nice 💪

The race was very close in the first few laps. Every lap I lost some time in Turn 1 to the leader but was way faster in the kink. The drivers behind stayed close until lap 4 when the leader pitted for mediums. I stayed out and pitted after lap 5 behind the leader (lost P1 after a mistake)

Came out in P7 but the swiss driver who lead the race was nowhere to be seen. As the idiot that I am I forgot to save the replay to see what was happening. 🤦‍♂️ The guy in P1 was hit by someone who didn't pit yet. Totally dumb move.

Climbed my way back up to P3 and in lap 7 or 8 I spun after the kink because I touched the grass. Overall I struggled extremly with the medium tires.

After my mistake the gap was gone and a slight mistake later i lost P3 to the guy who started in P5. After everyone had pitted it was P2 for me.

The last laps were nerve wrecking. I stayed close to P1 and so did P3 to me. In lap 12 I gained heavily at the kink and closed to gap to P1 and leading into turn 1 I made a move on the inside. Thankfully P1 left the door open and I got back in P1.

Won with a tiny margin and netted myself nice 121 points 😊

 

[D_Dragline]

A word of warning. If you choose to do 7 laps on softs in the NSX, the last lap is VERY sketchy.

If you choose to do 8 (like one of my opponents did) you likely won’t make it to the end.

 

[Fezzik]

As I won't be home until after the last Euro timeslot I've got my Portal at work and may attempt a Remote Play race. This likely will end up in a lot of glitching & teleportation so apologies to anyone in my lobby.

 

[ElectricNaz]

A word of warning. If you choose to do 7 laps on softs in the NSX, the last lap is VERY sketchy.

If you choose to do 8 (like one of my opponents did) you likely won’t make it to the end.

I couldn't do 7 yesterday in practice. Pitted end of lap 9. Completely died (punctured?) before the final left hander on lap 16. Some of that will be my driving style but there is no way I'm risking that during the race!

 

[D_Dragline]

I couldn't do 7 yesterday in practice. Pitted end of lap 9. Completely died (punctured?) before the final left hander on lap 16. Some of that will be my driving style but there is no way I'm risking that during the race!

I got through 7 with a bit of white left on the rights, but the last 3 turns were slow and stressful.

Thankfully I had a 4 second buffer to p4, so no damage done. In hindsight 12m6s would have been better.

 

[LogSwapper]

I don’t think I can do better than that, so one-and-done today. 7M/7S worked well.

 

[ZEE]

A word of warning. If you choose to do 7 laps on softs in the NSX, the last lap is VERY sketchy.

If you choose to do 8 (like one of my opponents did) you likely won’t make it to the end.

I had this same issue yesterday with the NSX, it shreds the RS tyres like theres no tomorrow when i did a practice race in the lobbies. The Audi is qucik but not with BOP and the DRS only does a ittle to boost the car.

I gonna test both cars, the NSX and RCF 500 and see which works better or me before I try a Natons Race later on ths afternoon. Will report back later tonight on my racing escpades.

Good luck to all racers, keep it classy!

 

[stpatty]

Is it ever worth pitting to repair damage in a GT1 race?

 

[tankuroded]

Even with Michelin seemingly disappearing from the banner, forced tire stickers are still around... for now.

Remember that forced tire stickers are set on per-event level - hence why the 2023 Michelin TT (918 Spyder at Road Atlanta) had full-color tire stickers, although road cars cannot have that (which means the prize version did not have it either).