Gran Turismo World Series (Manufacturers Cup Exhibition Season: Feb 5 - Feb 15)

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I'm late and being the procrastinator I am, I'll share both Rounds 3 and 4 now.

The BMW was actually fun driving it despite the one-day practice I had. I started in P14 which was not too bad I suppose since it didn't start in the middle of the turns.

Lap 1 - Managed to overtake another BMW from the first tunnel without any incidents, which was surprising for a first lap.

Lap 2 - While at the start of the lap, a BMW had made an error and had gone off track. Unfortunately when it made it back on track, it was in the middle of my line, and I had to veer off to the grass to avoid a collision with it. Past the tunnel, I was side-by-side with a F40, by which my under steer caused the F40 to be pushed a bit to the wall. Thankfully, no incident.

Lap 4 - Managed to slipstream through the middle to two cars at the long straight and got away for it, for now. At the end, the LFA that I've encountered would determine the rest of the race for me.

Lap 5 - Past the first tunnel, the LFA would release its breaks earlier than expected, causing a domino effect where the contact with my BMW would hit another causing the 7th place BMW to be the causality of the whole thing. Soon enough, I took 7th.

Lap 6 - The turn after the long tunnel gave enough slipstream for the LFA and the other BMW to catch up with me. The LFA took the inside and I was bumped back to 8th.

Lap 7 - I managed to pass that LFA again by taking that same turn on the inside, somehow.

Lap 8 - That pass on Lap 7 was a bit short-lived when the LFA overtook me at the first turn. But fret not because I managed to take back after in the first tunnel with a "small" contact. And then it was short-lived again when it overtook me after the last tunnel straight. Now back at 9th place, the LFA did overshoot one of the turns, allowing me to pass back to 8th and having to deal with the other BMW for the 9th lap.

Lap 9 - As explained in a lap earlier, I did managed to overtake that BMW for 7th, and I finished in that position for a tiny 179 points.

Needless to say, it was actually more fun than Round 2 despite the bumps that came with it.






I do not think anything needs to be explained here as I was a big dum dum for starting in softs first, and then crashing after that really scary hairpin that offsets the cars in lap 8. I did not pit to deal with the damage, I went along with it that somehow did not place me in last.



Lap 1 - It was much more civilized as I started with mediums this time around, now knowing that handling is a tad-bit affected because of it. Not to say that it was smooth sailing as I nearly avoided what could be the end of this run. But right after that spooky as hell hairpin, the car in 7th misjudged the turn after the straight and hopped off into a wall. At least it didn't end that dramatically.

Lap 3 & 4 - It's where the car in 8th place would be the one I fought for 3rd in the later stages of the race, as it had started in softs and was making good use of it by making moves around the corners. But as per usual with an unsavory combo of a race, there's a blue car that keeps making bumps around until it understeered itself onto the grass.

Before Lap 12 - Somewhere in between, the lead car that was on pole had a bit of an issue as during the race, it hit the same wall that I took back in slot one and made the pit for a tire change and repairs. But after a string of bad luck and judgement, it retired midway from the race after crashing into another wall in 12th place. I pitted in at lap 7, and the car that was on 8th place at laps 3 & 4 appeared in-front of me as we fought for 3rd in the 12th lap.

Lap 12 & 13 - While the replay cameras did not do justice for this chase, it was kind of fun doing it even when the car ahead of me was in mediums. Not going to lie, it's a bit embarrassing to be behind a car of a worse compound, but I guess that's the tire life playing a part in it. The final sector was where I felt I could pass the car, but only just.

Lap 14 - Right after the first turn, is where the battle was decided for 3rd as I made a small lift and nearly lost control. Thankfully, I managed to recover and decided to take it easy for the rest of the race. 4th place was alright after all. But I was just one point away from touching the 200 points mark again :(


Overall, I thought it was going to be worse than Round 2, but it was alright at best once you got the hang of it. And unlike Round 2, it actually made me join a second session.
 
