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is DR B the cutoff for GT2? i'm right at the top of DR C and kind of upset i didn't get any DR credit for my P1 in the SSRX race.
Gran Turismo World Series (Nations Cup Exhibition Season: Jan 22 - Feb 1)
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I did a full race distance in Custom Race in the Corvette, and it felt completely fine on a dead right rear tire that had done the entire 30-lap distance and was 100% red by the end. No idea how it'll handle bump drafting in that state, but I still don't think it'll make much of a difference. Haven't tried the NSX, but I wouldn't be surprised if it tried to kill you in the same conditions...
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I was able to get similar times in the NSX and the Toyota but while I never once spun out in the Toyota, the NSX was a nightmare when making uneven contact with the bottom of the incline.
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Yes, but that's not how it works - it's not a limiting factor on your DR - and in any case the SSRX race was set to not affect DR/SR.
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Some thoughts from the perspective of a GT2 driver...
On mixing Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars: Like @Talon16 said, I thought this made the selection more interesting. You couldn't just go and pick the one meta car. You had to weigh the merits of both the Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars from each manufacturer and decide which fit best. Personally, I'd love it if they expanded the series to include the other categories of cars, too, with Gr.1, Gr.2, and even Gr.B races. Not at all practical because so few manufacturers have cars in every class, but one can dream...
On race length: I found it frustrating and annoying that the longer races were not available to us lower-rated drivers, especially when so many of the GT2/3 variants ended up being turned into no-stop sprints without any pit strategy. I would definitely give those a try if I could. I'd much rather PD put together a separate series of endurance races that are open to drivers at all levels instead of restricting it to A/A+ drivers.
On tuning: I like the idea of being able to tune the cars, especially in GTWS races, where you have some advance notice of what's coming and can spend some time preparing for it. BUT... I feel like the game isn't quite ready to support it. There need to be better tools for inspecting other drivers' tunes and publishing them for others to use (like we have for liveries). That said, I was very happy that I could make adjustments to my cars for the Manu Cup races, since it helped me squeeze a few tenths off my lap time on every track.
On mixing Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars: Like @Talon16 said, I thought this made the selection more interesting. You couldn't just go and pick the one meta car. You had to weigh the merits of both the Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars from each manufacturer and decide which fit best. Personally, I'd love it if they expanded the series to include the other categories of cars, too, with Gr.1, Gr.2, and even Gr.B races. Not at all practical because so few manufacturers have cars in every class, but one can dream...
On race length: I found it frustrating and annoying that the longer races were not available to us lower-rated drivers, especially when so many of the GT2/3 variants ended up being turned into no-stop sprints without any pit strategy. I would definitely give those a try if I could. I'd much rather PD put together a separate series of endurance races that are open to drivers at all levels instead of restricting it to A/A+ drivers.
On tuning: I like the idea of being able to tune the cars, especially in GTWS races, where you have some advance notice of what's coming and can spend some time preparing for it. BUT... I feel like the game isn't quite ready to support it. There need to be better tools for inspecting other drivers' tunes and publishing them for others to use (like we have for liveries). That said, I was very happy that I could make adjustments to my cars for the Manu Cup races, since it helped me squeeze a few tenths off my lap time on every track.
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Sorry if I wasn't clear, I understand that the SSRX race didn't affect DR and knew before the race. I'm saying that if it affect DR did I'd probably be DR B now because I was at the very top edge of DR C and got P1 in the race in a higher point lobby for me.
My other question was unrelated and is basically, if I am DR B at the start of the next championship series is that how I start in GT2 is what I am unsure of. This was my first series and started in GT3.
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Then yes.
If you are at DR C or below when you first enter any GTWS season you will be placed in GT3 League. If you are DR B when you first enter any GTWS season you will be placed in GT2 League. If you are DR A or above when you first enter any GTWS season you will be placed in GT1 League.
You can't switch leagues during a season once you've entered, although you could be in two different leagues for Nations and Manufacturers if your DR changes to a different level after you've entered one but before you've entered the other.
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Does anyone have a link to view our final standings available? I don't like how quickly it's taken down from the game - didn't get a chance to have a look!
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- The failed experiment entitled “California”.
Only got 2 rounds in on my main, although I got the first 3 rounds in on both my Alts. Made A+ on the main right before the second round which explains the big jump in points. Was disappointed I wasn’t able to also do the NBG round on my main to see how I would have faired in a fast lobby, but oh well.
Overall, I think the biggest winners of this season were the longer races, heavy damage, and limited tuning. Heck, even the multipliers were halfway decent. I thoroughly enjoyed the hell out of testing for the races and developing my prospective strategies depending on how the race unfolded.
