GT4 WRS Week 49 : "Swiss swinging"

[jmgyro]

if ur spinning backwards, then ur entering the corner too fast, i have done that many times. gear 3 is good cos it allows u to maintain a smooth speed through the hairpin

Well I've noticed you can't really enter this corner at a high speed in any gear because it overshoots the brakepoint so easily. So I try to get to 25-30 mph and it doesn't really spin out, it drifts but it just sounds like it has no power in 3rd gear and it just slows down completely. Are you entering it at maybe 30~ at the upper limit and is it full/half throttle or are you trying to get the best angle for it so it doesn't die off like I described.

 

[MisterWeary]

Well I suck at Rallying and I got these:

T1: 0'27.474 (0'26.700)
T2: 0'49.698 (0'48.600)
T3: 1'10.661 (1'09.000)
Fin: 1'2x.xx9 (-1.8 secs)

In brackets are my goals. This week is a truly excellent combo, it takes perseverence and patience to get a good lap. It requires different driving to any other week and no one (apart from holl01) is going to find it easy, come on folks...step up to the challenge!!!

 

[holl01]

Well I've noticed you can't really enter this corner at a high speed in any gear because it overshoots the brakepoint so easily. So I try to get to 25-30 mph and it doesn't really spin out, it drifts but it just sounds like it has no power in 3rd gear and it just slows down completely. Are you entering it at maybe 30~ at the upper limit and is it full/half throttle or are you trying to get the best angle for it so it doesn't die off like I described.

i initiall ease the car in, maybe tapping the brakes sometimes if i brke slightly too early, and i see 35 km/h on the speedo as i take it full throttle in low revs in 3rd. u cant take the corner in full throttle in 2nd, and thats the main reason why it is optimum to take it in that gear, so u can be full throttle:tup:

 

[ROB 256R]

I'm gonna have to pass on this race. Rallying in GT4 is not for me. Good luck to all who compete though.👍

 

[Tedehur]

Can I suggest having weight be adjustable too? Putting some more weight on can help the car to be more stable for those of us who are "dirt challenged" . It actually does a better job than lowering the power in some cases.

Adjustable weight is fine for me, I'll update post #1.
As for the difficulty, it is indeed a tough combo, but I suggest we see after 2 or 3 days if it's a matter of perseverance or if it's really way too tough, in which case I'll post week 50 in advance.

 

[holl01]

good idea flat-out, the combo was extremely dificult at first, and only after a good 2 hours of racing did i finally do some fast CLEAN laps. but besides from that, i enjoyed it!

 

[shockwaveracing]

good idea flat-out, the combo was extremely dificult at first, and only after a good 2 hours of racing did i finally do some fast CLEAN laps. but besides from that, i enjoyed it!

2 hours, sheesh that would mean i would have to do around 4 hours to get anywhere near those times and i was pretty ticked off after a dozen laps...

 

[Jake]

This race is tough! I am not even close to any of those times. It's embarrasing but even after 1 hour of racing these are my splits:

29.857
54.866
1'16.314



I'll keep racing it for the experience, and I will submit, though, even if I end up way back...

 

[Jump_Ace]

Tough? B'ah!! Nancy's! This is no harder than trying to do a 10 lap race WITHOUT touching the damned AI, its not so bad honest!

Jerome

 

[Tyre King]

Count me out too this week, Hate Rallying!

Tried a few laps and am so far behind that it's not even funny, or fun to try and improve.

Nevermind eh? JGTC qualifiers to run.

Neil

 

[Laurence5905]

Wow! This is going to either be very fun, or totally impossible!

I haven't won the d'Umbria Hard rally yet, so I've got to do that first to unlock the Lancia Delta S4...

Can't wait to try this combo out!!! I've never raced on the Swiss Alps, either, so it'll be a good learning experience for me!

But getting a clean lap on a rally track is NOT going to be easy. Got to get out of the habit of bouncing off the walls to stay on the track!

 

[evolution8]

Oh dear, not doing too well on this one so far!!

