GT5 going for the worst???

[The Vanishing Boy]

-> WRC and NASCAR won't make any difference to GT or whatsoever. I think that these two are just part of the Simulation/Career modes on top of GT's iceberg. Who knows, in TGS PD might add more race series like V8 Supercars; WTCC; DTM; LeMans; etc.

 

[L_Hamilton]

-> WRC and NASCAR won't make any difference to GT or whatsoever. I think that these two are just part of the Simulation/Career modes on top of GT's iceberg. Who knows, in TGS PD might add more race series like V8 Supercars; WTCC; DTM; LeMans; etc.

 

[Famine]

I vote for thread shutdown.

I vote for a thread shutdown.....

I agree with that, needs locking.

And I vote that the best way to deal with that is to click the "Report to Moderators" button and not prolong a thread you think is useless by posting in it.

While the concept of the thread may well be idiotic, it isn't useless. Two of the three posts quoted above on the other hand are useless.

 

[RAVELLRON]

Enough with the stupid threads

How does WRC and NASCAR possibly mean there will be no tuning options

👍

 

[Zimmerd]

GT5 is only getting bigger and bigger (more and more race types),
why wouldn't you like that? So the evolution is good anyway,
but there is always room for improvement or another choice of race types.
But I'll be extremely happy with what i get!

 

[magburner]

If you have seen the GT5 trailer, you see that WRC and NASCAR are finally here. But with all these racing series, it makes me think that GT5 is turning into a racing simulator. What is happening to the old days? Where you could do the crazy? Putting a stage 4 turbo on a mini cooper and beating skylines? Hardcore tuning to make a road car race car comparable? Tuning your Evolution road car to make it competitive with the Evolution rally car? What's going to happen? If GT5 becomes a racing sim then there is no more reason for road cars. What do you think?

I more or less agree with you on this one. I've always preferred tuning road cars as opposed to driving out-and-out racing cars. I'd either take a stock car and add sports parts to make it a little fruity, then enter the races. Or, create a 200-400BHP/~1000kg street car to enter the tougher races.

I still do it on GT5, but its boring. Everyone else seems to think that you have to drive the fastest cars, you do in some cases, but there is just as much fun to be had driving the slower ones. my current car is a 300bhp Mini Cooper, and its a little zipper, but in a race of 15 assorted cheese cars, its a non starter.

I don't mind PD including race cars, just as long as they also provide races for those of us that keep to the original premise of the game - to drive (and tune) ordinary road cars. I'd love to see some saloon/hatchback type championship races. 👍

 

[Peter]

You guys really are going the wrong way with this. I really meant all the racing series that are now in GT gives me a feeling that the whole concept of buying parts to get an advantage or hardcore tuning might be just useless or senseless. Everytime i think about GT5, to be honest, all I can see is GRID with much better graphics and physics.

 

[TheCracker]

You guys really are going the wrong way with this. I really meant all the racing series that are now in GT gives me a feeling that the whole concept of buying parts to get an advantage or hardcore tuning might be just useless or senseless. Everytime i think about GT5, to be honest, all I can see is GRID with much better graphics and physics.

Normal road cars and tuning them is the core element of the whole Gran Turismo experience, and that will never change. However, PD aims to make Gran Turismo a playable automotive encyclopedia and that means motorsport too. We are always going to see an increase in the variety of dedicated racing cars in the game, GT is a racing game at the end of the day and most of the action takes place on a track doesn't it? But at the same time PD is adding more and more road car manufacturers with each new game, so i really don't think the overall balance of the game will ever swing too far towards being a 'racing sim'.

 

[killanite]

You guys really are going the wrong way with this. I really meant all the racing series that are now in GT gives me a feeling that the whole concept of buying parts to get an advantage or hardcore tuning might be just useless or senseless. Everytime i think about GT5, to be honest, all I can see is GRID with much better graphics and physics.

well if we were to somehow assume... lets say GT5 was a demo of sorts... to GT5 (pretty safe bet, no?)... do u see many racecars dominating it?.. im pretty sure road cars and tuned road cars are the predominant cars present in GT5. so how can you assume that GT5 has suddenly become GRID by watching a 90 second trailer rather than following the trend of the demo?

 

[RacingFreak2k3]

Woooops, I meant to vote for yes....there a way to change that?? hahaha.

If not, no big deal.

 

[CCX]

Enough with the stupid threads

How does WRC and NASCAR possibly mean there will be no tuning options

I agree:tup:

 

[magburner]

well if we were to somehow assume... lets say GT5 was a demo of sorts... to GT5 (pretty safe bet, no?)... do u see many racecars dominating it?.. im pretty sure road cars and tuned road cars are the predominant cars present in GT5. so how can you assume that GT5 has suddenly become GRID by watching a 90 second trailer rather than following the trend of the demo?

I think you have it the wrong way around. The video shown is more current than the GT5 'demo', so I would go with the video rather than GT5.

Also, apart form the Citroen and Alfa at the very start of the video, there were no other references at all to standard production cars. Infact the vast majority of cars in the video had some form of racing livery, and of those that didn't have a livery, the majority were performance or 'tuned' cars.

Watching the video, you could (wrongly) assume that Gran Turismo was making a dramatic shift towards being a racing sim. It might not be true, and I hope it certainly isn't, but we wil just have to wait and see!

 

[cudadude2]

And who dosnt want to know what Jeff gordon Chevy will do around the ring? not to mention the damage that will be done to it by flying Loembrau cans!