The losers for this season IMO was no Group 4 races in GT1, scripted weather, and the sometimes-glitched damage repair system.
I think PD needs to find a way to where an equal amount of Gr.3 and GR.4 races count towards your final score. In the official season, several top players went with Ferrari just for the Group 4 car (neglecting to do ANY group 3 races). And then this season, you saw what felt like more Porsche’s than usual, BECAUSE there weren’t any group 4 races in GT1. The BOP in both categories is fine for the most part (with a few obvious outliers of course), we just need a better variety in events/multipliers that will cater to different cars.
As far as limited tuning…I liked it. But like I’ve said in nausea, PD would be smart to not make tuning anymore involved than damper/anti roll bar adjustments. Anymore than that, and you’ll just drive people away.
PD would also be smart to allow people to copy/paste tunes from the leaderboards. That way everyone has a tune to “work off of” if they desire. Sure, you would probably get some fast guys that would choose not to set FP lap times in order to hide their tunes, but you’ll get some real fast guys that still would.
I think PD has knocked it out of the park with these last 2 seasons. Hopefully tuning doesn’t get anymore involved. But if it does, I’ll just pick whatever Manu Kie chooses, and let him figure out the tuning for me 😎
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I was in GT2 but the scores and blank and saying I'm in GT1. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Any idea?
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fix your country setting up top on the page, I was defaulted to the UK so it was showing me europe stats (which are zero for me)
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You can still see them in game. You just need to click on "Archive" in Sport mode.
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Agree with pretty much everything you said here.I am torn, as typically I don't like Gr4 cars; I think, in general, they are lame and would much rather virtually any combo in Gr3 than Gr4. That being said, the Gr4 cars were pretty fun around Grand Valley (I think having the RS tires available helped), but, again, the Gr3 cars are more fun so maybe it's a moot point.
The addition of Gr4 races makes picking the Manus a little more strategic and interesting. The BoP in Gr4 needs an updates as Porsche, for example, has a great Gr3 car and a horrible Gr4 so many either won't pick Porsche or will just skip the Gr4 races anyway. Generally I still don't like the Gr4s and am perfectly fine not doing those races.
I am torn on race length because I do like the longer races, but the whole thing from start to finish (quali + race) can often take 90 mins (or more in the case of Nord) which is a lot to ask of a casual on a Saturday night (this would be less of a concern if there WERE MORE GT1 SLOTS PD!!!!!!!!!!).
I still think GT1 should be A and A+ up to 75k DR (half way thru A+), and a separate category needs to be added, GTX, for 75k+DR people. This is where the that category would come into play as those people would legit be trying to qualify for the WS and would make the time regardless of when the races were and how long they were.
So there are definitely arguments on both sides and even I find myself debating with myself.
What I feel there is no debate on is NO TUNING! Especially for GTWS races! Is that guy really faster than me or did he spend 27.823423 hours I don't have messing with suspension settings to get better turn-in and tire wear? We will never know.
Has heavy damage in GT1 been a success?
Now that we've had a full season of heavy damage I was wondering how people were feeling about this being a thing in GT1 races. There was a lot of speculation when this was announced that this could either ruin the racing or help clean things up. Personally I've not been negatively affected by...www.gtplanet.net
I don't particularly like gr.4 (i.e., I'm bad with them!).
I love the longer race length, but wish I had a saturday morning option. And thank goodness, no wednesday races this round. It is my 'busy' day and an hour+ race isn't going to happen for me on those days. Or at least, I won't be at my best.
Agree that there should be a GTX league. As a low A driver, I am never in direct competition with any of the best, although I am ranked in the same pool as them, and it looks horrible, but that's only cosmetic. I can live with that to enjoy the longer format.
I completely ignore the tuning, I just don't want to tinker much, and hope that I can jump in and be competitive in a bop car.
So everything kind of lined up for my personal tastes in this round of manu, my first go-around in the GT1 league.
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I was shocked to see NSX at the top the other day, but I found it's a custom BOP so I doubt they will allow tuning etc...if they is tuning you should be able to edit it in the time trial.
This is why I'm not a huge fan of Gr4s. The imbalance between Gr3 and Gr4 just makes picking a manufacturer difficult. I can spend more time testing different manufacturers in the week before round 1 then I do racing in the GTWS.
Also the BOP in Gr4 especially in Daily races has been poor. Last few months it's either been Ferrari or 650s, and now Mazda
Can't remember the last time I entered a Gr4 race.
