GT.R Gr.4

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Hey,

is the GT.R Gr.4 really the best car? or is it the easy handling?
Because it looks that this car always hit the best times?

First I was thinking it depends on the course, but looks like it´s not....

What you think?
 
Hey,

is the GT.R Gr.4 really the best car? or is it the easy handling?
Because it looks that this car always hit the best times?

First I was thinking it depends on the course, but looks like it´s not....

What you think?

Nope, I beat plenty of them with the Viper during the open beta, Unless PD have changed things significantly since then.
 
Or maybe also, it is the best car and for this reason is used by everybody, even those people don't know how to drive and then you still get to beat them easily.
Personally, I think that is better to stick to a single car (4C in my case) and practice just with that, trying also to get the best setup out of it. If unbalances are there, soon or later PD will (hopefully) revisit the BoP modification on some cars.
 
Nope, I beat plenty of them with the Viper during the open beta, Unless PD have changed things significantly since then.

I haven't tried every car, but I do believe the Viper is top tier in Group 4. Have been racing it and it keeps pace well.
 
The GTR can accelerate in corners with no possibility of it to spin out. That is why it is super fast. I personally do not like this car since it exists. For sure it is a godo car. But for me it is to heavy and made for those who want big HP numbers and no skill to drive the car. And now it is the same in the game lol. I havent met a single GTR in Switzerland below 650HP. Everybody tunes it.
In my eyes it is not a balanced car at the moment. It drives like on rails. Speed and cornerspeed is i think ok or equal to other cars, but since it can accelerate with 100% throttle open out of every Corner it is faster than the rest.
 
I feel it is, unfortunately. The best qualifying time I've been able to get so far in my Viper for this week's Gr.4 BoP race on Dragon Tail is a 1:49.5. Most of the races I did yesterday I started off and finished in P3 or P4 because the equally skilled and consistent GT-R drivers were running mostly 1:48's and one even ran a 1:47.
 
I haven't liked the GR-R - road or race car - in any game it has featured in. Sounds too much like a vacuum cleaner (even the real cars - going by Youtube videos - not just past Gran Turismo versions :)).
 
I feel it is, unfortunately. The best qualifying time I've been able to get so far in my Viper for this week's Gr.4 BoP race on Dragon Tail is a 1:49.5. Most of the races I did yesterday I started off and finished in P3 or P4 because the equally skilled and consistent GT-R drivers were running mostly 1:48's and one even ran a 1:47.

I found a good setup here (by Minkihl) and it's just so easy to be consistent with it after some practice. 1.47.0 is my best, but I can do 1.47.4 to 1.47.8 very consistently. And that's not really due to my skill level, to be honest.
 
I'll have to look around for one for the Viper then. Especially since this week's BoP has open tuning. If I can at least get into the 1:48's consistently then I'd be in much better shape to take on these Nissan's.
 
I'll have to look around for one for the Viper then. Especially since this week's BoP has open tuning. If I can at least get into the 1:48's consistently then I'd be in much better shape to take on these Nissan's.

I haven't tried the Viper yet. The GTR is just too damn predictable to drive, and I if I can get consistent lap times with it, anyone can.
 
I'm driving the Atenza most of the time and I can easily compete with the GTRs and it is good to drive too.
You just need to keep the speed in the corners.

And I already beat about 3-4 GTRs and ended up first in the Gr.4 races.

So the GTR is very easy to drive and that is the main reason why there are so many of them. I think people won't try other cars because of this.
 
I don't know if the GT-R is the best car, but it's probably the easiest car to drive. So far it's the only car I can drive with TCS off and still be competitive.

Yesterday, I swapped my 458 for the GT-R, and I beat my previous best time (1:51.1) and did a 1:49.5. That was good enough to get me pole, fastest lap and the win in two races back-to-back. Also jumped from DR: D to 50% DR: C

Granted, I also improved my lines and cornering, but still... that car is a track beast.
 
Fair enough. I just don't like GT-R's in general. My 1:49.5 only got me pole once last night. I'm also in the B class now though and running the stock setup on my Viper. I've been wanting to try the Mazda 6 (Atenza), so maybe I'll give that a shot. I tried the Huracan and 458 and quickly realized I do not like the turn-in and oversteer while entering and exiting corners that the MR platforms seem to have.
 
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Disappointingly I do think the GT-R is so easy to drive flat out, particularly at Gr.4 level, that most of us need to be driving one to stand a chance. I think this is doubly true for those of us using Dual Shocks rather than wheels. I realise there are a few uber talented drivers out there with loads of time on their hands who can get other cars to perform at this level, but I imagine that 90% of us cannot get close to our GT-R times in anything else.