I'm finding it very difficult to get a clean lap with this combo. Love the car and the track but together its not easy. Even my dirty laps are no match for the splits posted on here, I'm too embarrased to post mine!

 

[steven]

As for the difficulty, it is indeed a tough combo, but I suggest we see after 2 or 3 days if is a matter of perseverance or if it's really way too tough, in which case I'll post week 50 in advance.

i say: advance, advance, advance (times a google times)
steven
(in case anybody doesn't know: a google is a 1 with 100 zeroes)

 

[Tedehur]

i say: advance, advance, advance (times a google times)
steven
(in case anybody doesn't know: a google is a 1 with 100 zeroes)

I'll be Mr. Smart-ass before Famine notices this :
The figure made of a 1 followed by 100 zeroes in called a googol.
10 raised to the googol power is called a googolplex (it would be written with a 1 followed by a googol zeroes, but there are not enough particles in the universe for that (about 10^80 particles)

...

Sorry

 

[steven]

I'll be Mr. Smart-ass before Famine notices this :
The figure made of a 1 followed by 100 zeroes in called a googol.
10 raised to the googol power is called a googolplex (it would be written with a 1 followed by a googol zeroes, but there are not enough particles in the universe for that (about 10^80 particles)

...

Sorry

ok mr. smartass, thanks for the expl.
are you some sort of math stu or what? i thought not since you do this thranslation in french thing.

 

[Tyre King]

I'll be Mr. Smart-ass before Famine notices this :
The figure made of a 1 followed by 100 zeroes in called a googol.
10 raised to the googol power is called a googolplex (it would be written with a 1 followed by a googol zeroes, but there are not enough particles in the universe for that (about 10^80 particles)

...

Sorry

Job done!

Though to out-Famine Famine, you would have to be retentive also! J/K Famine!

Neil

 

[Laurence5905]

Well, it took me awhile, but I FINALLY got a clean lap time...

Had one time that the whole lap was clean, but I just BARELY grazed the wall on that last turn just before the start/finish line so I had to toss it out... (Took it too fast and slid sideways... Rear end touched the wall so lightly that I didn't even know it 'till I looked at the replay... Didn't even show up on the G-meter... Of course it's hard to read the G-meter when the car is bouncing around so much...)

This lap is about .4 seconds slower overall than the one I had to toss out, but the T-times are a bit faster, believe it or not... (I think I got a little nervous at the very end -- didn't want to repeat my mistake -- so I slowed down too much...)

Here are the splits:
T1: 29.605
T2: 53.751
T3: 1'15.682

Just to clarify -- there is no "off track" on this course, right? Everything between the "walls" is legal, right? So the only way a lap can be dirty is to bump a wall, right? In real life, everything between the fences is legal in a rally race, so I figured that would be the same here -- so PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong with this assumption...

 

[Laurence5905]

these comments about not enjoying it are only due to lack of skill at rallying/and/or lack of persistance, not because the combo sucks, i think the combo is great once u learn the cars handling. at first i was crap at it, but each lap i got more and more used to the car, untill it became easyish in the end.

Agreed! This is a tough combo, but a very fair one, and lots of FUN! I just LOVE flying through the air like that!

 

[Tedehur]

ok mr. smartass, thanks for the expl.
are you some sort of math stu or what? i thought not since you do this thranslation in french thing.

May I redirect you there ?
I must admit that most of my friends consider me as a french version of Famine. That is, they would if they knew who Famine is. Since they don't know Famine, they just call me an alien.
And the only things that prevent you all from having a second Famine here are :

• my limited knowledge of english
• the fact that I work and have a family life and can't spend several hours on GTP every day

Lucky guys.

 

[Tyre King]

In reply to Holl's comment about some of us not having enough rallying skills/ability/persistance...and that's why we think the combo sucks.

I must say that one the one hand I agree!

I do not have enough of the required skills or the ability to rally in GT4. And I freely admit that!
Hence why I have stated that I will not be partaking this week.

