GT5 slow on PS3 Super Slim?

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You should get the normal slim, just like I did.

I gave up the idea of paying a lot of money to get my FAT repaired since it would fix it only for a few months. The YLOD would be back again.

Youtube unboxing and reviews

If you bothered to read what I posted in post #14, I did just that. However, like I previously stated, none of the reviews I seen were negative regarding performance. They were all towards the design aspect, which I can understand. From what I've read and experienced so far, there was no performance upgrades or downgrades from the normal slim. The only things that changed was the design, performance is the same as the slim.
 
Does anyone have experience installing GT 5 to new super slim model with 12 GB flash drive. With flash install, are loading times faster than normal HDD?

With the flash drive, the loading times will be faster than a regular HDD. But I'm afraid GT5 will be the only game you'd be playing as the game data is quite hefty if I remember correct.
 
If you bothered to read what I posted in post #14, I did just that. However, like I previously stated, none of the reviews I seen were negative regarding performance. They were all towards the design aspect, which I can understand. From what I've read and experienced so far, there was no performance upgrades or downgrades from the normal slim. The only things that changed was the design, performance is the same as the slim.

I tend to find those negative reviews of the PS3 slim due to design to be pointless.

People don't buy PS3 to stare at them do they?
 
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I tend to find those negative reviews of the PS3 slim due to design to be pointless.

People don't buy PS3 to stare at them do they?

Well when the slim came out... I looked at it and was disappointed. Looked as if a person just took 10 mins into designing it and said here you go.

I love my fat it is about to have its 6th birthday and I am happy. I am keeping it as long as I can. I have no doubts about it lasting many more years because i am very careful and anal about it (anal meaning I clean it often). Even my mom when their original 60gb died last year(they kept it in a in closed TV stand which in the end caused it to die) she bought a slim i was on the phone while they were opening the box. When they looked at it they said I quote "looks like a cheap piece of ****". Which it honestly does. I told them they should have token better care of the fat hahha.

But me yeah looks do play apart in what I look at.
 
I tend to find those negative reviews of the PS3 slim due to design to be pointless.

People don't buy PS3 to stare at them do they?

I never said they did so just relax. I was only giving the information that I found. Also, there is more to design than just cosmetic. The door to the CD/DVD bay for example, which I agree that it is flimsy and of poor design.
 
If you bothered to read what I posted in post #14, I did just that. However, like I previously stated, none of the reviews I seen were negative regarding performance. They were all towards the design aspect, which I can understand. From what I've read and experienced so far, there was no performance upgrades or downgrades from the normal slim. The only things that changed was the design, performance is the same as the slim.
I didn't say I read negative things about performances, other than what the OP wrote.
 
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Nielsen, consider taking your new super slim PS3 console back and getting another one. By reading all the posts here, it sounds like you just got a bad unit. The retailer should be happy to help, and you won't be out anything except for some more data install time. With the possible exception of the generally bad appearance/design of the super slim, you should see improvements across the board compared to the slim you had last.
 
Just a thought would it be possible to install a solid state hard drive into the ps3 ?
 
Just a thought would it be possible to install a solid state hard drive into the ps3 ?

Not sure about that but that does remind me of two new features (design) that I like about the new super slim. The hard drive is easily reachable from the side panel now and the lens are also easy to get to now via that flimsy ass door, lol. No more taking the whole PS3 apart if you need to clean the lens which I do regularly.
 
I have a spare ssd will have to look into fitting it to the ps3.

It make's such an drastic change to the speeds of my pc games load almost instantly.
 
I have a spare ssd will have to look into fitting it to the ps3.

It make's such an drastic change to the speeds of my pc games load almost instantly.

When I go to get my old one repaired, I may look into having it upgraded with a better hard drive. Anyone have any suggestions on agood hard drive for the normal PS3 slim. Also, how about the blu-ray lens or are all the replacements pretty much the same as far as quality goes. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks for your advice guys. I won't be able to look further into these issues until January. Now I do at least know that the problem isn't common.
 
I used to play GT5 on a PS3 Slim 320 GB model but it died so I recently bought a PS3 Super Slim 500 GB. The thing is that I have had nothing but problems with GT5 on this new system. Loading times are at least 3 times slower on my new Super Slim and everything but the actual gameplay seems to lag. I have performed a system restore but nothing seems to help. Anyone else having similar issues with GT5 on the Super Slim?

I ran into the same thing, I noticed my super slim seemed very slow when I got it. So I did a bunch of testing, comparing it to a regular slim. The short answer is, I changed the hard drive to one of these and it ran much faster than a slim with its standard drive it came with from sony, and in fact ran just as fast as a slim with an SSD. This is the drive I used (7200 Rpm):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136278

For all my super slim vs slim testing, for both systems I had:
Same game game save (large 4mB save)
Both off line
Both on same 4.31 FM and 2.09 version of GT5
Both running original GT5 disk
Both had all game data pre-installed (so 9+ GB GT5 game data on Hard disk)
Both hard disks/PS3s had no other games installed

Things I compared between the 2 systems side by side were game startup time, std car garage load (800+ cars), and nurb track load time. With the super slim using its original 250mb drive, or a 60gig seagate from a FAT PS3, or a 160 gig toshiba from a slim PS3 (all original sony drives) the super slim was always quite a bit slower than a standard slim. Game start up was always something like ~15 seconds slower. At one point I even swapped the drives between the slim and super slim and it seemed to make no change, super slim still much slower.