GT1 NA slot 2: Q9, Finished 4th.

Nice to see you again @Dep Fishtail who did a much better qualification time than my poor P9!:embarrassed: Congrats on the win! Started on mediums and finished on softs. My pit strategy might have gave me a position or two but I got to P4 mainly because I passed some drivers that were off track.

GT1 NA slot 3: Q11, Finished 7th.

It was a lobby with higher points. A little bit closer battles. Dirty air would give me a hard time keeping traction but its a nice thing to learn to live with. A skill that will be much needed during our future manufacturers cup with the more aero inclined GR3.

Funny thing is both races gave me 144 points.

See ya next round or maybe at the Gazoo cup this Sunday with that good looking car that sounds like a vacuum cleaner.
 
Hi, I noticed on GT Engine that there is a difference between Leagues 1 and the other two. I've been away from the game for some time, but is this true and why they do it?

Does @Mistah_MCA still cover league 2 and 3?
Most dissapointing about it is that 2/3 have no fuel consumption?
Not sure why PD does it, but it's been a thing for some time. Here's some differences between GT1 and 2/3:

  • GT1 might have more laps to complete vs 2/3
  • GT2/3 always have tire wear off during qualifying
  • Heavy (GT1) vs. Light damage (GT2/3)
  • Exclusive to Manufacturer Cup: GT1 always uses Gr. 3 cars. GT2/3 has some rounds where they use Gr. 4 cars, instead.
 
Not sure why PD does it, but it's been a thing for some time. Here's some differences between GT1 and 2/3:

  • GT1 might have more laps to complete vs 2/3
  • GT2/3 always have tire wear off during qualifying
  • Heavy (GT1) vs. Light damage (GT2/3)
  • Exclusive to Manufacturer Cup: GT1 always uses Gr. 3 cars. GT2/3 has some rounds where they use Gr. 4 cars, instead.
Thx for the clarification. Will you still cover League 2/3 in your race guide? Assuming you still do those, of course
 
My trusty d12 came up with Lambo as well, which was my preferred option anyway. Need to test the Gr4 Huracan a bit more around Suzuka and Fuji but I think it's the way to go.
After testing at Fuji and Daytona it became clear that Lambo was not the way to go, for me at least.

Have signed up with Lexus instead. Was the fastest of my test cars in both Gr3 and Gr4, and I always drive better in a V8 FR.

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Totally forgot that the Toyota Cup starts today. Came back to me at 1.56pm and I made the 2pm race 😂

Didn't practice at all and it showed. Door #15, qualified on P14 and finished P10.

At the end of lap one I was at P7 because couple of people spun and crashed but made loads of mistakes and lost position after position. First sector was purple in 5 of the 8 laps but lost lots of time in Degner 1 & 2, Spoon and 130R.

Also there is so much more hitting, pushing and punting in the last races don't know what happened. Still SR S with full bar but feels like I'm in B rated lobbies. Really hope that it gets better.

Also picked my manu cars. No testing or anything. Just picked Alfa Romeo because I really enjoy driving the 4C. Don't know how they compare at the moment and will see what happens 😅

That wraps up a really aweful week in GT7 for me. Here's hoping that the next will be better 😂
 
I unfortunately didn't have time to do yesterday's Nations Cup round featuring the 917 Living Legend at Maggiore Reverse, but I'm definitely gonna catch these last two rounds - they genuinely look like fun! Especially since I don't feel like I did too well for that third round at Trial Mountain. Meanwhile, I'm always down for Daytona.

The Manufacturers Cup races look like they could be fun, too - though I'll likely be unable to do the round on May 11th since my best friend and I are hoping to take a day-trip to Boston, since we wanna check out that new F1 barcade!

EDIT: I'm also content being in silver range for the other three broader standings, and only being in gold range for my immediate county. I do feel like that first round at Le Mans went unusually well for me, so maybe the idea of netting a bit over 2m credits instead of 4m at the end is more realistic for me. Besides, it's not like I'm in a massive rush to spend my credits as soon as I get them. (Honestly, I'm just waiting for the 911 GT1 Street to show up in either white or silver.)
 
