GT Sportmode become ridiculous
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Pff... I got disconnected from nations and manf cups yesterday. Don’t hear me whining about it. It’s a game. If it doesn’t work, go outside and do something constructive. This is just advice. I’m not “ranting” or “coming down on you for makin a thread that occurs on the forum every hour”.
Side note: I’ve complained several times here that the staff needs shut down all complaint threads UNLESS relevant to a game glitch. (They continue to allow it, so why don’t the rest of us join in and make it a real epidemic?)
The difference would be scenario 1) “I don’t like this game. People push me off the track.”
^lame. We here it every hour.
Scenario 2) “I was driving and suddenly my car flew off track with no traffic around me and I ended up in last place. I think it’s a glitch.”
^ #themoreyouknow
Side note: I’ve complained several times here that the staff needs shut down all complaint threads UNLESS relevant to a game glitch. (They continue to allow it, so why don’t the rest of us join in and make it a real epidemic?)
The difference would be scenario 1) “I don’t like this game. People push me off the track.”
^lame. We here it every hour.
Scenario 2) “I was driving and suddenly my car flew off track with no traffic around me and I ended up in last place. I think it’s a glitch.”
^ #themoreyouknow
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- sloppysmusic
I find it so ironic when people complaining about complaint threads do it in the actual threads they are complaining about. Therefore bumping the thread back up. Would be better to just ignore them so they drop off the bottom of page into obscurity.
Re-read the entire threat buddy.
Only making a threat if is glitch related ? Ahaha when you would be a Administrator or something similar you will fix the rules, since youre not... Have a nice game.
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The threads don't break the AUP so they stay, that's why the staff allow them to stay.
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I agree with you about the FIA championship structure being everyday but I also didn't like it once a week, I don't know what the solution is. Whatever happened to the Polyphony series?
If you drove iRacing before you know that disconnections are considered to be equal to when your race car breaks in real life. But I wasn't thinking about iRacing because what happened to you would have never happened on iRacing and iRacing has the best method of handling disconnections of any sim. I was actually mostly thinking of PCARS 2 which many have reported connection issues and worse because there is you complete a race your rating any goes up a couple of points but when you are disconnected it can drop by 50.
As for the BoP if you have been a member of iRacing then you also know they have not always got it right and at times have had OP cars for an entire season which is 1/4 of a year.
My comment wasn't really a reply to you, it was a reply was more to the guy who thinks we need 1500 threads like this to make a point.
The game isn't perfect, it needs fine tuning but it seems to me they are trying to get it right. And I actually think the issue you have raised with this thread is a serious bug so it would serve better if it was in the bug thread or if the thread title had said Serious Bug.
I have not been having matchmaking issues. My main point is that I do not think isolated issues mean Sport is terrible, I also don't think Sport is terrible when bad drivers report bad experiences and in most of the threads I am seeing saying sport is terrible it is either isolated incidents or it is someone who drives badly themselves. As for the matchmaking I find I mostly get matched with drivers just like me. Early on when people would push me around I went with it and pushed them back because it frustrated me they could use the system against me and I saw these people more frequently. Now that I decided to just let these occasional bad drivers go, get out of their way and avoid them, I see those guys much less often in my races. That show me a very advanced matchmaking system that actually works.
I could make a ridiculous claim too, I could just say take Japanese drivers out of this game and it would be much better because for me that would actually make the game better as for me in my region unfortunately the most dirty drivers and unsportsmanlike behaviour I have seen has come from Japanese drivers so if they just were not in the game it would be a much better game for me. BUT I understand these guys I have encountered are not representative of all Japanese drivers. What I have found surprisingly is the racing in the daily races is of a higher standard than the FIA races especially when it comes to cheating. I guess when there are points on the line there is more incentive to cheat and I found the same in iRacing as I encountered more cheating in high SOF races on iRacing than any other level on iRacing and I found it very common for people to selectively bump pass in iRacing to gain 1 or 2 positions in those high point races. By bump passing I mean the act of putting your brakes on just late enough to push the car in front off track without effecting the driver who brakes late, if you report these guys it is always ruled a racing incident but that should not be surprising because I provided video of a guy alongside me on a straight deliberately hard steering into me to ram me off the track and that was also ruled a racing incident.
Ridiculous claims are ridiculous. This thread could have been very useful if the wording was a bit different as I don't think it falls in with those other threads but you decided to throw it in with those by posting an isolated bug as an example of how Sport is ridiculous.
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No one said clone threads, and flooding is still against the AUP. I'm referring to different members starting different threads on similar topics. At the end of the day one thread will still attract the bulk of posts and become a core one without the staff needing to get involved, well unless people complaining about the thread keep bumping it.
However I do note that you didn't address the core point of my post, which is those that object to negative posts occurring in this manner never do the same about positive ones. Odd that.
Now as I have said, if you have an issue with this take it up with the site owner. As while this thread doesn't break the AUP, those complaining about its existence are getting close to doing so by a) posting off topic and b) ignoring staff saying it's not open for discussion.
