Gran Turismo World Series (Manufacturers Cup Exhibition Season: Feb 5 - Feb 15)

[Fezzik]

Shortlist if we get another manufacturers season after the August showdown. Limited to ones I haven't raced with yet, not in the finals and not many entries (I like the underappreciated underdogs):

Alfa, Audi, Dodge, Hyundai, Lexus, Mitsubishi, Peugeot, Volkswagen

Leaning towards Alfa & Dodge at the moment.

 

[tankuroded]

Finalized Manufacturers live roster (pending age-related substitutions) - there's also the question whether Kodaka be at Amsterdam since he had to skip Salzburg last year due to exams in the July/August timeframe.

Per-league Top 3 - congratulations @GOTMAXPOWER you made it to a GT.com article!

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Finalized Manufacturers live roster (pending age-related substitutions) - there's also the question whether Kodaka be at Amsterdam since he had to skip Salzburg last year due to exams in the July/August timeframe.

Per-league Top 3 - congratulations @GOTMAXPOWER you made it to a GT.com article!

Haha, PD normally only look at me when they're banning track limits 😂

 

[Talon16]

Shortlist if we get another manufacturers season after the August showdown. Limited to ones I haven't raced with yet, not in the finals and not many entries (I like the underappreciated underdogs):

Alfa, Audi, Dodge, Hyundai, Lexus, Mitsubishi, Peugeot, Volkswagen

Leaning towards Alfa & Dodge at the moment.

In a similar boat. Already thinking about the next Manu. Likely a waste of time as we don't know the tracks, stipulations, or whether or not there will be another physics and/or BoP update before then. But, it's still fun to think about.

I am also trying to pick a Manu I've not before. Short list is: Dodge, Genesis, Jag, or Porsche.

 

[Pennyb12000]

Quick question about the Manu Ch. If you pick a manufacturer and you already own the gp 3 and 4 cars in your garage, can you use your own car rather than the one provided for you? Only asking this as, if I have this right, you have to equip the cars provided to you with all the variations in tyres. If I already have the car plus tyre selection why use the provided one?
Seems a waste of credits at the end of each season when the car goes back?

 

[Zorz]

Quick question about the Manu Ch. If you pick a manufacturer and you already own the gp 3 and 4 cars in your garage, can you use your own car rather than the one provided for you? Only asking this as, if I have this right, you have to equip the cars provided to you with all the variations in tyres. If I already have the car plus tyre selection why use the provided one?
Seems a waste of credits at the end of each season when the car goes back?

Yep. No need to use the loan cars at all if you actually own them. It goes beyond that as well; you can use models other than the loan cars if the manufacturer has more than one Gr.4/Gr.3.

 

[MCL1974]

Quick question about the Manu Ch. If you pick a manufacturer and you already own the gp 3 and 4 cars in your garage, can you use your own car rather than the one provided for you? Only asking this as, if I have this right, you have to equip the cars provided to you with all the variations in tyres. If I already have the car plus tyre selection why use the provided one?
Seems a waste of credits at the end of each season when the car goes back?

You can use any gr 3 and gr 4 car of the chosen manufacurer you have in your garage.

Edit: like on track Zorz was faster then me.....

 

[Zorz]

Edit: like on track Zorz was faster then me.....

I think that's the fastest I've been doing anything since last Sunday since I'm currently fighting off a chest infection and feel pretty rough.

 

[MCL1974]

I think that's the fastest I've been doing anything since last Sunday since I'm currently fighting off a chest infection and feel pretty rough.

Sorry to hear that, wish you a FAST recovery.....

 

[coyb20]

Anyone getting an updated driver list? Mines showing the 2022 World Finals and I kind of need it for my social media asap?

 

[tankuroded]

(not sure where to put this)

 

[tankuroded]

GT social media version of that tweet:


Also no word if Inostroza will miss the Showdown (and if yes, a sub will be named or not). If he gets subbed, his slot would go to (subject to eligiblity and acceptance):

• Manufacturer (Porsche): Hyprix_GREASY (GREASYSAMSQUANCH)
• Nations (Chile): L. Ruffini (KRC_LucioR)

 

[tankuroded]

More bad news from competitors: Daniel Solis' apartment got robbed.

 

[tankuroded]

Angel Inostroza has pulled out of the GTWS Showdown.


In a lighter note, PS Germany is running a "win free tickets" promo:

 

[tankuroded]

Finalized Manufacturers roster:


Looks like Porsche might have to double-stint like Subaru and Mazda at Showdown did last year.

 

[tankuroded]

Follow-up (also posted to GT website):


Beauvois (who raised the issue and got replied by PD) response:

 

[Nakano219]

Race structure for the Showdown is out: https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gt7/events/gtws2023/showdown/race_structure/#top

Manufacturers is Suzuka Gr.3
Nations has a qualifying at Grand Valley in the Ferrari VGT, a qualifying race at a mystery combination, and then the race is Maggiore in the X2019.

 

[Fezzik]

They should just dump the Gr4s (as they rarely use them for finals/showcases) and make it an all Gr3 competition.