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One thing I will say about this imaginary track (only this reverse layout) -

Surely it hasn't been homologated by the imaginary FIA. That wall on the pit straight that sticks out slightly on the exit of the final turn could genuinely kill someone....


Kinda similar to the last turn in the Canada GP track. The wall of champions
 
I was mostly enjoying heavy damage and driving standards in the GT1 lobbies, but the past tense is there for a reason. I just can not understand how somebody could enjoy pushing others into the walls on straights and it happened twice to me lately - once in the Trial Mountain race and again today on Suzuka. Seriously annoying when you put some time into training for these races only for some muppet to ruin the fun for you. I could understand honest mistakes, missed braking markers, misjudgment of space available etc. but this is just intentional BS and should result in a vacation for such individual for X time or rounds.

I have included clips below including mine and offenders inputs so it is clear these were intentional. I do regret retaliation on the Trial Mountain one, but I saw red mist and knew there will be no penalty served by the game. I deserved that 4 s penalty for my own stupidity there. Thankfully at Suzuka the justice got served immediately.


 
I was mostly enjoying heavy damage and driving standards in the GT1 lobbies, but the past tense is there for a reason. I just can not understand how somebody could enjoy pushing others into the walls on straights and it happened twice to me lately - once in the Trial Mountain race and again today on Suzuka. Seriously annoying when you put some time into training for these races only for some muppet to ruin the fun for you. I could understand honest mistakes, missed braking markers, misjudgment of space available etc. but this is just intentional BS and should result in a vacation for such individual for X time or rounds.

I have included clips below including mine and offenders inputs so it is clear these were intentional. I do regret retaliation on the Trial Mountain one, but I saw red mist and knew there will be no penalty served by the game. I deserved that 4 s penalty for my own stupidity there. Thankfully at Suzuka the justice got served immediately.



I did this slot as a practice on my alt account, and I was right behind you guys (Creativemind100 aka Stealthy Racer) I was in absolute shock at what I was witnessing. There are a group of guys currently playing this game, who have absolutely no flexibility and will destroy your race at even the slightest grievance. Ironically, the same thing happend to me, but on the last lap when the.Portuguese guy decided to take me out at spoon and I went from 5th to 7th. I went on my main account after this race and finished 2nd with 295 points and a clean race bonus. This is the way....
 
Not gonna be able to. :( I only have time to do a lap guide for GT1.
That's a pity. I'm sure you considered your target audience. Although smaller and perhaps more capable of putting together a race, they may be a more motivated group to watch your video.
 
I was mostly enjoying heavy damage and driving standards in the GT1 lobbies, but the past tense is there for a reason. I just can not understand how somebody could enjoy pushing others into the walls on straights and it happened twice to me lately - once in the Trial Mountain race and again today on Suzuka. Seriously annoying when you put some time into training for these races only for some muppet to ruin the fun for you. I could understand honest mistakes, missed braking markers, misjudgment of space available etc. but this is just intentional BS and should result in a vacation for such individual for X time or rounds.

I have included clips below including mine and offenders inputs so it is clear these were intentional. I do regret retaliation on the Trial Mountain one, but I saw red mist and knew there will be no penalty served by the game. I deserved that 4 s penalty for my own stupidity there. Thankfully at Suzuka the justice got served immediately.



That's actually awful on both counts. I just assumed GT1 would be better than that in terms of attracting less clowns. Sorry you had that ruin your races 😢
 
I noticed that there is a difference in the description of how the final point totals for the qualifiers are calculated between the announcement page and the overview page.

The announcement reads:
At the end of Round 6, the scores from your three best rounds will be counted.
The overview page reads:
At the end of the Online Qualifiers, the final score will be tallied from the best one of every two rounds out of the total (with half numbers rounded up.)
I've only been able to do the first round of Nations. I missed 2-4. If I manage to do the final two rounds, will those both count to my final score (as the announcement would suggest), or will I get a zero for the middle pair because I missed them both (as the overview suggests)? Does anybody outside of PD know?
 