But, on the other hand....
This is a series where we can pick and choose whether to race a combo or not, depending on, if we like the combo or not, have the skills and or abilities to be competetive or not, OR, just plain don't want to race that particular combo.

Just because you DO have the nesc skills/abilities/persistance to race ANY combo, does not mean that everyone does.
We all know that you are the mutt's where racing GT4 is concerned, but that does not give you the right or privilege to decry anyone for not wanting to race, for whatever reason.
And anyway, not one person has said that the combo sucks! One said 'he' sucked at it, another stated the in his opinion the car was too powerful, most just say they are gonna sit it out (like me) but no-one states that the combo sucks

Must be nice to be so superior, and have such low opinions of your fellow racers.

Neil

 

[Thotozam AZ-1]

I also might be out, I tried 2 laps after I submitted my times for week48 yesterday, and they were awful (1.3x.xxx). Very difficult indeed.
Plus, drifting experience isn't really helping at the moment, this thing drifts, well, oddly compared to drifting imports on tarmac.

I might be out because of defensive driving on the weekend and GTPDC8, sorry

 

[fasj6418]

i´m looking foward to this, but with JGTC testing and qualify, plus DTM, it will be a limited time behind the lancia... but looks like a great car... and the track is wide... could be harder if we were running at grand canyon or ice arena...

 

[MisterWeary]

I started the leaderboard but I gotta go to work...I'll finish it off during the day 👍

 

[ferrari_chris]

... As for the difficulty, it is indeed a tough combo, but I suggest we see after 2 or 3 days if it's a matter of perseverance or if it's really way too tough, in which case I'll post week 50 in advance.

I wouldn't post up Week 50 too quickly. I was looking forward to the time off to finish a couple of other things I've been working on.

But, on the other hand, I may just dip my toe into the water on this one too...

 

[evolution8]

Ok, had about half an hour's practice on this, here's the best I can muster so far:

T1 - 27.518
T2 - 49.631
T3 - 1,09.833

Still a long way to go tho!

 

[bbq0801]

I dunno about this, I might actually try different power levels. It might be a good thing- at least then there might be some traction in gears lower than 4th.

20 laps in

T1 - 26.911
T2 - 49.587
T3 - 1'09.340

 

[Thirdeye]

At first I hated the combo, but an hour or so later, im really starting to like it I'll post my T's in a bit, they're not the best, but for my lack of rally experience, I'd say they're pretty good.

 

[Tedehur]

At first I hated the combo, but an hour or so later, im really starting to like it I'll post my T's in a bit, they're not the best, but for my lack of rally experience, I'd say they're pretty good.

That kind of post is one of the best pleasures for the race steward 👍

 

[Thirdeye]

T1: 27.505
T2: 50.307 I know I lost a lot of time between T1-T2.
T3: 1'10.362

 

[holl01]

In reply to Holl's comment about some of us not having enough rallying skills/ability/persistance...and that's why we think the combo sucks.

I must say that one the one hand I agree!

I do not have enough of the required skills or the ability to rally in GT4. And I freely admit that!
Hence why I have stated that I will not be partaking this week.

But, on the other hand....
This is a series where we can pick and choose whether to race a combo or not, depending on, if we like the combo or not, have the skills and or abilities to be competetive or not, OR, just plain don't want to race that particular combo.

Just because you DO have the nesc skills/abilities/persistance to race ANY combo, does not mean that everyone does.
We all know that you are the mutt's where racing GT4 is concerned, but that does not give you the right or privilege to decry anyone for not wanting to race, for whatever reason.
And anyway, not one person has said that the combo sucks! One said 'he' sucked at it, another stated the in his opinion the car was too powerful, most just say they are gonna sit it out (like me) but no-one states that the combo sucks

Must be nice to be so superior, and have such low opinions of your fellow racers.

Neil

I only posted the message to explain why some people hated it/and or were sitting out on this one. I never intended to belittle anyone. This combo is extremely difficult, thats what this boils down to