I don't mind tuning. The suspension stuff is ok, but the aero side of it just totally destroyed that Le Man's race in my opinion. A race I was looking forward to, actually turned out to be one of the worst.
The suspension changes I find doesn't really gain you much time, but having a car that handles the way you want it to handle will make faster.
The issue with timing is...how many hours do you want to spend messing about with game that's been designed as a pick and play?
I do alot of ACC racing now, and that is tinkering around with setups and I do enjoy it, but the game has been built around that philosophy or tune and race.
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Couldn't agree more. That race was brutal for tuning, doubly so because of the uncertainty around weather. Too much work to get two cars ready for race day: one for sun and another for rain.
Speaking of weather, what did everybody think about how the weather was handled? The rain was a surprise at Suzuka and Nurburgring. And the sun surprised many of us a Sarthe. Part of me liked the surprises, but another part wishes there had been some earlier indications about what to expect. I kind of wish that PD would include a 'probability of precipitation' forecast in the race descriptions so you have some idea what to prepare for.
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The perfect scenario to eliminate the confusion of tuning altogether in GT7, would be for PD to do what ACC does and offer either a safe, or aggressive tune for each car.
Personally I’m ok with manufacturers having 2 “decent” cars, or one really good and one really bad. Just as long as it evens out.
As for GR.4 and BOP. Yeah…in the daily’s it’s usually either the Ferrari, New Mazda or maybe another car in the mix. But the same could be said for any GR.3 daily race too. Hopefully PD got the data they needed from this “limited tuning” season as well as these recent daily’s, to finally enact that Low-Medium-High speed BOP that has remained inactive. That in itself could be the equalizer for cars in daily’s, and in the manufacturers cup
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Suzuka and Nurburgring I think wasn’t much of a surprise as you could potentially guess with the tyre choices. The Le Mans race was a surprise though, I was pretty sure they would have weather.
As for the fixed weather I thought it was perfect. The slow moving weather just made it easier to judge to your strategies. That fast dynamic stuff is just pot luck as to whether you got lucky or not.
Yeah a safe and aggressive presets base would be handy.
I do think Gr3 has a little more variety in cars, but yeah i can see what you’re saying. Hopefully we get we a new BOP for Gr4, and a few minor tweaks in Gr3 in the December or January update. Knowing PD we end up with a whole brand car physics and out of balanced BOP
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The problem with Gr.4's BoP will always be all of the different drivetrains in it. I don't think a setting (or even a combination of 3, if they remember they have multiple BoPs) exists that will make FFs, FRs and 4WDs equal at both a twisty course with elevation like Alsace and a flat power circuit like Monza, and everything in between. Gr.1 has a similar in-built problem with balancing the various hybrids in it.
It doesn't help when they add something OP like the new Mazda though, of course!
Gr.3, by contrast, other than the cars that feel like they are deliberately BoP'd to be bad (the Silhouette, the Atenza, the Peugeot/VW VGTs) just needs tweaking and refining rather than throwing out whole cloth.
It doesn't help when they add something OP like the new Mazda though, of course!
Gr.3, by contrast, other than the cars that feel like they are deliberately BoP'd to be bad (the Silhouette, the Atenza, the Peugeot/VW VGTs) just needs tweaking and refining rather than throwing out whole cloth.
The key to dealing with the "surprise" was, to watch an Asia/Oceania stream. Which does take away a lot from the unpredictability, and the fun, unless you happen to live in that area and race in slot 1 (or handicap yourself against everyone else...).
I do wish they could do something about that in future seasons. Unfortunately the only way it seems we can get that kind of weather is for it to be handcrafted, the "standard" weather system is just too fast. Hopefully they can address that one way or another in an update? Or just make different weather for each slot, but that takes time...
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Welp, guess it's time to start practicing holding a line at Daytona using a controller. My cats somehow knocked over my Playseat Challenge, and I think the power plug for the wheel scraped against my desk or something, because it yanked the wires straight out of the plug. Wheel, unusable. I guess this isn't the worst race for it at least...
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Race day is almost here. Best of luck all! May the slipstream be ever in your favour.
FWIW, I'm still planning to go with the GT500 Supra, unless some other meta reveals itself to be a better choice once some races have been done.
Think I'll run the race in chase cam view, too. I did that at the SSRX race and it seemed to help get a better view of what is going on ahead and the cars around me.
FWIW, I'm still planning to go with the GT500 Supra, unless some other meta reveals itself to be a better choice once some races have been done.
Think I'll run the race in chase cam view, too. I did that at the SSRX race and it seemed to help get a better view of what is going on ahead and the cars around me.
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I’m torn between the green red and white car and the white red and green car.
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