I was mostly enjoying heavy damage and driving standards in the GT1 lobbies, but the past tense is there for a reason. I just can not understand how somebody could enjoy pushing others into the walls on straights and it happened twice to me lately - once in the Trial Mountain race and again today on Suzuka. Seriously annoying when you put some time into training for these races only for some muppet to ruin the fun for you. I could understand honest mistakes, missed braking markers, misjudgment of space available etc. but this is just intentional BS and should result in a vacation for such individual for X time or rounds.

I have included clips below including mine and offenders inputs so it is clear these were intentional. I do regret retaliation on the Trial Mountain one, but I saw red mist and knew there will be no penalty served by the game. I deserved that 4 s penalty for my own stupidity there. Thankfully at Suzuka the justice got served immediately.



For the Suzuka one you do come across on them chasing the slipstream I'm guessing. So they do react to you. Should they? Probably not but you can see why they react.
 
What is the tire wear like at the Daytona round? Having suffered dead tires towards end of the race at the first round of the Gazoo cup, I am hoping that I don't run into dead tires thrice in the Daytona round. (I am a controller peasant who absolutely shreds tires)

Also, would there be a need to refuel a bit in the first pit stop to make sure that I can make it to the second pitstop without running out of fuel?
 
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For the Suzuka one you do come across on them chasing the slipstream I'm guessing. So they do react to you. Should they? Probably not but you can see why they react.
Sure, but that did no harm to anyone and I steered gently to the right after realising he is in there already after initial contact. After that he was way more interested in my side rather than the slipstream he has straight ahead of him. I disagree with this contact being a justification to what happened after.
 
What is the tire wear like at the Daytona round? Having suffered dead tires towards end of the race at the first round of the Gazoo cup, I am hoping that I don't run into dead tires thrice in the Daytona round. (I am a controller peasant who absolutely shreds tires)

Also, would there be a need to refuel a bit in the first pit stop to make sure that I can make it to the second pitstop without running out of fuel?
I honestly don't know yet, but there are two required pit stops so I wouldn't imagine going full reds will happen... even at 5x. So pit at lap seven and 14 or six and 13 I'd think would be fine.
 
I haven't done a single nations race this season (lack of time and interest on some of the combos), but I want to do Daytona.

Has anyone tested it? What cars and strategies are available?
 
I noticed that there is a difference in the description of how the final point totals for the qualifiers are calculated between the announcement page and the overview page.

The announcement reads:

The overview page reads:

I've only been able to do the first round of Nations. I missed 2-4. If I manage to do the final two rounds, will those both count to my final score (as the announcement would suggest), or will I get a zero for the middle pair because I missed them both (as the overview suggests)? Does anybody outside of PD know?
It'll score your best 3 rounds regardless of which they were.

If it worked the other way, we wouldn't have the issue where the very top drivers win the first three rounds and then don't enter the rest in order to tank everyone else's points.
 
If it worked the other way, we wouldn't have the issue where the very top drivers win the first three rounds and then don't enter the rest in order to tank everyone else's points.
I'd been wondering about this, how does it work in practice for the top guys? It seems a quite likely scenario we could have two or more top drivers with three top split wins each. Does it then literally come down to who got those wins in races with more points available for the win?
 
Sure, but that did no harm to anyone and I steered gently to the right after realising he is in there already after initial contact. After that he was way more interested in my side rather than the slipstream he has straight ahead of him. I disagree with this contact being a justification to what happened after.
I see this incident the same as you. You moved left, bumped him and moved back to the right after realizing a car was there. He should have stayed where he was, used the slipstream and you would then been forced to slow to make 130R cleanly. Instead, he ruined his own race.
 
I honestly don't know yet, but there are two required pit stops so I wouldn't imagine going full reds will happen... even at 5x. So pit at lap seven and 14 or six and 13 I'd think would be fine.
I tried a full run last night in the 787B and the rear right just about holds on for 11-12 laps with BB -5.