I do enjoy driving some of my other Gr.4 cars like the Alfa 4C and the Mcclaren, but when I need to get a win under my belt, I have to pick the GT-R if I am to stand a chance.

I hope that further updates may level the playing field a bit.
 
4wd seems to be a key advantage that hasn't been sufficiently neutered by BoP. The GTR has been dominating as it seems overall the easiest to drive, but I've been taking it to them in the Atenza which is also 4wd. You don't get that snap oversteer, and you can then change the car's balance to be very pointy with little punishment.

They need horsepower taking away and weight added, even more so than now.
 
I don't know if the GT-R is the best car, but it's probably the easiest car to drive. So far it's the only car I can drive with TCS off and still be competitive.

Yup, I also noticed that the GT-R is easy to drive with TCS turned off. With the Cayman I can control it easily with TCS 2, but for most other cars I need to stick to the default of 3.
 
I think any of the Gr4 cars can be about the same the big difference is with the GTR you can run stock set up and be competitive. It's out-of-the-box good, whereas the other cars need adjustments to make them handle smoothly. I really like the GTR for this reason, I don't have the time to run time trials and tune the cars accordingly. All I did to the GTR is adjust the rear toe and down-force levels. Game on, and I'm ok with that.
 
I won my gr4 race by 6 seconds with my Jag (which almost no one uses) and my gr3 race by 15 seconds using the Porsche. Both against a field of GTRs. (I don't say this to brag I am still in DR-D since I don't get to play as much as I'd like). It is a good car but it's far from unbeatable. It may be worth some time at the top of the leaderboard, but everyone using it in every class is a bit of groupthink.
 
I won my gr4 race by 6 seconds with my Jag (which almost no one uses) and my gr3 race by 15 seconds using the Porsche. Both against a field of GTRs. (I don't say this to brag I am still in DR-D since I don't get to play as much as I'd like). It is a good car but it's far from unbeatable. It may be worth some time at the top of the leaderboard, but everyone using it in every class is a bit of groupthink.

In Gr3 the GTR has no advantage, all cars are RWD. And in Gr4, the GTR and other 4wd cars do have an advantage, but obviously it is also down to the skill of the driver. The proliferation of GTRs in the top echelons in all the Gr4 events so far isn't just down to all the good drivers choosing them, they and the other 4wd cars are easier to drive and faster in slow corners than the competition.
 
In Gr3 the GTR has no advantage, all cars are RWD. And in Gr4, the GTR and other 4wd cars do have an advantage, but obviously it is also down to the skill of the driver. The proliferation of GTRs in the top echelons in all the Gr4 events so far isn't just down to all the good drivers choosing them, they and the other 4wd cars are easier to drive and faster in slow corners than the competition.

I get what you're saying, I just think that the advantages gained by picking the "best" car can be outweighed by learning to drive the car you like in the way it likes to be driven, and in lower DR classes nobody is getting 100% out of any car so why not drive what you like? I just think its more fun that way. I picked the Jag because it's sexy and I like them, and I'm admittedly biased against GTRs because I'm just not a fan. I'm not saying it's not the fastest in the upper DR classes and I'm not saying that PD doesn't need to do some balancing, I'm just saying that everyone using it across the board is unnecessary.
 
I get what you're saying, I just think that the advantages gained by picking the "best" car can be outweighed by learning to drive the car you like in the way it likes to be driven, and in lower DR classes nobody is getting 100% out of any car so why not drive what you like? I just think its more fun that way. I picked the Jag because it's sexy and I like them, and I'm admittedly biased against GTRs because I'm just not a fan. I'm not saying it's not the fastest in the upper DR classes and I'm not saying that PD doesn't need to do some balancing, I'm just saying that everyone using it across the board is unnecessary.
I agree with you on the GTR, never been a fan really so have tried to use anything else to beat it. In the lower DR rankings yes you're right, a well driven car will win regardless, but I'm up in A, and in these races 4wd at least is a necessity to have a chance of winning (most of my races yesterday were 80% GTR-filled). I'm signed up with Jaguar for the manufacturer cup and I will work on the Gr3 and 4 F-Types to get them setup for those races, but in the meantime I've switched to the Mazda for Gr4 and have had some success in the McLaren in Gr3. I am really hoping that there are some significant BoP shifts made before the championships start, to neutralise the advantage of 4wd in Gr4, and to some extent mid-engined cars in Gr3 (I can't say there's anything specific to this, but I've noticed that front-engined cars do not have the same ease of pace) seem to have in the game.
 
Sounds like we are on the same page. 👍

I bought the Jag for gr4 because it's sexy, the porcshe for gr3 because I'm pumped to have Porsche in the game, and I'm saving up for a 458 because I want to put a Valentino Rossi-themed livery on it. The point being I employ a strictly non-technical decision making process. Haha
 
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