GT4:P PAL: Japanese. 276hp Club Test!

[Quattro]

Hi all,

I've made a little test with all the 276bhp japanese cars available in GT4 Prologue PAL. The test includes 11 cars... with a couple of peformance tests and overall review of the cars.

The times should be pretty accurate

but please don't ruin the thread by saying you drove a better, slower time.

Hope you like it!, if so I'll make another one for the other categories, Maybe the "eurofighters"

http://users.pandora.be/avantus/GTP Test.xls

(Excel file), DL or just click it

greetings,

Quattro

 

[AndreasN]

bah, i drove faster then you.

sorry, couldnt resist!. Gonna download this now, and look.
nice idea of you =)

 

[j8mie]

You have way too much spare time on your hands Quattro .....only joking. Nice little test you've done there. I was a touch suprised at the times for the lap time for the Mitsubishi Lancer EVO V "99, I would have thought that might have been a touch higher. Also, very impressive performance from the RX-7, I do love those cars.

Cheers

Jamie

 

[eddieturner2002]

Am i the only one the file doesnt work for?

 

[GT3Fan]

Excellent idea.

Just a suggesstion - How about times using different sets of tyres for the same car?
It'd be nice to see the difference in times using different tyres.

Cheers

 

[MoeZus]

link is down bro,

I'd love to see this.

 

[911_gt3_rs]

dead link

 

[Kaniyodrift]

yah nice work man!

too bad gtplanet owned ur filehost and i can't see it

 

[Quattro]

It should work... Doesn't error I think

 

[Soman]

Works here, buy why is the "COMMON DESIRABILITY FACTORS" valued so highly?

 

[Quattro]

It's what makes a car cool, special,... the factors that makes you wanna drive it.

You don't go into your garage and say, oeh now I want a car that accelerates "THAT" fast...
You drive a car for its particular handling, sound, looks etc...

 

[BMWz]

THe link still dont work!

 

[Quattro]

hmm should work you know...

 

[Hiroke]

Nice idea Quattro. I'm currently working on a website that will get published later this year. Im going to do regular tests with cars in GT4 and then write reviews and reports. Think of it as a online car magazine but using GT4 instead of real cars.

 

[Jim X]

I'm just throwing this out here, but aren't the cars that are "rated" at 276 hp, only falsly recorded because they are over the legal limit for horsies in Japan. So the cars could actually have very different horsepower. Just a thought.

 

[j8mie]

Originally posted by Jim X
I'm just throwing this out here, but aren't the cars that are "rated" at 276 hp, only falsly recorded because they are over the legal limit for horsies in Japan. So the cars could actually have very different horsepower. Just a thought.

Oh pants!

I have a feeling you could well be right. I know for a fact that the 3rd Gen Mazda RX-7 Type R pushes out 280bhp and not 276bhp, sure it's only 4bhp different, but that could well mean that the others are not shown correctly. If that is the case, then why have PD posted them wrong???

Cheers

Jamie

 

[eddieturner2002]

276bhp is the limit Japanese production cars come out of the factory as. Most people just snip the limiter cables and run their cars at there real power though. Thats why on GT3 the Japanese cars like the Supra's, Skyline's and LanEvo's and etc showed 276 in the showroom, but when you bought them, the mysterious driver must of snipped the cables because when you went back to your garage, it showed them at their real figures.

I hope you understood that because I think I was a bit all over the place there with that reply, but oh well.

 

[Jim X]

Originally posted by j8mie
Oh pants!

I have a feeling you could well be right. I know for a fact that the 3rd Gen Mazda RX-7 Type R pushes out 280bhp and not 276bhp, sure it's only 4bhp different, but that could well mean that the others are not shown correctly. If that is the case, then why have PD posted them wrong???

Cheers

Jamie

Actually, if the car is measured in metric horsepower then it will be 280 PS, but otherwise 276 HP, I believe. They are pretty close in measurment but that would account for the slight difference.

But yeah , I think Eddie is spot on. The cars having easily bypassed limiters are capable of MUCH more power and in Gran Turismo the limiters are nixed, freeing up that power.

 

[dan0h]

Originally posted by eddieturner2002
276bhp is the limit Japanese production cars come out of the factory as. Most people just snip the limiter cables and run their cars at there real power though.

Actually the 276 hp or 280PS limit is not a "law" in the accepted sense, rather like the european makers limiting cars to 155Mph, it is only a gentlemens agreement. I am not quite sure what you mean by a limiter cable - quite the funniest thing I have heard in ages lol

Japanese cars (and working on them all day blesses me with this information) are kept at "low" power by running lower boost pressures, for example, take a late model BCNR33 skyline, factory boost is around 0.7 bar which on a Dynapack chassis dyno (which is all I use and respect) gives the car just over 300 Bhp. The boost is controlled by a little bleed valve on the left hand side of the engine compartement, two hoses are attached to it, one of the hoses has a white paint line - this is where the boost restrictor is placed, drill this little sucker out to 3mm (+/- .5mm) and the car will run just on 1.0 bar (and believe me, with the factory turbos having ceramic compressor wheels you do NOT run any more than this without a titanium or steel rebuild on the turbos), delivering a much more intended 380bhp. I believe Hiroshi Tamura (if you know Skylines, you will know the name) himself admits that the Skyline was always truly intended to run nearer 400 bhp, but with the agreement, this wasnt really possible - hence why its so easy to find and drill the restrictor...

Hope this clears up any confusion about power, and dispels any myths about cars having limiter cables!

 

[eddieturner2002]

Originally posted by dan0h
I am not quite sure what you mean by a limiter cable - quite the funniest thing I have heard in ages lol

and dispels any myths about cars having limiter cables!

Well, I know that the Hayabusa bike has a speed limiter and if you snip the cable going to the limiter, it "unlimits" the bike, I was going by that. But thanks anyhow for enlightening me with all that info. 👍

 

[AndreasN]

the vmax 250km/h isnt any rule in europe either.. its also
just a thing between the carmanufactors..

but its been broken several times anyway.

mercedes clk-gtr roadversion for example.. vmax 320+
new audi rs6+ vmax=280

etc