jubeiiiii246
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First of all GT6 had 1,300 cars no dlc nothing at all except free updates with new cars ex (bmw m4) now your telling ME that gt sport should have PAID dlc when they only have 137 cars? Get out of here.
GT Sport DLC
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- Lma_robot
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Of course, an appealing car will be more likely to be purchased. However, you'll also have to realize that there are already appealing cars in the game.
I also don't understand the issue with introducing a fast vehicle. Why do they have to be slower than every other car? If it does happen, it's not often that you are a public player that can utilize it like those at the top of leaderboards. There's always going to a leaderboard car no matter what, it shouldn't be a reason to try to limit said cars.
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True, but having paid DLC possibly affects the content of the game to some degree in a similar manner that having microtransactions possibly affects its economy.
They don't really have to be slower than every other car, but it affects the game for those not buying particular DLC. The leaderboard car then becomes inaccessible to them. Similarly with online races.
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- Johnnypenso
Different game, different console. I'm not telling you that GTSport should have anything. The game will be released with 137 cars that are brand new to the series in terms of how they were crafted according to Kaz. Super premiums I believe they are called. If you want more cars than that in the game, you might have to pay for them. If you get them all for free that's great, I just think it's unrealistic to expect people to put thousands of hours of work into something and get it for nothing all the time.
jubeiiiii246
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Umm did you forget that games are sold? And gt has sold many games before?
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- Johnnypenso
No idea what you're saying. And not all games are sold, some are Free to Play.
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- Neomone
Because the point of discussion is not to be right. The point is to share ideas with other people. If their ideas are better than yours, then adopt them for your own.
Nobody is right all the time. Most people aren't even right most of the time. The best people are those who can quickly recognise when they're wrong and make appropriate changes.
What does that have to do with buying currency, which is what I was talking about?
More desirable models as DLC isn't a problem. In fact, I'd say that the developers aren't doing their job right if they're not holding back at least some marquee cars as DLC. That's just good sales practise.
And balancing isn't a DLC problem, that's a game problem. Having a few cars that are significantly better than the rest is a problem whether they're base content or DLC.
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- NewAesthetic
- SlipZtrEm
If your goal is only to post "right" things, you've come to the wrong place. This is a discussion board. People discuss.
You made an assumption with no proof (game with post-release DLC was intentionally released "incomplete") and were called on it. That's all. Basically, what @Imari said above. It was an error, but you've already recognized it. That's more than what most people manage.
*Fixed. Please re-read the AUP. Decent punctuation and grammar are expected here.
Yeah, I'm one of the people that hopes the DLC that comes to GTS has a price tag attached to it. Why? A few reasons:
- It's profitable for Polyphony.
- It's a higher visibility approach compared to a free update (as it shows up in the PS Store).
- It (ideally) encourages thoughtful curation. With free updates, PD can put in whatever cars they like, regardless of how the community might respond. With paid DLC packs, the appeal to the fans needs to be considered if there's hope of it being successful.
So?
A basic rule of sales: never give away something customers are willing to pay for.
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Probably some, others are not happy when games come out and there's already a ton of DLC out. Others are not happy with how it's priced comparatively to the price of the full game, then sometimes there's still regional variations in price which people see as unfair.
Others are not happy when the cost of the DLC ends up costing twice as much as the game.
Most I suspect just don't like feeling they are missing parts of the game that they feel they've paid enough for already, greed drives this just as it does for some of the companies who create the DLC because society seems to see greed as a good and acceptable quality these days.
DLC can be a good thing but every time it's handled badly, it only increases their stance against it's ever growing presence.
I would also suspect younger players are much more likely to embrace DLC than the older guys who remember gaming long before they days of DLC and feel like parts of the game they once got when they a bought a game are now sold as optional extras.
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Why does the total cost of DLC matter? Why does the total amount of DLC matter?
Regional pricing I grant you, but I'm constantly pissed off about that because I live in Australia and we get reamed both ways for prices. It's not a DLC thing, it's a buying any good or service thing. Standard price for a game off the shelf is $100 here, and while that sort of makes sense now it was exactly the same back when the AUD was at parity with the USD.
I think people for some reason can't get over the fact that you pay a certain price for a certain amount of product. You don't get pissed off at McDonalds for their hamburgers not being bigger. That's the size you get for the price you pay, even though they could absolutely slap a bit more on there if they wanted to.