 

[IngRobNy]

Who to predict for the winner of Manufactures Cup and Nations Cup? What is the best bet?

 

[Fezzik]

Who to predict for the winner of Manufactures Cup and Nations Cup? What is the best bet?

Toyota and Subaru are good bets for the first.

 

[PuffelPizza]

Call me crazy, but I think Karachi would be a good venue for a future World Series event...

 

[Hasnain282]

a qualifying race at a mystery combination

Ambulance race!

 

[IngRobNy]

Toyota and Subaru are good bets for the first.

I went with Toyota and Spain, haven't been able to guess right in the past, so we have to see how this goes.

 

[bduddy]

Race structure for the Showdown is out: https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gt7/events/gtws2023/showdown/race_structure/#top

Manufacturers is Suzuka Gr.3
Nations has a qualifying at Grand Valley in the Ferrari VGT, a qualifying race at a mystery combination, and then the race is Maggiore in the X2019.

Interestingly, the Manufacturers final race has Hard and Medium tires both as required, but not Soft. It also states that dynamic weather will be on. Will the teams have to figure out how to fit 2 mandatory dry tires around rain? That could get "interesting"... It also, interestingly, has "Custom" slipstream (surely not the nonexistent slipstream used in qualifying sessions?) and unannounced multipliers.
The Nations finals has S/M/H mandatory as normal with conditions specified as "Fine". Although it also has the Custom slipstream. Maybe they're testing some changes to dirty air or something?

Also, all of the competitors now have profiles here https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gt7/events/gtws2023/showdown/competitors/, including ratings out of 100...

 

[Nakano219]

Interestingly, the Manufacturers final race has Hard and Medium tires both as required, but not Soft. It also states that dynamic weather will be on. Will the teams have to figure out how to fit 2 mandatory dry tires around rain? That could get "interesting"... It also, interestingly, has "Custom" slipstream (surely not the nonexistent slipstream used in qualifying sessions?) and unannounced multipliers.
The Nations finals has S/M/H mandatory as normal with conditions specified as "Fine". Although it also has the Custom slipstream. Maybe they're testing some changes to dirty air or something?

Also, all of the competitors now have profiles here https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gt7/events/gtws2023/showdown/competitors/, including ratings out of 100...

Reading that competitor list, or more specifically all the 2000-and-later birth dates on it, has suddenly made me feel quite old!

 

[symaski62]

OMG ! track new ????

Épreuve des Gran Turismo World Series 2023 - Structure de la course

Gran Turismo Official Website

www.gran-turismo.com

 

[Talon16]

OMG ! track new ????

Épreuve des Gran Turismo World Series 2023 - Structure de la course

Gran Turismo Official Website

www.gran-turismo.com

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Nations race one is the Ferrari VGT at GV?! That sounds like a great combo

 

[tankuroded]

Having an updated Gr.3 roster is a commond demand of many (and for their part, PD is doing it slowly but surely, starting from Ford GT GTE and R8 LMS Evo at launch, followed by BRZ GT300, GT-R GT3 '18, and most recently the AMG GT3 Evo). For reference, here's the statistics of the model years of each of the qualified manufacturers, ordered from the latest:

'22 Genesis X GR3
'21 Subaru BRZ GT300
'20 Mercedes-AMG GT3 Evo
'20 Mazda RX-Vision GT3 Concept
'18 Toyota GR Supra Racing Concept
'18 Nissan GT-R NISMO GT3
'17 Porsche 911 RSR (991)
'16 Renault Sport R.S.01 GT3
'16 Honda NSX Gr.3*
'16 BMW M6 GT3
'15 McLaren 650S GT3
'15 Lamborghini Huracan GT3

With four manufacturers that missed the cutline/bumped out (Ferrari) also shown for reference:
'17 Lexus RC F GT3
'17 Peugeot RCZ Gr.3**
'16 Alfa Romeo 4C Gr.3*
'13 Ferrari 458 Italia GT3

McLaren and Lamborghini ties for running the oldest equipment on the grid; if Ferrari had qualified, the two would not have hold that record on race day. (And Nissan actually held on their 2013 equipment in the entirety of their GT Sport life, plus last year's Showdown and tape-delay races!)

Additionally, there's six-real life GT3 cars on the grid (including the R.S.01, which is in real life restricted to races allowing unhomologated cars), joined by a GTE car (991 RSR), JAF GT300 car (BRZ), two manufacturer-designed design studies designed to cater to existing regulations (GR Supra RC and RX-Vision GT3 Concept), and two fantasy Gr.3 cars (Genesis X GR3 and NSX Gr.3).

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*Year determined by the debut at the GT Sport Copper Box launch event.
**Year determined by first appearance in pre-release GT Sport content. (Peugeot used the Peugeot VGT Gr.3 at Copper Box.)

 

[PuffelPizza]

AFAIK this is the first time Renault competes as Renault instead of Renault Sport.

 

[Nathan88]

AFAIK this is the first time Renault competes as Renault instead of Renault Sport.

I wonder if we'll see a complete switch to Alpine somwhere down the line.