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[RAVELLRON]

And who dosnt want to know what Jeff gordon Chevy will do around the ring? not to mention the damage that will be done to it by flying Loembrau cans!

b

muahahahahahahahahaah

jeff the drank....


just to remain in topic, gt5 will be the same gt like history gave us times ago...

 

[Jay]

And who dosnt want to know what Jeff gordon Chevy will do around the ring?

I fully intend to find out

 

[regoon]

Like others have said, GT is practically growing forward and not backwards. The inclusion of more race cars is always good. I would actually prefer more race cars over cars that are from the early 1900s, tbh.

 

[SUPER NUMBBER]

I do think the GT series is losing it's focus, which I believe is Grand Tour racing. As big of a fan of rally racing as I am, I think PD should make a separate rally game.

And don't even get me started on the inclusion of nascar....

 

[Tenacious D]

I'd rather not buy five or six different games from Polyphony, unless they all have full blown career implementations. I mean, I would, but look at what you're talking about:

• Gran Turismo Tuning Car Racing, $60
• Gran Turismo Touring Car Racing, $60
• Gran Turismo ALMS Racing, $60
• Gran Turismo Super GT Racing, $60
• Gran Turismo DTM Racing, $60
• Gran Turismo V8 Supercar Racing, $60
• Gran Turismo NASCAR Racing, $60
• Gran Turismo Formula 1 Racing, $60
• Gran Turismo World Rally Racing, $60

Does this appeal to you??

 

[Raybrig100]

$60 US dollars = £37.50 GBP, as a stand along game, aint too steep, but i would end up not trying some of the forms of racing im not keen on. But if a small portion of it ended up in GT5 then i would give it a go. But no way would i justify to my self, or my wife , buying all the versions listed!

 

[H3avyM3tal]

Here there is an interview with Forza Motorsport 3 game director Dan Greenwalt.

"I'm in this industry because of Gran Turismo, let's just be frank,"

"So, props to Kazunori Yamauchi-san and the PS1 team," said Greenwalt. "That said," he continued, "I feel that he's passed us the baton. Perhaps he hasn't meant to, but we have taken the genre to new levels and they've stopped evolving the genre. So again, tremendous respect to him, but I'd say the differentiator is they're old school." He conclued, "The emperor's naked, and I don't want to, you know, I don't want to slap him around, but no game competes [with] us right now."

While I do think that F3 will be an amazing racing game, I don't like this kind of attitude.

 

[Zimmerd]

That's a lame attitude.
Kaz' attitude is way more professional ...

 

[Earth]

Here there is an interview with Forza Motorsport 3 game director Dan Greenwalt.

"So, props to Kazunori Yamauchi-san and the PS1 team," said Greenwalt. "That said," he continued, "I feel that he's passed us the baton. Perhaps he hasn't meant to, but we have taken the genre to new levels and they've stopped evolving the genre. So again, tremendous respect to him, but I'd say the differentiator is they're old school." He conclued, "The emperor's naked, and I don't want to, you know, I don't want to slap him around, but no game competes [with] us right now."

While I do think that F3 will be an amazing racing game, I don't like this kind of attitude.

He did not just say that. I hope GT 5 crushes Forza 3

It would be so funny if GT5 launched with 401 cars and 51 manufacturers

👎

btw, NASCAR and F1 and WRC alone = GT5 > Forza 3

 

[Crimson]

Just because there are race cars in the trailer doesn't mean that it will be a racing sim with no road cars or tuning options.

For example;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VweaklNQDvQ

I seem to remember there being quite a few road cars in this game, but there are loads of race cars in the intro video.

 

[DJW_GT]

Here there is an interview with Forza Motorsport 3 game director Dan Greenwalt.

"I'm in this industry because of Gran Turismo, let's just be frank,"

"So, props to Kazunori Yamauchi-san and the PS1 team," said Greenwalt. "That said," he continued, "I feel that he's passed us the baton. Perhaps he hasn't meant to, but we have taken the genre to new levels and they've stopped evolving the genre. So again, tremendous respect to him, but I'd say the differentiator is they're old school." He conclued, "The emperor's naked, and I don't want to, you know, I don't want to slap him around, but no game competes [with] us right now."

While I do think that F3 will be an amazing racing game, I don't like this kind of attitude.

Agreed, how can he possibly say that? If GT5 was the underdog then he might have the right so say that, but seeming as Forza 3 is the underdog here, I think Greenwalt deserves to shut his trap and stop with his sarcastic, undermining attitude towards Gran Turismo

 

[Angerdx]

That remark lost turn10 and MS a sale, when i read that this morning i almost spit out my cofee all over my screen, Dan my man you ain´t exactly doing FM3 any favors atm!

Good now i got no reason to fork out for a 360 either heh

 

[DJW_GT]

Same here... You never see Polyphony bragging about how much better their game is than Forza, they let their game do the talking rather than bold and untrue claims.

I really do try not to be biased when talking about GT5 and Forza, but when Forza are coming out with **** like that, it's hard not to.

 

[-ultraflow-]

Just because there are race cars in the trailer doesn't mean that it will be a racing sim with no road cars or tuning options.

I agree, if the previous GT's always have tuning options, its will be very strange if GT5 did not have it.


GT5 is not only a race car game and focusing more on road cars.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

I honestly don't know until I can play the game, but its hard to imagine being dissatisfied with it at this point.

 

[sher_da_putt]

tuning is one of the funnest things in GT5, and there hasn't been a GT without it, except for prologue, but that's just because it a prologue.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I fail to see how including more game modes makes GT5 worse. Events like the WRC and NASCAR are probably going to take the form of extended championships, like the Formula GT series in in GT4.