Why is a game different? You get what you pay for with a base game. If the base game isn't worth what you're paying, don't buy it. If you do buy the base game, you may have the opportunity to buy extra things if you feel that they're worth the money.
I understand the emotional response that leads people to see DLC and go "Hey!". I don't understand how people can still be pissed off after they stop and think through it. It is literally the exact same thing that happens in every other industry, and yet nobody blinks twice.
Welcome to capitalism. It's been around for a while now. It seems to work OK for the most part.
Companies exist to make money. It's what they do. You might as well be annoyed at flies for swarming to cow dung.
I rather suspect you're wrong. Adults tend to not care that much about ten bucks as long as they're getting value, because realistically that's the difference between buying lunch at a cafe and bringing a sandwich from home for one day. I didn't blink twice dropping $25 on Witcher 3 DLC, because I know I'm getting value and that is not a particularly significant amount of money when I'm dropping $2000 a month in rent, food and utilities.
Ten bucks to someone without an actual income is potentially a pretty big deal. I'd say that most of the people who don't have an income yet can still afford to have a console gaming hobby are those who live with their parents.
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You said "I'm totally OK with paying for content" which I referenced with "With paying for content..."
Yes, it's good sales practice, but I wasn't really considering things from the developers' viewpoint.
The difference is that any imbalance is exaggerated by some cars being inaccessible to those not getting particular DLC.
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Yes, there are benefits to it, but in comparison you could say that about microtransactions too.
I was really talking in general terms not about GTS per se, though I imagine it's impossible to completely balance the cars for different circuits, conditions, or individual driving styles etc.
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I've read that thread and listened to the interview and I don't interpret it as GTS is GT7.
My thoughts, which could easily be wrong, are that GTS is a niche game with limited appeal and will be followed relatively quickly by GT7 which will contain the missing features such as career mode, car collecting via a full roster of cars etc which will be envisioned as a big selling game.
Polyphony Digital have always been painfully slow - I don't think they are fast enough to produce significant amounts of DLC and at the same time be building a stock of new cars for the next title. So my guess is that the GTS DLC will be dominated by Vision GT cars.
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The first thing Kaz says is "Actually for me this is in effect GT7".
I really can't understand how you can imagine they will quickly bring out the things you are talking about, do you think they are working on a second game at the same time? Don't hold your breathe, based on every interview I've seen there is no reason to think they will bring out another title anytime soon. As it is from what they have said I would expect them to be focusing on DLC. If the game sells poorly and DLC doesn't sell well then perhaps you could see them shift focus sooner but you still wouldn't expect the next title soon and if the game does that poorly you could just as easily see less money being put into the game in the future and reduce the quality of the series.
If GTS sell poorly they could decide to invest less money into the next title, perhaps that has already happened to GTS as a result of poor GT6 sales.
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I hate DLC. I am not sure I have bought any DLC for game. I rather prefer getting ultimate edition. I hope they make it free like GT6. They did with RB ring, VGT and some other car, tracks, track editor. Paid DLC literally means they have put on hold some content intentionally to get more $ 
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- Johnnypenso
No, that's not what it means.I hate DLC. I am not sure I have bought any DLC for game. I rather prefer getting ultimate edition. I hope they make it free like GT6. They did with RB ring, VGT and some other car, tracks, track editor. Paid DLC literally means they have put on hold some content intentionally to get more $
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I don't know why I'm thinking on a Gr.1 or Gr.3 LaFerrari or Veneno as a free DLC right now...
Edit: PD designing team, here's your Gr.3 or Gr.1 Veneno ♥
Edit: PD designing team, here's your Gr.3 or Gr.1 Veneno ♥
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Paid DLC literally means they have put on hold some content intentionally to get more $
Poor "literally", it's so often misused these days. Here's a great example.
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Well we still have 10 VGT's waiting on the list. (and a missing Honda?)
And I imagine the manufacturers will want all players to have easy access to them, as per before.
So it seems inevitable to me that we have those coming as free DLC at some point.
And that's assuming that all VGT's we already have in GT6 make it onto the launch disc.
I'm keen for them to reveal the final car and track lists to see what other DLC may potentially be coming.
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Remind there's still brands that want to re-make a VGT and others as well who want to enter to the program!
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