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KingFrog
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What positive threads? Those are annoying too but it's usually a person explaining why he/she likes the game. All these negative threads are almost identical " I had a ****** race so this game sucks" . The thing is racing games, unlike most games, can have their online mode sabotaged by low skilled players or trolls. If one can't separate human error from poor game design, then that's sad. No game will lever eliminate this unless bad behavior gets you permabanned. Some people genuinely don't give a rat arse about having a D rating, and children/low skilled players/trolls will take others out . I don't suggest banning trolls either, they paid 60$ to play the game how they see fit. If some punk gets his joy from spinning other out, then that's his fault. Polyphony could design the best penalty system and issues would still occur. I find it idiotic to suggest that polyphony's system is to blame ( BOP is a different story), or that it could be significantly improved ( it can't, at least not without sophisticated AI ). We have threads dedicating to finding out whos at fault and even HUMANS debate the incidents. Even if races had a person watching and assigning penalties people would still be mad. At the end of the day its a dice roll, but from my experience playing online in 10+ racing games for well over a decade (from arcade to sim). GT sport has the cleanest racing behind... Motorstorm Apocalypse. Oddly that game had a betting system where you would bet points on who would win the race.
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Aaaaand, once again, a thread gets ruined by people who cry about cry threads and keep on crying...
Forums are meant to be this way, god-dammit!
If you have an issue with a product, you try to contact your support. Games don't really have that service (especially PD), so you go to forums and look if others have the same issue. Pretty normal to me. Share your feelings/problems with others, thats what a forum is for, right!?
And if you have issues with people complaining about certain things, just ignore them, or post something positive if you think there's too much complaining.
But complaining about complaining gets you nowhere. (Thats enough complaining for now
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I cant believe I have to type this again and again...
Forums are meant to be this way, god-dammit!
If you have an issue with a product, you try to contact your support. Games don't really have that service (especially PD), so you go to forums and look if others have the same issue. Pretty normal to me. Share your feelings/problems with others, thats what a forum is for, right!?
And if you have issues with people complaining about certain things, just ignore them, or post something positive if you think there's too much complaining.
But complaining about complaining gets you nowhere. (Thats enough complaining for now
)I cant believe I have to type this again and again...
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There was a major outage of Internet in UK, maybe that affected somehow your unlucky race. I know, you're in Austria, but still it could be affected by it as well if routing was through UK, or many drivers in that session were from UK.
I've never been disconnected, apart from faults in major Internet network.
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Aaaaand, once again, a thread gets ruined by people who cry about cry threads and keep on crying...
Forums are meant to be this way, god-dammit!
If you have an issue with a product, you try to contact your support. Games don't really have that service (especially PD), so you go to forums and look if others have the same issue. Pretty normal to me. Share your feelings/problems with others, thats what a forum is for, right!?
And if you have issues with people complaining about certain things, just ignore them, or post something positive if you think there's too much complaining.
But complaining about complaining gets you nowhere. (Thats enough complaining for now
I cant believe I have to type this again and again...
then copy paste it xD
Lots of negative comments recently, got to say I had my best online race yesterday. New SR logic seems better, I had a couple of lighter bumps that I would say we're accidental and racing incidents, no one last time and no punishment. I was forced of the track at one corner as wasn't left enough space, no penalties applied but i.did have to brake to avoid the guy driving into me, however in the past I would have got a time penalty and finally someone did ram me, got punished and then when overtook him a lap alter on the straight he purposely tried to ram me off the track, got ghosted and drove straight into the wall . All in all great race that wasn't ruined by other drivers, even when they did try.
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I think you are going in the wrong direction.
Let me explain: I have not a problem with the fact, that other are sometimes not driving fair.. blocking, pushing off track or even divebombing.
The problem I have right now is, how the game behave at the moment.
Somebody crashes in your rear with more then 30km/h difference and you get 10 sec penalty is more than a joke and i never expirienced something like that in other racing games.
Normally in my opinion something like that should get changed asap!
The „pain“ is not enough.. they implemented yellow flag, first if you look a good idea, bit the execute of that was terrible.
At the end that problem with the serverside connection, that in an official race a whole top grid gets disconnected after quali is out of the question.
And yes at the end that disconnect after the last race last season was enough for me in that case and iam normally the last person who complains about that.
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I also had a disconnect in one of the FIA races. I think it was the first test season. I spent a bunch of time practicing and managed to get pole position in qualifying for my race. While waiting for the race to start, disconnected.. 0 points awarded. I was furious. My connection didn't go down. Just the connection to GTS and it was only down for a few seconds. This was when I was in a lower DR, B or C I think, so it wouldn't have been that many points even if I won that race, but it was still very annoying. Now it seems I'm always racing with a few of the top guys, so at best I can hope to finish mid pack, if I don't get taken out on the first lap by someone who sees slowing down earlier for a corner, because there is a train of cars nose to tail, as an opportunity to move up, when there is nowhere to go. ugh. A bit off topic, but could everyone please stop trying to pass on the first few corners of a 10 lap race? Thanks
KingFrog
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In other racing games?
Race driver grid 1- autosport instant wreck DNF
Motorstorm 1-3 instant wreck 2-second respawn + the time required to get back up to speed.
Need for speed Takedown 3 second respawn
Project cars instant wreck DNF
Drive club, engine power limited to 25% for 5 seconds ( this is significantly worse than a 10 second penalty that you can burn off)
Forza.. Wel iv never played Forza since 4 but from what I have seen penalties are nonexistent so its GT 5/6 style
Everything above is significantly worse than a burnable 10-second penalty. Also its impossible to tell whos at fault since alot of people break WAAAYY to early and the suggested fix of analyzing the speed different eat a turn is flawed sicne it would require PD to test EVERY turn with EVERY car and see what the fastest possible entrance speed is . Honesty rather get a penalty than be punted into a sand trap, that's an instant K.O
