I think you answered your own question, a way too heavy fly wheel will not only take days to wind up but also days to wind down, a gyro full of inertia or some sort
It's gonna take some smooth driving this week I reckon 👍
Well yeah, but you'd think the brakes would be able to overcome this excessive inertia. I took the car out in GT mode with various combinations of differences from this Arcade setup(just a flywheel, just a flywheel and a clutch, all power aside from boost, with all combinations at the min 335kg weight), and although it revs faster and accelerates faster, it still has this excessive inertia that just doesn't make REAL sense. In GT Mode I drove it with R4 tires as well, those made it act like it wasn't flying nearly as much. With the S3 tires as soon as the car takes off, or slides, all hope seems to be lost as it skates over the pavement. The car was much smoother with stickier tires, as if it had gained a good amount of power.
This is definitely a
very tricky week. Smooth driving, staying off of the curbs(for the most part), and learning where the bumps are on the track are going to be extremely important. Once you get some speed going the thing wants to fly off the track even easier, it's crazy I tell ya!
I hope to tame it. I'll give it a go again here before I go to sleep, even though it's past my bed time and I need to get up earlier than usual...
Nice point! I do not know about the engine characteristics of this thing but I see only two ways: 1- Heavy Flywheel, 2- ECU manipulation. I think this measure is definitely to curb loss of torque and power. How do you mean that a lighter flywheel will make it go faster on straightaway? I believe it'd help it accelerate quicker and become more responsive but I don't see a direct relation to top speed.
I wonder what Radical Engineers did with their car because it ain't like this despite having a motorcycle engine.
When you mentioned ECU manipulation I thought of something that I've heard manufacturers of new cars do. They'll make it so the revs drop slowly in between shifts and such, to reduce EMISSIONS. Now, if that's what the designers of GT4 were modeling after, I need to go kick them in the balls. I mean, seriously, haha, a Caterham with a big superbike motor in it? As if it would need to pass emissions testing...
Regarding the flywheel making it faster, I just meant with regards to acceleration, not top speed. You're correct there, I was just saying the flywheel helps when you're trying to get out of the corners and such, while trying to gain speed. The thing that's dumb here is it's excessively heavy(and controlled artificially/inaccurately) that it makes it really slow to regain traction once you break it. Start doing a burnout and you have to let off for a good while before the car will regain grip.
That is going to be a common theme this week, I fear. For people like me, it's not a question of getting the fastest lap possible, but of getting one that's clean and not too embarrassingly slow.
Ah, that sounds oh so familiar... Before many many many many many hours and laps of this track, I used to only get 1-3 clean laps a week, even after 3ish+ hours of driving. So, to all who complete a full clean lap, you have DEFINITELY accomplished something!
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Thank you for the info GTP. I ordered one just now, namely the "MAX DRIVE 128MB FOR PS2 US" version. Hopefully, I'll have it in my hands before the deadline. While searching the forum for info about max drive, I also found out that I have to run a qualifier race. I need this device for both so I may not be able to meet the deadline. Oh well,
crossing fingers
I ran 5-7 laps before bed, here is the new time:
2.1'54.033
Flying mate, welcome to the WRS! Make sure you spend a GOOD amount of time on your qualifier, about as much as you see yourself putting into a full week of racing, and then submit. 👍
EDIT: Down to 1'55.0, 3'32.0, 5'41.0, then dirtied it up later in the lap. The amount of luck that goes into this bugs me. That'll be it for tonight(YIKES it's late).
This might save some of you some time, for the first two sectors anyway... You can take the hill crest and high speed sweeping rights directly after T1 flat out, no need to slow down if you stay to the left where it crests(less bumpy there), and keep your pedal mashed all the way around the sweeping rights. If you time things right and don't hit a bump that may or may not be there, you can get around without issue. That's all for now folks!
The car does seem awfully bogged down below 60 mph in second when it doesn't shift, but as for whether to shift at 9500 or at the redline, I don't know.
Still, the whole thing had mistakes galore, but that should go without saying. T8 was 5:43.087, just for reference, but I can't update that one as I did not complete the lap cleanly. I'm afraid everyone will likely submit a lap this week they aren't totally satisfied with, because I don't think it's humanly possible to get a whole lap perfect in this car at the Nurb.
. I guess what makes this car so fun for me is the fact that you get great feedback from the steering wheel. Not every car in GT is like this. This wheel is the best so far to make up for those lost senses that one would have in real life.