I've never been particularly confident running in ultra slipstream trains, so I wanted to see how early I could potentially duck out of the group and start running in clean air. I know losing slipstream could hurt a lot, but hoping that being able to just get my head down and churn out laps uninterrupted for a while could compensate somewhat.
 
I tried a full run last night in the 787B and the rear right just about holds on for 11-12 laps with BB -5.

I've never been particularly confident running in ultra slipstream trains, so I wanted to see how early I could potentially duck out of the group and start running in clean air. I know losing slipstream could hurt a lot, but hoping that being able to just get my head down and churn out laps uninterrupted for a while could compensate somewhat.
So are you think of not taking tires on one of the stops and taking them on the others?

I'd think taking the extra five seconds to get new rubber both required stops would make itself up in the coming laps, but I don't know that for sure. You'd need about .750" per lap to break even.

It's an interesting think. If you're stuck in traffic, then you could pit on lap one or two to get out of the traffic, not get tires, then again on lap 11-12 for tires. Or you could split it up in ~thirds for new tires. Also, what if it's lap three and you get a .500" pen coming out of the bus-stop? Much less painful to just pit that lap than carry on. Reminds me of the Daily C we had a while back with the Ford GT and Peugeot VGT where there was a stop required. I remember getting pens coming out of the bus stop and it didn't matter what else was going on or what lap it was, I went in on that lap.

Hmmmmm. On the surface this one seems pretty straight forward but maybe not so much.
 
Tires might be more important at Daytona than you think, especially if you think you'll be in dirty air most of the race.

My thought is peaky, high powered MR, most corners are low speed digs into straights. Traction will be everything.
 
Gonna have to hit the 4pm EDT slot this Wednesday, between getting off work at 3:30pm and needing time to head down the highway to my weekly acting class. Did some free practice today, too - got a time that was on the lower end of 1:32. Very interesting that we're given a whole ten minutes for qualifying, but I'm much more interested in the mandatory pit-stops.
 
I tried a full run last night in the 787B and the rear right just about holds on for 11-12 laps with BB -5.

I've never been particularly confident running in ultra slipstream trains, so I wanted to see how early I could potentially duck out of the group and start running in clean air. I know losing slipstream could hurt a lot, but hoping that being able to just get my head down and churn out laps uninterrupted for a while could compensate somewhat.
I've never seen any race in high downforce cars where slipstream is that big of an advantage. Dirty air easily negates this, and heavy damage would make me want to avoid pack racing as much as possible.
So are you think of not taking tires on one of the stops and taking them on the others?

I'd think taking the extra five seconds to get new rubber both required stops would make itself up in the coming laps, but I don't know that for sure. You'd need about .750" per lap to break even.

It's an interesting think. If you're stuck in traffic, then you could pit on lap one or two to get out of the traffic, not get tires, then again on lap 11-12 for tires. Or you could split it up in ~thirds for new tires. Also, what if it's lap three and you get a .500" pen coming out of the bus-stop? Much less painful to just pit that lap than carry on. Reminds me of the Daily C we had a while back with the Ford GT and Peugeot VGT where there was a stop required. I remember getting pens coming out of the bus stop and it didn't matter what else was going on or what lap it was, I went in on that lap.

Hmmmmm. On the surface this one seems pretty straight forward but maybe not so much.
Fuel in the 787B last for about 17 laps (might be able to get 18 if you shift JUST as you hit redline instead of revving it to oblivion), and keep in mind carrying a lot of fuel for longer weighs your car down...
Tires might be more important at Daytona than you think, especially if you think you'll be in dirty air most of the race.

My thought is peaky, high powered MR, most corners are low speed digs into straights. Traction will be everything.
I tested on Saturday, and Lap 12 is a little sketchy if you hit the throttle like the tires were new, but it's nothing unmanageable (I use TCS for Group C cars though).
 
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