The thing that made a huge change was changing the slim to the above listed western digital 7200RPM drive, it must have a much faster seek time since GT5 tends to use many many small files and seek time becomes very important. Maybe the 16mb cache is helpful here also. With this 7200rpm drive it then became much faster than the slim, and in fact it ran as fast as another slim I have that has an SSD. The 2 machines literally seemed to do everything identically, I was not expecting that at all. For the final test, I put an SSD in the super slim and it still seemed identical to my slim with an SSD.

So moral of the story, super slim running one of the typical PS3 5400rpm drives is slower than a slim on the same drive, not sure why when it seems to match a slim when both are on a faster drive. This would not be the case if it was a difference in blu-ray reading speed or something.
 
I noticed that sony fitted slower bluray drive on normal slim vs fat launch system. Difference is small but it is there. It is sad to hear that drive on latest model is even slower.
 
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Those looking in swap to an SSD might be disappointed if you're expecting the speed increases akin to what you see on PC titles. It's been tested quite a bit on GTP, and even in GT5 where most of the data is installed you're not going to see huge decreases in load times because the Blu Ray laser tends to be the limiting factor. Not going to be much (if any) faster than if you use a 7200RPM, though it will be notably quicker than the cheapo OEM hard drives (especially if the Super Slim drives are even worse than the default drives in older systems, as z06fun's testing seems to suggest).
 
z06fun nailed it, I was having the same issue with the ultra slim, swapped out the hdd for the one that was in my old fat that died and viola almost as fast as the old original 60 gig ps3. I also cleaned the disc and the blu-ray optics to be through....but yeah back up to speed. I'm pretty effin pissed that I even have to OWN an ultra slim....much less replace Sonys crap components right out of the box, my original went ylod about 4 times and I got sick of fixing it. Oh well back racing ...all good :)
 
That makes no sense whatsoever. "Lowered the amount of the processors"? There is only one....
He's probably talking about the number of SPU's, but the answer is always the same: No!


EDIT: Oh god, it's an old thead... I didn't see.
 
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I would like to add something, some games like COD boII and gt5 are slow to begin with.

In the case of gt5, it's gotten slower for some reason. I think it has something to do with either sony or pd, not the ps3 system in itself.

Lets not forget the programming in gt5 and boII is ass to begin with. Both games have a ridiculous amount of loading time and loading in general. Simply unacceptable if you ask me.
 
I would like to add something, some games like COD boII and gt5 are slow to begin with.

In the case of gt5, it's gotten slower for some reason. I think it has something to do with either sony or pd, not the ps3 system in itself.
GT5 is actually a hundred times faster than at the beginning.

Get the original GT5 game (not the academy, xl or whatever) and then reinstall the gamedata without any patches - sloooooooooow.
 
Why can't it? There are smart phones and tablets out there now that can give the PS3 a run for its money in graphics.



It's the same processor, same RAM, same GPU, same everything. They are just using a more efficient production process, so they run cooler, so Sony can bunch everything closer together and make the case smaller.
 
NO it is smaller and because of that it is weaker. It cant be same power but smaller.

Very wrong. It's called progress. Tech gets smaller and consumes less power all the time.

All PS3's that are working correctly will perform the same as each other no matter if they are big, small or anything else.
 
NO it is smaller and because of that it is weaker. It cant be same power but smaller.

Of course it can.

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GT5 is actually a hundred times faster than at the beginning.

Get the original GT5 game (not the academy, xl or whatever) and then reinstall the gamedata without any patches - sloooooooooow.

Who in there right mind would play GT5 from version 1? HDD speed makes a difference too. My Fat 500gb had a 7200rpm, it was fast as snot on a cold winters day. But it also had read errors 70% of the time while booting. I have a White Super Slim PS3 and it doesn't seem any slower. The only slow thing that is an annoyance is populating a grid in Seasonals.
 
Me and my girlfriend have run into numerous amounts of problems with her new 500gb super slim. It always seems to "hiccup" or "skip" whenever it goes into pushing the games limits when playing assassins creed 2, brotherhood and revelations. (ie multiple character movements during fight scenes or cutscenes). It also didnt load the character voices on lots of missions on hitman absolution. The part where you try to get your silverballers back from the hot shot daughter during the shooting contest, neither the dad or her made any voice communication what so ever during their introductory cutscenes. I also happened to notice when I play GT5, the photomode location times were noticably slower on her superslim as apposed to my regular slim. (Same gt5 disc & patch). Even some problems from the past are exposed horridly. Remember that glitch when racing on Nurburgring 24hr and the track didnt always load sometimes when racing in the morning? So it just looked like you were just racing on air? Yea, that problem is occuring not only a lot, but also being visably worse.

Seeing these problems are really making me second guess on buying a new ps3 superslim. My old 150gb's blue ray died last christmas and I've been pondering on either upgrading, or just getting a brand new one all together. The thought that the ps4 being released holiday 2013 is also hindering on my mind so maybe upgrading isn't worth it after all.
 
It honestly seems, based on some of the experiences on GTP, that the Super Slim has a really awful hard drive in it in terms of read speeds. You can still get a Super Slim, but you might have to replace the hard drive anyway to get good performance out of installed games.
 
I have a slim 250Gb and GT5 had been getting slower and slower, My menus and loading screens were getting stupidly slow, every time i was looking to see what friends were online it would take an eon, reformatted the whole system and re installed GT5 and it now runs like new again
 
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